Originally Posted by SCfigFanatic
Alan from the beginning never did anything but badmouth everything I said.
He could not compete, not with rooting or anything else.
He was always the jealous one. That is why he stated rubbing it in his face.
We never chatted or anything.
You are just bringing alans drama back to the forum.
Please mind yer own, it has nothing to do with you
Drop the drama huh kkk?

Originally Posted by SCfigFanatic
I hate drama but

"They simply don't realise how their actions upsets other people who cares or thinks highly of them as a good friend."
if that person only badmouths you, was he your friend to start with?

Doug

Originally Posted by haslamhulme
Very sad to hear Reads is gone,but when it's personal reasons enough said,it's a pity I wasn't interested in figs earlier of they would have picked up some business from me.Did he mention what was going to happen to the collection? I know they didn't make much of having the 'national collection' status but who is there now to take up that baton?

Originally Posted by Vladis
Vinny, why Russia and not England?

Originally Posted by pofigist

. I will order from this sellers to get verification of addresses and names. And will not only report them to USDA but send all purchased cuttings as an evidence and printouts of eBay listings with names of cuttings and description of figs.  “Rare variety from Spain”, let’s say- and it will be up to seller to explain how they got a variety from Spain without legal papers.

Originally Posted by ThaiFig
For the more expensive varieties , I've bought cuttings or air layers and learned to propagate them myself, then sold those new cuttings and airlayers to recoup my investment. So really they've cost me nothing but my time and a bit of fertilizer. I've done this while you've been patiently waiting on James and looking at his pretty pictures.

Originally Posted by Dave
Rayvino I'm selling the  BB10 cuttings and some others for a friend "Hershell" Hershell got his plant from WillisC on Ourfigs if you know Hershell who is a member of both forums builds greenhouses for a living and travels all over working and doesn't have time to sell his cuttings so I am helping him out this year 

Originally Posted by tsparozi
If historical posts are to be believed, there is only one original source for the BB10 which is an unknown but considered high quality cultivar and that is Dan. Dan had discovered the plant which was likely either a sport / mutation of a known or unknown variety or the result of natural pollination / cross between two naturally occurring figs in the discovery area. Regardless, the BB10, as it was named, was, according to his own assessment, above and beyond in terms of quality. How the BB10 came out of Dan's private holding and into wider distribution is unknown but once the genie was out of the bottle several more folks acquired it. One of those second line folks then made it available to others and became the common source for the plants and cuttings now finally being made available to other enthusiasts on ebay. The current offerings on ebay are by Wills from OurFigs and by Dave who is a member here and on OurFigs. Both are highly respected and trustworthy sources of figs and there are not many that would dispute the authenticity of the figs that they are providing on ebay. There are a few others that also have the BB10, including "pukzpukz" who is a member of both fig forums as well as on Rafed's FB and who recently posted that he will be doing a benefit auction for a BB10 plant from his own inventory in late winter as well as making cuttings available some time after that. I believe that Pukzpukz also posted that his source for the BB10 was the same as the others. Pukzpukz also frequently sells figs and other plants on ebay and is very involved in the LSU fig research and development program; I believe that all of the LSU varieties, either formally released or still under review are his specialty. In any case, those are the three sources of BB10 that I am aware of; I am one of the actively engaged and interested bidders on ebay for this variety as I have no qualms about the authenticity of the cultivar and consider the sellers to be of the highest order and trust worthiness. There are F4F members who sell varieties on ebay, including BM, whose names are synonymous with value, integrity, quality and generosity; we all know who they are and we look forward to their auctions and bid on their inventory without concern, I personally have bought quite a bit from them myself, these BB10 sellers are on the same order as far as I am concerned.

Originally Posted by dkirtexas
It is Wills from "the other forum"
It is rare
It is closely held
It is a great fig says good friend who has one

Do a Google search on "Black Beauty Fig"  Loads of info

Originally Posted by Jamie0507
Hi Vinny :) the Wills selling BB10 is indeed WillsC from ourfigs.. They are surely the real deal as well. The reason he refers to them as" tightly held" is bc of the way this variety was literally held onto so tightly by Dan from Louisiana. Hope that helps some :)

Originally Posted by jrdewhirst


"Tightly held" is a finance term, used to refer to a company whose shares are mostly owned by a small group (e.g., family) and not generally offered for sale.  It seems odd and suspicious that the seller would use the term.  It suggests that he / she has a toe in the financial industry, maybe on the shady periphery (e.g., touting penny stocks).  Anyway, the whole pitch is very hyped and therefore suspicious.  "Very rare" my a**.

Originally Posted by LeanderFig
Here is the person who says they "discovered" this fig. It appears to be just an unknown.

http://figs4funforum.websitetoolbox.com/post/Black-Beauty-10-5440878

Originally Posted by LeanderFig
Have you tried asking the seller these questions? I understand that he could just make up some garbage to tell you, but I was just wondering if you asked, and what he said. Sounds intriguing though.

Originally Posted by Babylon


I don't grow any of those varieties. Happy new year to you!


Now, let's take all take chill pills and think about things objectively.

Originally Posted by figavenger
Folks I am writing this to alert members and disabuse you of the shamefully incorrect advice being put out by kkk2210 aka Vinny from Bognor Regis in post No. 668.

He recommends readers to place "an order with MP. Atlest you'll get what you ordered within a certain time frame. If you look at MP's catalogue he almost got every single fig on this planet. There are at least 20 different figs in Mp list that looks like I-258 , genovese Nero AF/Rafeads or whatever. Most Importantly his cuttings only cost €5-€20 euros. So please email him for your cuttings and don't waste your money for some fabricated English named Fig trees. PS: I really don't think usda will come after you. Never seen any physical evidence other than people claiming it. I think the USDA drama is just to make sure you guys buy within the US and pay big $$ when you can get it for a lot cheaper from Europe."

Firstly, Mr Pons has already sold out most cuttings for this season, so taking this advice is utterly useless at the current time.
Second, Mr Pons has very restricted availability due to the fact that he is wholesaling many cuttings to Malaysia.  If, like most normal people, you are seeking his more popular items, such as Rimadas and Coll' de Dama Blanca-Negra, you will, if you are ordering early and timely, be restricted to one cutting per person at a cost of 25 euro per person, about $30, for a single cutting! So you had better be really good at rooting or you will have wasted your time on a very expensive cutting.  Bottom line, it is false to assert that one can assemble a collection from Mallorca on the cheap.

Secondly, let's be perfectly clear that "Vinny" has never tasted either Genovese Nero or I-258, and that is a fact.  Who is "Vinny" to state that Mr. Pons' figs are the same as these prized varieties? This is a half-assed conclusion to make.  I challenge any collector to state that one of Pons' figs tastes identical or similar to these.  What is even more galling is that Mr. Vinny has "UCD infected Ischia Black" in his wishlist, what is that but another expensive "fabricated English named fig tree?" The fact is that the Genovese Nero and I-258 are Italian imports with their own unique flavor profile and provenance.  Mr Pons also has his own special figs from Mallorca.  Each fig is unique and special, and if someone wants to spend their money seeking one out, that is their business and not the department of some huckster newbie like Vinny to criticize.  And suggesting that these are "fabricated English" sounding names is false and insulting to the history of these figs, to Adriano and Todd Kennedy, the men who brought them to North America.

Finally, as stated by Sas above, openly suggesting to people that they can import cuttings illegally into the US without problems is another dishonest and cavalier suggestion from Vinny the fraudster.  First, it is not at all clear that Mr Pons will send cuttings without a permit into the US.  Secondly, if he does so it is at the risk of the recipient, no phyto provided.  And finally, there are in fact people on this forum who have had packages from Pons intercepted, Richie is one such person, let him speak the truth.  Vinny, stop lying to people.  And stop suggesting people engage in illegal activity.  That may be alright for you in England, but its not ok here.

Finally, the Pons figs are sold a lot cheaper here in the US by Harvey, and that is a fact.  So stop spreading insidious false advice, loser!

Originally Posted by DonCentralTexas


Hey don,
Sorry mate my comments weren't towards you but towards some self proclaimed wall street fig growers. Thanks for taking time and showing us your smith. It looks very similar if not identical to ben's smith.

I also like to thank Harvey for sharing his knowledge about figs and ofcourse Ukulele. Ukulele has really helped me to go through the difficult time I'm in right now.

And I wish you all a Merry Christmas

Originally Posted by Aldawwg12
Hey im in Melbourne looking for anything thats not the usual (brown turkey, black genoa and white genoa) hoping to find some vasilika figs or simmilar greek figs or black figs or blue provence

Originally Posted by pofigist
All I want to know if it is legal to bring/sell/buy cuttings from continent .
I simply do not want to buy something which will include as a bonus visit from Agriculture.
Do not imply any other ideas.

Originally Posted by Olga
Hi, Vinny, my own still have no figs on..
But , they originally come from the same place..

Originally Posted by Olga
Here only few figs go dormant, or go in different time, right now many start grow again..

Originally Posted by SimonS
Arcan 
My wife's great great great great grandfather was beheaded, yes beheaded by your so called "heroes" in the mid 19th century. He was murdered for being Christian at the entryway to the Church.

Originally Posted by dfoster25
My spelling really is terrible. It should be Des Roig Manyo. Not D'en Roig Manyo. I apologize. And thanks to the member for pointing it out.

hope for the best, type of deal

Originally Posted by ParacleteFarms


I am amazed at how big the fruit is for that variety. Clicking on the eBay link shows that the listed has been removed. Is there anymore cuttings for sale or do you know of another reliable source that you'd recommend to source the Unk Pelligrino ?

Originally Posted by figpig_66
Why use sand instead of refrigerator?

Originally Posted by Snow_White





Hello Vinny,

Thanks for the pictures of your Pelligrino. I receive some fig cuttings from my Italian neighbor, 5 years ago. With the help of your pictures I just find out it's not a Pelligrino I grow all this time. Little disappointed!. I'm a big fan of yellowish green variety, so I happy to grow it in my garden.
I'm interesting about the Pelligrino fig, do you sale your cutting?

James

Originally Posted by doricdragons
There is a seller of figs on ebay uk, called edengrovenursery. The seller is in the UK, although she says that she can send plants worldwide but is asking £45 a plant which is more than I can afford just now. Just out of interest has anyone bought from this seller? I was hoping to buy cuttings but haven't had a definite answer from her yet.

Originally Posted by fighugger
Hi Vinny, Thanks mate for informing us on the Ebay cuttings for Gentile. But you have other stuff that I am more interested in ! - Will send you a mail about what I am looking for !

Okay I may be out on a limb, but here goes :

I have no say in the rules of this Forum, but in general, in my humble opinion, a very elegant solution is, if you post frequently to show us your figs, growing succeses and failures and discoveries (This way you contribute to the usefull information on the website), and then you simply add under your signuature, your ebay -seller name and any other links you want to publicize, such as your Youtube channel or web address if you have one. That will generate a lot of traffic for you, but not clutter the topic thread with posts about this and that for sale on Ebay. Thats what makes people complain and say "The forum has turened into Ebay".

So just your sexy Photo of that split-open Gentile fig, and some words about how delicious it is, and then your links in the signature, thats the elegant way  - as far as I remember thats the way Harvey or Herman does it. Trust me, just a whiff of that Gentile fig perfume, will get the punters to come around.

So Ercan my friend, thats also my advice to you ! Do your best to contribute with real and valuable information on the forum about figs and fig cultivation from Turkey ! I know I for one would love to read more about the fig-culture of the Worlds greatest fig-growing country ! and see more Photos ! - and then just in passing, discretely mention your ebay-name and any other links in the signature. This will generate a lot of traffic for you, and at the same time it will add to the usefull content in the Forum ! 

The question of who can sell to whom, will have to be settled amongst the people trading, seller and buyer. So inform your customers of any selling terms and rules in the Ebay-advert. We are plenty of followers of this forum who can buy from you two nice Guys.

I for one would like to see many more usefull and informative posts from You two exerienced fig folks. Vinny with your groundbreaking cool climate fig cultivation and collecting in England, very relevant for my own aspirations, and Ercan who is sitting on top of a well of information, on the shoulders of thousands of years of fig-cultivation tradition in Turkey.  Please share that information with us, Ercan, and the customers will find you.