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Subject: Tennessee New Fig Fan - Figs Ripening?ing?? Replies: 28
Posted By: Egghead Views: 749
 
We should arrange something this fall/winter. :-)

Subject: Fig Tree Raffle for Bruno (rescue dog) UPDATE Replies: 30
Posted By: Egghead Views: 1,337
 
How sweet of you. :-)

Subject: Jolly tiger fig mystery Replies: 46
Posted By: Egghead Views: 2,059
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Gordenia

 Is it possible that reverted plant will revert back to variegated form?
My perfectly variegated plant /last season/ all green now.


That depends on why your plant has gone green.

There's a variety of reasons why a plant can show variegation -- genetic mutations, chimerism, viruses, nutritional deficiencies, and so on. And there's a variety of reasons why a previously variegated plant can turn green, which vary depending on what caused the variegation in the first place.

Jolly Tiger is a genetic chimera -- which means that some of its cells produce normal pigment, and some don't. That's why you have random patches of color. With chimeric plants, sometimes the "normal" cells will take over -- the branches that produce more chlorophyll will be healthier and grow faster, and they'll eventually overwhelm the variegated branches. Once that happens -- once there are no more "no-pigment" cells -- you're done. You have a green plant.

HOWEVER -- some chimeras can be affected by environmental conditions, like light or fertilizer. I don't know how sensitive Jolly Tiger is to environment, since I've never had one. If your entire JT was variegated last year, and if the entire thing is green now, you may *possibly* be seeing this effect -- I don't know. But if so, it would be worthwhile changing the light conditions of the plant (move it to a sunnier or shadier location) and changing your fertilizing regimen (stop giving it nitrogen), and then waiting to see what happens.

Good luck!

Subject: Tennessee New Fig Fan - Figs Ripening?ing?? Replies: 28
Posted By: Egghead Views: 749
 
Patience, grasshopper! :-)

I am just east of Lebanon. If you're in the Nashville area, we should exchange cuttings sometime! :-)

Subject: Jolly tiger fig mystery Replies: 46
Posted By: Egghead Views: 2,059
 
 One or two ebay sellers have recently listed "green" or "non-variegated" Jolly Tiger plants -- no doubt for those ever-hopeful folks who dream of reverted plants reverting back to variegated forms.  This guy obviously didn't appreciate those listings. ;-)

Subject: Is Scotts Black = LSU Black ? Replies: 48
Posted By: Egghead Views: 2,953
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by recomer20
Scott,  Got a quick response from Jason re: "LSU Black @ PftP"


Thanks, Rick! I bought one of these as well -- also Poppa John and their version of O'Rourke. At those prices, who could resist?

We'll all be checking them out as they grow!

Subject: Adoption of BT at Lowes Replies: 8
Posted By: Egghead Views: 475
 
Joyce! A woman after my own heart -- I haunt the Lowes markdown racks! LOL!

Subject: Unknown Fig, any idea? Replies: 8
Posted By: Egghead Views: 793
 
I think that baby's name is Green Mammoth. Yes, I made that up. ;-)

Subject: Big Thanks To Tina Boni aka Figpig_66 Replies: 22
Posted By: Egghead Views: 692
 
So cute!

Next challenge: specific designs for each fig variety! ;-D

Subject: Picture of a Spider on my Tree. Good or bad? Replies: 9
Posted By: Egghead Views: 485
 
You should only worry about him if you're a bug. ;-)

Subject: Strange--mouse mummy on a fig twig Replies: 32
Posted By: Egghead Views: 689
 
I can't quite tell from the pic -- but is his head actually still there? If not, then some predator dropped him. If the head's there, then I'm going with latex. It isn't technically toxic, but I can sure see it gumming up a mouse GI tract.

Subject: Favorite of the Celeste group? Replies: 22
Posted By: Egghead Views: 890
 
Hey Richie --

A sport is a mutation. A bud sport means a mutation on one branch or bud of the plant. But so far as I can tell, we really don't *know* whether TN Mountain is actually a sport at all, or is just a "variety" named after a random tree that somebody happened to notice growing in an area where they didn't expect it to. To compare -- I mentioned the Chicago Hardy I started from cuttings that I got in Oak Ridge, same town as the TN Mountain momma plant. I could have taken those cuttings and named it Oak Ridge Hardy, and claimed that it was a super-hardy sport of CH. But that wouldn't actually make it any different than anyone else's CH.

So far as I can tell, nobody has actually grown TN Mountain and "regular" Celeste side-by-side. Maybe that'll be my job. ;-)

Subject: Has anyone tried the SIPs at Home Depot? Replies: 24
Posted By: Egghead Views: 962
 
Good idea, Austin. I may have to try that!

Subject: Favorite of the Celeste group? Replies: 22
Posted By: Egghead Views: 890
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by figpig_66
Its a sport of celeste so should be different


Ehhh. It's purported to be a "hardier bud sport" of Celeste -- but that doesn't really mean much about either taste or performance, especially with all the confusion amongst varieties in figs. I'd like to see if anyone has real-world experience with it growing side-by-side with other Celeste types.

But thanks for jumping in!

edited to add -- I just did some forum searching, which didn't answer my question -- but it did tell me that the "original" TN Mountain tree came from Oak Ridge. So now I'm smacking myself. I lived in Knoxville for more than 20 years -- that's about a 45 minute drive from Oak Ridge, and I used to drive to Oak Ridge every week. In fact, my very first personal fig tree came from a home in Oak Ridge, though that was a Hardy Chicago. If I had only known about TN Mountain then, I coulda gotten some cuttings for myself!

Subject: OT: Pakistan Mulberry Replies: 6
Posted By: Egghead Views: 286
 
I grew up with a huge, regular-old, ancient mulberry tree in my yard. Yum. And lots of drunk robins every summer. ;-)

Maybe I'll try planting a mulberry here one of these days.

Subject: MBVS vs Ginos Bl observations Replies: 14
Posted By: Egghead Views: 1,000
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by greg88
Susan,
A tip from Bass that I use, Mothballs under the wrap.  Never had any issues to date!


That's a good tip. I'll probably be wrapping trees this winter -- and being on a farm, I've got LOTS of mice (not to mention moles and voles) to contend with!

Subject: Favorite of the Celeste group? Replies: 22
Posted By: Egghead Views: 890
 
Speaking of favorite Celeste-types --

Can anyone tell me if the Tennessee Mountain fig variant is worth having? Is it noticeably different than "regular" Celeste? I'd kind of like to have one, since I'm in TN, but I won't bother if it's identical to the regular variety.

Thanks in advance!

Subject: Mind the Gap? Replies: 8
Posted By: Egghead Views: 360
 
Some people paint or fill holes like that -- but when you seal it away from air, you are creating perfect conditions for rot underneath.

Yes, it looks scary -- but personally, I'd leave it alone.

Subject: Has anyone tried the SIPs at Home Depot? Replies: 24
Posted By: Egghead Views: 962
 
I got tired of that kind of plastic cracking after being out in the weather for a year or two. Interesting thought about painting them -- but won't that just bring the cost back up?

Subject: "North China" ebay fig -- anybody got a clue? Replies: 15
Posted By: Egghead Views: 708
 
My little plant came this afternoon. It is healthy and looks ready to take off, and is fairly represented by the photos in the auction. Oddly enough, though, it came with a cultivation sheet for **Hardy Chicago**. Heh.

As I mentioned before, I have a TC Magnolia to compare this with as it grows. I'll try to report back in a year or so.

Subject: Need advice Replies: 26
Posted By: Egghead Views: 1,019
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by figpig_66
I find when i need to have a cutting grow full proof for me is a pot taller than the cutting fill with half perlite half soil. Push cutting all the way down till one or two nodes stick out. All ways a winner.


I'm with Richard. 1/2 to 2/3 potting mix, 1/3 to 1/2 perlite. Plant the cutting DEEP to encourage more roots. Sit back and wait.

Subject: "North China" ebay fig -- anybody got a clue? Replies: 15
Posted By: Egghead Views: 708
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by dkirtexas
Without a doubt the figs shown are Magnolia/Brunswick.  I have never seen any figs off a Magnolia/Brunswick that were any darker than those shown.  


If you look at the various ebay auctions for Magnolia, you'll see a lot of dark to darkish fig pics.

http://www.ebay.com/sch/Home-Garden-/11700/i.html?_from=R40&_nkw=Magnolia+fig

http://www.ebay.com/sch/Home-Garden-/11700/i.html?_from=R40&_nkw=Magnolia+fig&LH_Complete=1&rt=nc

Obviously, ebay is not a terribly reliable source. But if you look at the varietal pages here at F4F, you'll also see that many of the fig pics under Brunswick (there are few pics under Magnolia) are also at least somewhat darker than those shown on the auction in question:

http://figs4fun.com/Thumbnail_Brunswick.html

OTOH, a lot of those differences can easily be due to culture/climate/conditions, and I agree that the various characteristics match up pretty well with Magnolia/Brunswick. I've marked my fig list to reflect that likelihood.

Thanks to all who chimed in!



Subject: "North China" ebay fig -- anybody got a clue? Replies: 15
Posted By: Egghead Views: 708
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dave
Thats a Brunswick / Magnolia 


Ya think? I wouldn't be surprised if it is something common like that.

I've got a TC Magnolia, so in a year or two I ought to be able to compare side-by-side.

edited to add -- on the other hand, the figs in the ebay pic aren't as dark as the figs in pics I've seen of Magnolia....

edited again to add -- on the third hand, the second set of  "Accession 1-8" photos under Brunswick do look like a reasonable match -- http://figs4fun.com/Thumbnail_Brunswick.html .

Anybody else wanna jump in?

Subject: "North China" ebay fig -- anybody got a clue? Replies: 15
Posted By: Egghead Views: 708
 

This isn't the "wuhan"/"zhangzhi" black fig I found on a forum search.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/231580031918?_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

Anybody got a clue what this is?

And yes, I bought one -- what the heck, I like the leaves. ;-)

For all I know, it's a standard US variety that has crossed to China and back. Thanks in advance for any input!


Subject: Lattarulla same as White Marseilles ??? Replies: 6
Posted By: Egghead Views: 503
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by cone9
I'd bag a few mid-season flowers.  [....]

If the seed you grew from this year is pure it matters not how those flowers are pollinated, the plants will all produce the same fruit.  Cross-pollination will not affect this season's crop, only the seed produced in this season's fruit.


Yeah, I'm talking about saving seeds for next year.

These are all container plants, so they are fairly well separated from each other. But if it's safer to bag em, I can easily bag a few for saving.

Thanks!



Subject: Lattarulla same as White Marseilles ??? Replies: 6
Posted By: Egghead Views: 503
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by cone9

I grow hot peppers and we have similar problems.


Speaking of peppers --

How far should plants be separated to avoid cross-pollination? Or is it necessary to bag the blossoms? I'm growing some older pepper varieties this year that should probably come true from seed -- if they don't get themselves cross-pollinated.

Thanks for any info!

Subject: Jolly Tiger Ebay auction question Replies: 8
Posted By: Egghead Views: 391
 
Your auction is only at $41 right now. You know it'll end up going for much higher than that, even if the foreign guy had never taken part. I wouldn't worry about cancelling the auction -- his bidding won't have any effect on the final total.

Subject: Advise needed on rooting cuttings Replies: 14
Posted By: Egghead Views: 535
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by binniez
Thanks Egghead! In this case that the roots are forming, do I still have to keep the cuttings in shade or can I move them back to my window where they were originally?


Never place cuttings in direct sun. I can't tell you about your window, because I don't know how much sun your window gets.

I root cuttings outdoors under trees. Some light is fine -- just nothing bright or hot!

Subject: ebay, ebay, ebay Replies: 10
Posted By: Egghead Views: 679
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jerry_M
plant-creator on ebay blocked my bid last night because my PayPal account wasn't linked to my ebay account. I wonder if he really intended to block bidders whose PayPal accounts were not linked to their ebay accounts or just bidders who did not have PayPal accounts?


I doubt he blocked you for failing to link accounts. I have made multiple purchases from him, and I do not have linked accounts either.

Subject: Home Depot Figs.. Replies: 18
Posted By: Egghead Views: 605
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by coop951
I root summertime cuttings the way Bass does :
http://www.treesofjoy.com/content/rooting-softwood-fig-cuttings
This would be my recommendation to you.
Good luck


This is how I root as well, with just a couple of modifications.

First, I lightly score the bottom end of the cutting to remove just the bark in three or four strips of about an inch long each, to leave green cambium showing. This probably doesn't make much difference -- it's just a habit from how I was taught years ago.

The other difference is that I use 2-liter colorless soda bottles with their bottoms cut off instead of the plastic baggies. Most cuttings will fit in them just fine, and they are more durable than the bags.

Subject: Advise needed on rooting cuttings Replies: 14
Posted By: Egghead Views: 535
 
If you get rot, the rotting ends will start getting slimy, soft, and/or smelly.

Those little white bumps near the end of the cutting are little baby roots trying to start forming. Hang in there!

Subject: Advise needed on rooting cuttings Replies: 14
Posted By: Egghead Views: 535
 
Personally, I'd also stay away from the fertilizer. Depending on the formulation of the fertilizer, it may force the cuttings to push out new green growth instead of using their energy to form roots. I use rooting hormone, no fertilizer.

Subject: KITTY LITTER ....really ....KITTY LITTER ! Replies: 23
Posted By: Egghead Views: 1,921
 
Yeah, you've got to pot up plants of the same type and same size and age at the same time, doing one group without the litter and a second group with the litter. Preferably with several identical plants in each group.

Myself, I'm a little skeptical. The kitty litter beads aren't actually the same thing as the water-retaining crystals. But you'll never know if you don't give it a good try!

Subject: Transplanted fig survival? (newbie questions) Replies: 22
Posted By: Egghead Views: 962
 
I'm looking forward to that long-fingered one. I love that leaf shape!

Subject: What other kinds of plants are people growing? Replies: 21
Posted By: Egghead Views: 762
 
Josh --

I'm a variegated plant addict. If it's variegated, I'll probably buy it. ;-)

Subject: What other kinds of plants are people growing? Replies: 21
Posted By: Egghead Views: 762
 
No greenhouse here -- well, that's not quite true. The property has a small leanto greenhouse, but the year I moved in the dogs I had at the time tore the plastic sheeting to shreds and I've never repaired it. Maybe this year! I do have a nice (but cold in the winter) sunroom.

I grow a little of everything. A few plum trees, now 21 figs, plus water lilies and many other water plants, and many assorted ornamentals from agaves to yuccas (no zinnias!). I just spent the afternoon putting six more of the figs in large pots, and then planting various basils, peppers, and greens around them in the pots. My parents have much better soil than I do, so I plant peach trees at their house.

Since you were asking about tropicals, I also have bromeliads, including two variegated pineapples.

Subject: Idiot proof way of starting cuttings Replies: 12
Posted By: Egghead Views: 731
 
Ummm... is that an upside-down one, with all the roots coming out of the "top"? ;-)

You've got tons of good-looking babies there!

Subject: Sicilian Black Replies: 4
Posted By: Egghead Views: 431
 
Thanks, Cal.

I've never even heard of Papa John. Now I've got yet another fig to look up!

Subject: Sicilian Black Replies: 4
Posted By: Egghead Views: 431
 
Thanks for the input, Richard. I wish they all came with little DNA barcodes! ;-D

Subject: Sicilian Black Replies: 4
Posted By: Egghead Views: 431
 
Whew. I think I'm actually done buying figs for the year! Except maybe for Panache.... and there's still a coupla Kathleen Blacks on ebay.... ;-D

But anyway -- I just got a Sicilian Black, Robin strain. I looked it up here on the site and at GW, but there's not a whole lot about it. It's supposed to be good tasting, may have a tendency to sour in rainy weather, and may be a slow grower. A few years ago, there was some confusion between Sicilian Black, Scott's Black, and Sal's Corleone.

Has anyone got updated info on this variety?

Subject: Flanders fig and/or Northland/Nordland? Replies: 7
Posted By: Egghead Views: 483
 
Yeah, I already tried locating Dave Wilson distributors. No such luck around here -- we are not in fruit tree paradise as you are! ;-)

I already have a baby Olympian starting its life here. Crossing my fingers for it.

Thanks for your thoughts!

Oh, P.S. -- I may go with Edible Landscaping instead. They also have some other plants that I'd be interested in having, and I could also try their version of the O'Rourke fig while I'm at it.

Subject: Flanders fig and/or Northland/Nordland? Replies: 7
Posted By: Egghead Views: 483
 
Thanks, Sarah! The shipping is high, but with the other plants I would order from them at the same time to spread the shipping cost around, I'd be paying around $30 total for the Panache. OTOH, your report that your Panache is not striped is more worrying! I don't want to waste all that time and anticipation, let alone the money, just to find out it's not true to name!

Subject: Flanders fig and/or Northland/Nordland? Replies: 7
Posted By: Egghead Views: 483
 
Thanks, Rick! I'm not *exactly* just starting out -- I had a few figs in pots at a previous residence more than a decade ago, and both my parents and my brother still have figs in the ground that I gave them then -- but I am certainly starting over, in terms of figs, and I'm looking at lots of varieties that I never even heard of back then. I need all the help and info I can get! ;-)

Subject: Flanders fig and/or Northland/Nordland? Replies: 7
Posted By: Egghead Views: 483
 
I'm casting around to see whether it would be worthwhile/reasonable for me to buy a Panache/Panacheee fig this spring. One of the sites that wants to sell me one at a reasonable cost (Raintree) also carries Flanders and Northland/Nordland varieties.

I can find a little about these on a quickish search, but not much. Both are supposed to have good taste. Flanders is said to require "warm summers", and Northland is said to do well in cool regions.

I'm having trouble translating that to the real world. Does anyone have better info on these? Has anyone tried growing them in the mid-South, or anywhere in zones roughly 6b/7a-ish?

Thanks in advance for any info!

Subject: VdB from TC, 1 Year On Replies: 22
Posted By: Egghead Views: 665
 
Interesting to hear y'all talk about TC figs. I bought several from Wellspring this spring. It will be interesting to see how they compare in growth and production with my cutting-grown plants!

Subject: Cuttings from ebay Replies: 10
Posted By: Egghead Views: 438
 
Very interesting, Coop, thanks!

Subject: Cuttings from ebay Replies: 10
Posted By: Egghead Views: 438
 
"You would also be selling cuttings that are not really fresh, and I don't think that would be something that you would want to buy yourself."

This is a question I was wondering about even before Jerry posted. How long can fig cuttings be stored and still retain a reasonable level of viability? I noticed at least one ebay seller of cuttings who has stored them since last fall, and one person on the UCDavis thread mentioned that UCD's cuttings are stored over winter as well. How long can the cuttings hold out?

Subject: Cuttings from ebay Replies: 10
Posted By: Egghead Views: 438
 
Ah-hah. I had been watching those cutting auctions last night, but I decided to sleep rather than see the ends of them. Congrats on your winning bids!

I am NOT an expert on fig cuttings in particular, but it seems to me that -- like anything else -- cuttings will continue to lose viability the  longer they're stored. Why not root them ALL now? You can sell the started plants later, instead of the long-stored cuttings.

Subject: thumbs up to plant-creator on ebay Replies: 37
Posted By: Egghead Views: 1,006
 
I agree!

Back on the subject of the plants I received -- given the size and branching of these plants, I'm wondering if they -- or at least one or two of them -- were started as airlayers rather than cuttings. Not that it's essential information, but I'm wondering whether there's a reliable way to tell the difference. For instance -- does leaf size matter? Folks talk about juvenile leaves on cuttings -- well, do air-layered starts have juvenile leaves? For instance, if I make an air-layered start from the very same wood I'd start a cutting from, will the leaves be different depending on which technique I choose?

Subject: thumbs up to plant-creator on ebay Replies: 37
Posted By: Egghead Views: 1,006
 
"You really should have left your review with that information. I dont see the reason to bring up another ebayer."

Sigh.

I was making comparisons. I was pointing out another reason why plant-creator has been the cream of the crop for ebay sellers this spring.

Yet again -- I never criticized ANYONE by name. There are many posts here on the F4F forum saying much worse, AND naming names when they do it.