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Subject: eBay auction Replies: 12
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Hi Vinny, Thanks mate for informing us on the Ebay cuttings for Gentile. But you have other stuff that I am more interested in ! - Will send you a mail about what I am looking for !

Okay I may be out on a limb, but here goes :

I have no say in the rules of this Forum, but in general, in my humble opinion, a very elegant solution is, if you post frequently to show us your figs, growing succeses and failures and discoveries (This way you contribute to the usefull information on the website), and then you simply add under your signuature, your ebay -seller name and any other links you want to publicize, such as your Youtube channel or web address if you have one. That will generate a lot of traffic for you, but not clutter the topic thread with posts about this and that for sale on Ebay. Thats what makes people complain and say "The forum has turened into Ebay".

So just your sexy Photo of that split-open Gentile fig, and some words about how delicious it is, and then your links in the signature, thats the elegant way  - as far as I remember thats the way Harvey or Herman does it. Trust me, just a whiff of that Gentile fig perfume, will get the punters to come around.

So Ercan my friend, thats also my advice to you ! Do your best to contribute with real and valuable information on the forum about figs and fig cultivation from Turkey ! I know I for one would love to read more about the fig-culture of the Worlds greatest fig-growing country ! and see more Photos ! - and then just in passing, discretely mention your ebay-name and any other links in the signature. This will generate a lot of traffic for you, and at the same time it will add to the usefull content in the Forum ! 

The question of who can sell to whom, will have to be settled amongst the people trading, seller and buyer. So inform your customers of any selling terms and rules in the Ebay-advert. We are plenty of followers of this forum who can buy from you two nice Guys.

I for one would like to see many more usefull and informative posts from You two exerienced fig folks. Vinny with your groundbreaking cool climate fig cultivation and collecting in England, very relevant for my own aspirations, and Ercan who is sitting on top of a well of information, on the shoulders of thousands of years of fig-cultivation tradition in Turkey.  Please share that information with us, Ercan, and the customers will find you.

Subject: New German book about figs Replies: 4
Posted By: fighugger Views: 179
 
Feigen aus dem eigenen garten by Christoph Seiler. if you understand German, this is a very nice and usefull Little handbook, especially if you grow figs in Central or Northwestern Europe, an especially if you are new to figs.

Good introduction to fig growing and relevant varieties. All the most important ones are described, and a few new, marginal or exotic fig-varieties are also included. 40 varieties included with nice photos.

I would not hesistate to recommend the book to anyone who is growing figs, North of the Alps.

I have never visited Christoph Seiler, or bought any plants from him, but for years he has been selling figs in his hobby-webshop, so he has a lot of experience with figgrowing in Central Europe, and this is obvious from the details he has in the book. I don't think he is a large scale business, but an interest-driven hobby producer of figtrees.

I was not expecting much from this book at 15 Euros, but I think I got a lot for my Money. I even learned several new things. I suspect Christoph is a regular visitor here, so if you read this Christoph: Thank You  for the effort. I probably also have to get in touch with you and buy a couple of fig-trees in your webshop !

If you want to find the book or the webshop, just Google the booktitle or "Christoph Seiler feigen"



Subject: Lampeira Preta -2016 Replies: 32
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Hi Elin, Thanks for the Photos and info on Nazareth brebas. White Bosnian ? -ohh those fig names ! Hopefully I will get a chance to compare Nazareth and Lampeira in a year or two, since I am growing both. I try to make a Collection of all the good breba-croppers, but sorting out the aliases seems to be a big part of the job ! If you can find the time, then please make a series of Photos of fruit, leaves and tree, of Nazareth Next breba season and post them in it's own thread ! I think that woulld be appreciated by many breba growers.

Subject: Lampeira Preta -2016 Replies: 32
Posted By: fighugger Views: 708
 
Francisco, yes, I enjoy the summer, the new fishlife, and the maturing figs, but I also have a worry, as to what is going on, that the climate is changing that much and soo fast !  But lets not get into that, lets just enjoy the figs !

Elin, thanks for the comment on my oven. I actually just stacked it dry without mortar as a test. It Works fine ! The big goal is to build a bigger, domed one - with dining area under a shady fig tree ! Elin, I see you are from Israel. I have a new plant of the breba-variety Nazareth (St Pedro type)  from Israel. Do you know anything about this variety and its breba-crop ? I can't find any information about it, except the Israeli marketing stuff for the figs.   (If you have some varietal-info, maybe we should move it to another thread)


Subject: Lampeira Preta -2016 Replies: 32
Posted By: fighugger Views: 708
 
Hi Francisco, thanks for the clarification, -15C, that means the freezer will kill the bugs if any are present. If I just store the figs the Whole time in the freezer, I can also prevent mold. I guess now i have to clean out my clay oven and make pizza again, so we can have roasted dried figs for dessert ! Looking forward to tasting those dried figs of Yours with the famous crunchy seeds that only are present in the "real" lands of smyrna figs.

My oven is not an original portugese clay oven either, but a home made dry-stacked construction of fire-bricks, but It will have to do.

More semi off topic : Can you belive it Francisco, this summer here in Scandinavia, was so warm, long and sunny, that figs are still ripening at the end of September (Main crop starting now), and the Atlantic sardines and the Tunas that follow them, decided to swim all the way up here. One Norwegian fisherman caught 190 tunas in one go, and anglers are reporting tunas and sardines all over the place,  right now in Danish Waters for the first time in my 50-years lifetime. Umm the smell of Sardinhas asados, just like when you walk the sidestreets of any town in Algarve on a summer night  !  Now I am only waiting for the fig wasp  to arrive and work its magic ! (ok, thats very unlikely, I know, but I keep dreaming...).


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Subject: Lampeira Preta -2016 Replies: 32
Posted By: fighugger Views: 708
 
Dear Francisco, you mention in your post above, that you dry,  and refrigerate the dried figs ? Do you mean freeze or refrigerate ? I had one of my big jars of dried figs go moldy this year, starting from one fig - thats why I ask. Also: Do you have a household-method to judge/measure if a fig is dry enough for storage ?

Have nice first year plants of Lampeira Preta and Lampeira Parda, so within the next couple of years, I expect to taste the breba crop of these fine Portugese figs.

Subject: Desert King - I challenge You on breba yield ! Replies: 16
Posted By: fighugger Views: 445
 
Pino, The owners of the record breba tree does not use any specific method in pruning, they just cut the branches way back, and remove some entirely, otherwise they would not be able to get into the barn that the tree is standing in front of ! I guess this leads to massive regrowth of long shoots, with lots of brebas as result.

Pino, I could also have sent you an LdA, But it is less complicated if Paully will do it ! LdA Works very well for me. 2-3 brebas on each shoot, and as long as I can leave them on the tree, untill they are fully mature, they taste very meaty and figgy, I like them. My tree is still in its formative years, so I have not been able to test pruning tecniqes on it yet.

I think the most interesting demonstration of pruning for brebas, is done by Bob Duncan on Youtube :


Just wish Bob would show some Photos or footage that tree in spring and summer with breba crop - does anyone know him, so you could ask him for more photos ?

Paully, Thanks for the recommendation of varieties to test. Osborne Prolific, Lattarula, Gilette and Granthams Royal - I have newly propagated trees of. Looking especially forward to tasting Granthams Royal brebas, after all the positive Things you have told about it. And You are right, taste also matters, Yield is just one aspect. We should start a differnt thread on best tasting brebas. Ariane, Giehbulb and Morena - Don't know them, but I will put them on my want list. Wish I could help you at pruning and go fishing after the pruning, but the logistics are prohibitive. I might live in an Island, but the fishing is far from as exciting as in your Waters, I suspect. Fig growing though is pretty much the same.


Subject: Desert King - I challenge You on breba yield ! Replies: 16
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Thanks for photos Pino. They look very good, and obviously have a good potential to form brebas.

Keep us posted on their Progress.

Subject: Desert King - I challenge You on breba yield ! Replies: 16
Posted By: fighugger Views: 445
 
Hi Pino,



I will keep an eye on the two Sicillian Black JR and Sicillian Red, they sound like good candidates. Do you have a Photo of them !?

The fig tree is probably 20 years old.

I don't care so much for holding the title, I would rather find more fig varieties with this cropping potential, and learn more about pruning and growing breba figs !

Hi Doug, don't know Mead, but I will check it out !

Hi Doric and Timo, I agree with the point that a downwards growing branch might promote the forming of breba figs. But I have seen some upwards branches on this tree, that also had 7-9 breba figs. It seems that shoots with a particular vigorous Growth can do this. So definitely pruning severely to promote new annual Growth is one part of it, and fertilization might be another.

Hi JDS and Timo: Yes, if you don't prune severely, the tree will have more shorter branchlets, and on each one will be 0-3-5-7 figs normally. Tipping the summershoots will further promote branching. I cant say how big the root is, and I have not calculated the total number of figs on each branch, think I will need a horticultural student attatched to the project for that. - or we will hav to employ the help of some horticultural institution to make a field trial. But I also think that if "We the fig people" pool our observations we can learn a lot towards understanding of breba-cropping.

Thanks for all comments to this thread, and remember: Keep submitting Pictures of record breaking breba cropping  varieties ! - even if it is on a more branching tree that as been tipped or pruned differently.

Subject: Desert King - I challenge You on breba yield ! Replies: 16
Posted By: fighugger Views: 445
 

I am always looking for fig varieties with a good yield of brebas, since that is the only crop I get.

Quality and taste is important too, but this post is about yield.

This summer I found a branch on a English Brown Turkey with 13 brebas on one shoot from last year.

This is the highest number of brebas I have seen on any one branch of a fig tree, by far.

All 13 brebas reached maturity and were eaten by the owners of the tree.

It has to be mentioned that this tree is growing against a sunny wall, and the tree is pruned severely every 2. year.  I call the tree "Fejø EBT unk". In my opinion it is the standard fig variety of North Western Europe, the European name is "Brown Turkey", The American name is "English Brown Turkey" but it goes under so many aliases, both in Europe and in The US. Of cause it may be a superior clone, but i have no reason or data to suggest that its a special clone. If it turns out to be unique, we could name it "Fejø" after the small Island I live in, and where every garden has a figtree of this kind.

If anyone finds a breba-cropping fig variety that can ripen 13 breba figs on one shoot, please take a photo and tell us about it !  (I am also interested in varieties with super good taste and fewer brebas, but lets discuss those in another thread !) 

The US's very own Desert King is the most obvious cadidate to have potential to beat this record, but there might also be other contenders ? - from Italy, Portugal, Spain, France, Greece, Turkey ? Untill I hear from my friends in other coutries, I will claim the World Breba Record  for FEJØ ! -Oh and no offence, but this competition is for countries with a frosty Winter season, where figs Loose their leaves - Tropical climates is a different story. 

13 breba BT-1.jpg 
13 breba BT.jpg   


Subject: Any great Breba figs apart from ... Replies: 24
Posted By: fighugger Views: 917
 
Hi Tyler, and anyone interested in highly productive breba varieties.

In my quest for record breaking breba crop, I just found a branch on another EBT-type tree, with a bumper crop of 13 brebas on one branch ! It was again on a branch that grew close to a building, and with a very long growth from last year. So I am thinking; The more growth you can push the fig to this season, more nodes and the more brebas you will have next year. 13 will be hard to top, and as the figs ripen over several weeks, I have my doubts if all 13 will ripen before fall. I will try to check, and report back.

Funny enough this observation goes directly against conventional fig-cultivation-knowhow, as many texts state that you have to force a figtree to compact growth, to promote fruiting. I am starting to think that the opposite is the case under some circumstances.


Subject: Cuttings in UK anyone? Replies: 6
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Hi Haslam and Doric,

I'll be happy to help you both with a few varieties, as cuttings in Winter, to get you started. As long as you are still members of the Common Market, it should be perfectly legal to ship cuttings :) (Internal European Joke)

I have many, so for instance  Ronde de Bordeaux and some of the best early ripening breba croppers. - we can Exchange want lists via PM and mail in Winter, when cuttings can be taken.



Subject: Pingo de mel - an abundant crop soon on this healthy tee Replies: 29
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Thanks for input  Francisco and Jaime, but there is no reason to test main croppers in my garden....only the good brebaproducers. So if Pingo de Mel is only main crop, it will never mature here. I guess I have misunderstood, (or there are several strains of Pingo de Mel).

But I would love to test any prolific breba-varieties you might have access to.........The Petrelli you showed Jaime, sounds promising. I actually tried to root one this spring, but it failed for me. Most of my italian origin cuttings failed for some reason.

Francisco, I just clipped my Prunus lusitanica windbreak hedge today - it is approaching two meters. Once I get my Collection of Quercus ilex up to a few meters height, my microclimate will be as good as possible, here on our Little Island. But still I will not have the sun and heat accumulation of the Algarve...........so most portugese figs will never mature here.

Subject: Pingo de mel - an abundant crop soon on this healthy tee Replies: 29
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Francisco, I am sure you are right, that Pingo de Mel has to have a good microclimate here. But any relatively early brebacropper with heavy loads of figs like that, Í will have to test in my climate. Because of my Island climate I don't have a lot of frost, but growing seasons are cool, long and with lots of sunshine. Of cause I will keep it in a greenhouse untill I know how it does here. Later I can test it on a wall or in a protected spot in the open. Thanks for your advice.

Subject: Pingo de mel - an abundant crop soon on this healthy tee Replies: 29
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Whau ! Francisco, a cluster of figs, Thanks for that one, Mine is a newly rooted cutting, so I will have to wait a couple of years for crop (And some decades of Global Warming, before the fig wasp settles here ;))


Subject: Firs figs of the year Replies: 11
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Oh, I guess what you are saying Aliok, is : Beyaz Orak is not of Dwarf Growth !    I think I get your message..........;)
The reason I asked, is because when I Google translate some of the turkish websites, i get the Word dwarf, but it is probably due to some fault in the translation software......

Thanks for that Photo !  my first thought was that it was a Picture of some kind of fig-superhero with a mask like Batman.

Maybe you will start a trend, where everyone posts a Picture where they stand in their favorite fig-tree.

In Danish books, it always says: The fig plant is a bush, not a tree. You have proved them wrong.

What about the taste of Beyaz Orak ? What can you say ?  (Maybe you can think of a Photo that says it all !)

 - pleeeeease send me an email or private message Aliok ! I would like to talk to you, and to have a fig-friend in Turkey, the Worlds biggest fig growing country ! And I desperately want to try Beyaz Orak for its brebas.



Subject: Firs figs of the year Replies: 11
Posted By: fighugger Views: 295
 
Aliok,

Those look huge ! and the inside looks delicious.

How do the brebas from this variety taste in your opinion ?

Is Beyaz Orak a small tree (dwarfing ?)

Aliok, please send me a PM or an email !

Subject: Figs in Baku, Azerbaijan Replies: 6
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Great adventure. Mark, that first figtree looks like a prolific breba cropper, don't you think ? Were you just there now ?

Subject: Any great Breba figs apart from ... Replies: 24
Posted By: fighugger Views: 917
 
Hi Guys, I like this topic !

I am looking for good breba producers too, and testing some of the same varieties. I have rooted a bunch of varieties this spring, so thank to all figlovers who helped me with cuttings.

Paully, your experiences and recommendations seem to fit well with my growing conditions, so thanks for the info you post here.

Ross, your variety list is impressing and interesting, looking forward to hearing more about your ex      periences in coming years.

I belive the capability to yield brebas is inherent in the variety, but also I would like to understand if we as growers can do something to increase the crop of brebas. (pruning, pinching, fertilizer, soiltype and so on)

Just want to show you this Photo of a fig tree that I spotted. We could call it "Pomlenakke", sorry I didn't rotate it....

Pomlenakkefig_web.jpg 

The reason this tree caught my eyes, was that it had formed up to 9 brebas on a branch ! - and there  were many branches withy 7-9 fruits, much better yield than what I see in my own garden. I talked to the owner, and he did not know anything about it, but kindly sold me a Little plant he rooted from it. Normally I presume any fig tree in Denmark is an English Brown Turkey, because most trees in fact are. But now the question is: Is this a garden variety English Brown Turkey, that just carry a lot of brebas because of some cultural or localization factors I don't understand, or is it an new variety, a sport or something. It will be fun to follow this specimen. lets call it "Pomlenakke unk. BT" untill we know more.

I will definitely visit the tree later in summer, to see the ripening fruits and get some more Photos, this time with my camera so hopefully with better quality than this cell phone Photo.


Michael


Subject: Longue d"aout Replies: 18
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Heres a couple of photos of my Longue d'Aout. On the plate is English Brown Turkey, White Marseille and a split L d'A.

The weird angle the fruit is hanging in is not because I'm on the other side of the world, it's just because I posted it quick without editing and aligning the photo right, please forgive me.

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Subject: If you give Brown Turkey a Bad name, Check this! Replies: 74
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In Defense of English Brown Turkey, or just Brown Turkey as we call it here in Europe.


Wow, Jon, nothing will get you going like brebas or Brown Turkey :) - Well, hold on, here comes a post that combines your two favorite fig phenomenons.......

I guess if I was living in Southern California, i would have other favorites too......

Frank, You are not alone in liking Brown Turkey. But Brown Turkey comes in many versions. The one I am growing here in Southern Scandinavia is an amazing fig variety. I call it Brown Turkey, because I believe it is the original Brown Turkey ! Following in American tradition for naming figs, I would have to call it English Brown Turkey.

Figs have so many aliases, but English Brown Turkey has more aliases than any other fig, I think. One of the more pretty names is “Bella Brunetta” in Italy, but I’m not going to try and list all the aliases from around Europe or USA.

It is a different variety than most Brown Turkeys grown in the US, I believe.

This is the most cultivated variety of fig in northern Europe. It has been the standard variety for decades, if not centuries in Denmark and other northern European countries.  It is so, because it combines several good traits for our cool summers and relatively mild winters. It is, so to speak, our Desert King, because it does precisely what Desert King does for growers in the PNW !

English Brown Turkey Good traits:

-It is amongst the more frost hardy fig varieties, but like any other fig-varieties, it can freeze to the ground, below -15C.

It bears a substantial breba crop of 0-8 figs per shoot, that ripens over a period of several weeks In August,  even in a cool coastal climate.  So one fig tree can carry hundreds of breba figs to maturity, and just one tree can supply all the figs, that a normal household would dream of. The main crop figs do not normally develop to maturity here in Northern Europe. But in a warmer climate, or a greenhouse, they do. (So take note please, it is a common fig, performing as well as the San Pedro cultivar "Desert King".)


The EBT breba figs are delicious as fresh fruit, and they can be used for any kitchen purpose You can think of, and they even dry well, in case the freezer is full, and your family had enough fresh figs and pies for the season.

I think, that the eating quality of figs, is not determined so much by the fact that they are brebas or main crop. More by the weather at the time of ripening. And since these breba-babies ripen at the height of summer here, they taste good.

They actually even begin to dry on the tree, if the tree is in a well drained soil, and the weather is right.

Untill recently, this was the only fig grown here. Elsewhere in Scandinavia, for instance in the island of Bornholm, you also find Brunswick. But very few other fig varieties are found here.  Figs grow into large bushes or trees in gardens close to the ocean, especially in our islands.  Inland they freeze to the ground in many winters. Only breba-croppers have a chance to ripen here. No Main crop variety will ripen in the open in Scandinavia, unless it ripens well before Ronde de Bordeaux. I doubt if such a variety exists.

But is English Brown Turkey really that unique, is it the only fig variety in the world, that will carry up to 8 breba-figs per shoot, in total bringing hundreds of figs to maturity on one tree, in a cool summer climate. ? Maybe not! I have heard about one other variety called Desert King, which is reputed to bear up to 8 breba figs on one branch in the PNW. But I haven’t tried this cultivar yet.
I am searching for other breba varieties to match English Brown Turkey in yield and quality, in my climate. All contenders are welcome, but I think EBT is hard to beat in my climate.

I would encourage all fig growers in the PNW or other similarly cool summer/mild-winter climates, where brebas survive winter, to try our European “English Brown Turkey” (whatever it is called locally) as a supplement to Desert King in the open garden.
Where winter temperatures are lower, its justification is to be grown in greenhouses, in pots, or otherwise protected from hard frost, but please don’t prune all the annual shoots in winter, you’ll miss out on its great breba harvest at a time where all the main croppers still are far from maturity.
BT2_web.jpg  A perfectly ripe English Brown Turkey
btdrying_web.jpg  An overripe EBT, starting to dry. I finish drying them in the oven. A big old jar of dried figs is a treasure in winter. When I open the jar, the sweet fig aroma emerges....
BT_web.jpg  6 delicious brebas on one shoot is not unusual, I've seen up to 8, but to be fair some shoots have zero fruits
BTtree_web.jpg 

The tree that gave the fruits above. Tree is ten years old. Sometimes I have to hug the tree, when I pass it. Thanks for the figs, English Brown Turkey.






Subject: Smooth leaves Replies: 7
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In my opinion, White Marseille has very glossy and smooth leaves.
White Marseille might be the same as Lattarula or Peters Honey. Try and have a look at the leaves from these varieties.

Subject: Anyone have pollinated LSU seeds Replies: 14
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Hi Charles,

If you haven't already, I suggest You contact Lampo in Portugal, and set up some sort of cooperation with him. He knows his figs and has access to pollinated fig-seeds. And very important he is a friendly and helpfull guy.

Subject: caprifig ? Replies: 12
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HI JDS,

yes, yellow, definitely not edible, she never had a ripe one. We have not noticed pollen but next year I will follow the yellow fig closely, and take some more photos along the way. And look for pollen, if not for any other reason,  for interest.

When I have more data, I will post about this fig again. Thanks for input.

Subject: caprifig ? Replies: 12
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Dear Francisco,

Muito obrigado !

Thanks for your contribution, The photos are very interesting. That fig looks very edible. I will continue to observe the ladys fig tree not least out of curiosity.

Francisco, I would absolutely love to test Lampeira preto from you !  My memory of eating the best fig of my life, is still a fig I bought in a market in Portugal, in the middle of the 1980-ties. I was there in July, and the fig was huge and green, with a more flat than turbinate shape, maybe 200 grams (as I remember it, memory is not always correct). I don't remember where I bought the figs, but I traveled both in the north and south from Porto to Algarve. This fig, eaten on a holiday was the decisive fig of my life. Since then I have loved figs. I know I will not be able to grow figs exactly like that, but to test and grow your Lampeira Preta from Portugal would complete the fig circle for me !

Just as a curious note on the climate here in my small island far north of Portugal, Francisco, I can tell you that I grow both Quercus suber, Quercus ilex and Laurus nobilis in my garden, and my hedge is Prunus lusitanica - all plants that originate in Your corner of Europe. I don't raise pigs under my cork and stone oaks, but the acorns of stone oak are ripening now, and I sow new ones every year.

Francisco, If at all possible for you, I would prefer if you harvest, and ship the cuttings to me much earlier in the season than you normally would prune a fig tree. This is because while both yours and mine garden is in a mild location near the Atlantic, the poor cuttings have to travel thru mainland Europe, and you never know if the postal service will leave them on the concrete floor in some unheated warehouse or they will spend the night in the back of a truck in some truckstop with only schnitzel on the menu. And winter generally could begin in Central Europe anytime from now on, though normally it is safe to send plants until November, maybe even December. When the cuttings arrive, I will simply plant them deep in the ground immediately and mulch them with a bit of soil, and they will be safe even if we get a hard winter in Europe.

I will try to send you a mail or pm.




Subject: caprifig ? Replies: 12
Posted By: fighugger Views: 256
 
Good point, will do !

I the meantime I can tell you I am in a small island in Southern Scandinavia. No Polar Bears though, we are Z8, and with a climate that resembles the PNW. Mild winters mostly, and cool summers, but rather dry, and sunny, though rainy weather can persist in some seasons. Our only hope figwise are the early and abundant breba croppers. English Brown Turkeys are the staple fig tree here (Practically the only one known), and they can become huge 5 meters tall, with big trunks, trees you can climb in ! Figtrees only freeze here if you plant in the hollows in the landscape.  We can harvest hundreds of breba figs on one tree, and they are totally mature. The late season ones often starts to dry on the tree, if your tree is in a well drained soil and sheltered position. I finish the drying in the oven. So I have a big old jar of dried figs to comfort me thru the dark and figless months ahead ! and the freezer is full too ! I have started to test other varieties, and so far White Marseilles and Longue d'Aout brebas also ripen well here in August-September depending on weather. Unfortunately White Marseilles is a shy bearer for me. Last year Ronde de Bordeaux set figs for the first time, and ripened well thru October, but last year was exceptionally warm and with a long growing season. I do not expect any main crop figs to ripen here regularly, unless you plant it in a greenhouse situation. But I do believe we can find a number of breba varieties that can ripen well here. My goals are to extend the season in both ends, into July with early brebas and into September-October with late brebas (though they would have to ripen in cool weather then). Also I would like to find a good yellow-skin breba variety and a good green-skin breba variety and, and, and,,,,,,,,

Subject: caprifig ? Replies: 12
Posted By: fighugger Views: 256
 
Thanks Lampo and Figpig. Well Figpig, pardon me, but unlike a pig, I don't wallow in rotten figs and eat all and everything! :) - like my text said, the photo was taken long time after tasting them, after they rotted. Lampo, thanks for your bid, but I think what I have to do is to watch the tree next year, and take some sharp macro photographs at the right time, and submit these to the scrutiny and collective experience of the Forum. Trust me, it's not an edible variety, at least not under our climatic conditions. My own guess is its a seedling plant. But is it a caprifig or a fig needing caprification, or just one that needs a longer growing season ? Next summer I will also dissect some figs and look for pollen.I gave the nice lady who owns the tree a healthy fruiting figtree to plant in her garden, so I think I will be allowed to make regular inspections of the mystery figtree.

Giving people a fig tree is such a great way to make friends, and I know many of my fellow posters discovered this joy. Heck Figpig, I'd even give you a figtree, and make friends with you ! I love figtrees, and I like people who like figtrees ! Thats why I call myself Fighugger!

Subject: caprifig ? Replies: 12
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In a local garden, I stumbled upon a huge figtree with yellow fruits. I was totally extatic, untill I bit into it. It was like cardboard. Can anyone, based on my not too sharp photo, taken after the fruits rotted, sorry, tell me if it is a caprifig ? - so potentially could be used to manually pollinate my fig varieties ?
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Subject: Fig lover from Turkey, Istanbul wants to meet friends Inn NC, Carry Replies: 16
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Welcome Mali, looking forward to read about turkish fig culture, cultivation and varieties, if you can tell us more.

Michael

Subject: Self-fertile that tastes like Calimyrna? Replies: 18
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Hi JDS, Supr interesting seedling project.


Subject: Longue D'Aout Fig Replies: 10
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Congratulations with your Long August, or Longue d'Aout as the french call it. I also got my first ripe brebas on this one here in Z8 cool coastal Southern Scandianvia. They size up really early in season, but then they held out, and matured in Early to mid September. 1-2-3 brebas per branch, not half bad ! And a delicious, big, meaty fig. Sometimes you read an opinion that fig varieties taste the same, but this one has a very different texture and taste compared to other figs I have tasted, and of cause a very different look.

Mine are much more elongated, but that could be the gowing-conditions. binbin, do you think yours is a breba too ?

I agree, it's a must have for cool coastal Z8 - and maybe even in ground to Z7, cause it's reputed to be very, very frost hardy. I am moving a LdA from my test plot to its permanent quarters. I am going to plant it in a soil composed of building rubble, stones and sand - because the litterature says it likes a particularly well drained soil. I belive the good drainage will promote the meatiness and aroma of this fig.

Subject: Updating my website, Fig input wanted Replies: 7
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Slavtcho, thanks for replying, I moved my question to a new tread, it would be great if you move your answer there too ! - I dont want to crowd Kiwibobs communication :) thanks.

Subject: PNW Seattle Fig test Replies: 1
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Have you noticed KiwiBob's updated page on Figs for the PNW/Seattle ? (https://sites.google.com/site/kiwifruitsalad2/)


I grow figs in a very similar climate in the ANW (Atlantic North West) in Denmark, Southern Scandianavia. Fig trees become huge and beautifull, but ripening fruit is the challenge here. I love to walk or sit under my figtrees and smell them, look at them and touch them, but I love eating figs too !

I have some suggestions/questions for people Who visit Bob's website and who share our climate:

Question 1. Which main crop fig varieties would you propose Bob -(and me) to test, that's not already on Bobs website ? Any Main crop fig varieties that ripen before or with Ronde de Bordeaux ? - please name them (Not requiring pollination of cause).

Question 2.   Which breba crop fig varieties are missing in Bob's test and descriptions ? - (no fig wasp, of cause). And don't forget, they have to be really, really low in heat and growing season requirements, just like the existing fig varieties in Bob's website - and preferably ripen a heavy or at least half decent load of delicious brebas. (And please you lucky southerners: Dont tell me brebas dont taste good, they are almost all I've got !)

Question 3. Which yellow fig varieties should we test for our climate ? (I like yellow figs - a lot! - but I don't have any in the garden yet.)

Your input will be usufeull to anyone who grows figs in similar climates, and highly appreciated by me !, (and maybe we can also inspire Bob to keep up the fig-testing and descriptions on his website !)

Subject: Updating my website, Fig input wanted Replies: 7
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Sorry Bob, for partially capturing your thread, where are my manners !

I also prefer 9 per view !

Please cotinue to answer Bob's Questions in this thread, I will start another thread where I ask for feedback on the potential new varieties for test in comparasion with the varieties Bob already describes for the Seattle Area.

Subject: Updating my website, Fig input wanted Replies: 7
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Hi KiwiFigBob (Your new name to my mind :) !

Thanks for updating your already good website Bob. Fantastic and revealing pictures, especially for identification of varieties (and elimination of home made name varieties if you know what I mean).



Subject: Weird fig(s)? Replies: 16
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I found one like that from my English Brown Turkey Just recently. Well to tell the truth, my wife spotted it first. Would be fun if that was a permanent mutation, that could be propagated. What should we call it ?
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