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Subject: Worse Theif Than Any Animal Replies: 8
Posted By: Gene Views: 883
 
This year has been very bad for fruit/plant theft here in my Washington DC yard.  I caught a man in my front yard with a bucket picking all my favorite figs from my Kathleen's Black.  He did give me the bucket after I yelled at him, but he had picked them at a little earlier stage of ripeness than I like.  (A neighbor had seen this same man robbing me last year.)  Then someone stole potted fig and pomegranate plants and fig fruits from my back yard, and then later someone came and swiped all my (unripe) persimmons within arms reach off my Nikita's Gift Persimmon and all the best pomegranate fruits.  I'm going to have to build a high brick wall or hire a sharpshooter as lookout on my roof.  On the bright side the squirrels haven't been too bad this year.

Subject: san pedro 2nd crop without caprification Replies: 8
Posted By: Gene Views: 691
 
The only thing I've read in this regard is that in certain climates this will happen, such as England or PNW.  Not sure why it happens, or if it always works this way.

Subject: Excell a first for me Replies: 8
Posted By: Gene Views: 853
 
Mine is bland and boring too -- even the critters agree.  They gobble up my Paradiso even before the fruit fully ripen, but the Excel is the last one to be eaten, and even then they don't eat them all.  I'm toying with cutting it down, but its shape and size fits nicely for where it's at.

Subject: fig disease Replies: 8
Posted By: Gene Views: 1,236
 

I would check the lower trunk for tiny pin prink size holes which would indicate Asian Ambrosia Beetles.  I've started having problems with them and have had to chop many trees back in an attempt to keep them in check.


Subject: Tanglefoot Replies: 18
Posted By: Gene Views: 3,930
 

Dan, I've had some success with small drawstring muslin bags, and nylon footies on individual fruits.  It seems to help with the birds, but does little to stop the squirrels.  The main problem I found was knowing when the fruit was ready to pick.  I'd forget to give them the gentle squeeze test, since the visual wasn't there to remind me.


Subject: Tanglefoot Replies: 18
Posted By: Gene Views: 3,930
 
Dan,
I wouldn't have much hope for the hot sauce idea.  I've seen bird seed for sale that includes capsaicin in it to help ward off squirrels -- but the birds can't taste it, so doesn't stop them from eating the seed.

Subject: Sal's (Gene strain),and Hardy Chicago,New evidence that they are different! Replies: 5
Posted By: Gene Views: 1,395
 

Hi Martin - The Sal's fig came originally from Edible Landscaping.  Mike, the owner of EL, saw how similar his Sal's and Hardy Chicago looked and decided to lump them together and now sells them both as Hardy Chicago.  There's a lengthy tread on the GW Fig Forum discussing it:  http://forums.gardenweb.com/forums/load/fig/msg101415465988.html
(You've made posts to this thread yourself and mentioned that you have Sal's from EL)


Here what I have in my variety notes regarding this Sal's variety:

A tasty fig that does well on the east coast; similar to Hardy Chicago, but more productive. Mine originated from Edible Landscaping Nursery, which now considers it to be identical to Hardy Chicago. I disagree based on my own observations -- also, preliminary DNA testing by the National Germplasm Repository at Davis indicates that Sal's is closely related to HC, but not the same. Research by Byron Wiley indicates that Paul Traceski obtained this fig many years ago from a fellow named Sal in Huntington Station, Long Island. Paul gave the fig to Belleclare Nursery who added it to their inventory as #39. He also gave one to Hanc Matthies who in turn passed it on to Edible Landscaping. Note also that the UC-Davis DFIC 243 originates ultimately back through Edible Landscaping, and is not Sal's Corleone (BC #31).


Subject: Paradiso Replies: 8
Posted By: Gene Views: 1,880
 
Bass,
The one Joe sells and the one I have are different.  There was a long, back-and-forth on the GW fig forum about it:  http://forums.gardenweb.com/forums/load/fig/msg0222022731287.html

I received Joe's variety via a trade with someone else, but the mosaic was so bad I finally threw it out.  Others report that it does quite well for them.  Mine does very well once established here in the ground.  Fall crop is a little on the late side, but most fruits have time to ripen.

Subject: Longue d'Aout pics Replies: 66
Posted By: Gene Views: 11,769
 

Hi Axier, Thanks for the information about the taste.  I'm glad to hear that it's a decent flavor.  It's good that I kept it.


Subject: Longue d'Aout pics Replies: 66
Posted By: Gene Views: 11,769
 
Hi Steve -- that's my site.  It's not commercial -- though I have propagated or sent cuttings occasionally for a small fee instead of a trade.  My biggest reason for having it was to help me keep track of my variety list, along with links to other sites and documents.  Of course along the way other people have found it and made contact, so it's been a nice way to meet other fig enthusiasts.

In regards to the Longue d'Aout -- I got it from another poster on the GW fig forum about 3 or 4 years ago.  It had just started fruiting when I decided to remove it and start over in a new site -- so I still haven't tasted it.  All reports that I've read say that it well known for winter hardiness, but that it's not an outstanding quality in regards to taste.  Hopefully Axier will give us his impressions on the flavor.

Subject: New book (in French) 'Figues de tous pays' Replies: 3
Posted By: Gene Views: 950
 

If you want a good book about cultivation buy Baud's book, Pas a Pas.  It is much better.  I have both.  Figues de Tous Pays has a few pretty pictures, recipes, and a variety list that has only very brief descriptions and even a few mistakes.


Subject: Dark Portuguese, Sal's, and Hardy chicago Replies: 14
Posted By: Gene Views: 2,866
 

Thanks for the offer, Jon -- but guess I'll pass this go-round.  Got'em coming out my ears as it is.


Subject: Dark Portuguese, Sal's, and Hardy chicago Replies: 14
Posted By: Gene Views: 2,866
 

I know you all are speaking in jest regarding Peg's Sal's fig -- but Herman, Jon and Peg all got their Sal's from me (Herman and Jon via Leon), so any differences can be marked up to climate or an insufficient number of leaf samples.

 

Yes, any one tree has variously shaped leaves, which makes comparison difficult -- but not impossible when done thoroughly.  Any one variety tends to have about 3 general leaf types: 1 juvenile and 2 mature.  Hardy Chicago and Sal's EL leaves are very similar; except for one of Sal's mature leaf types which is very distinct from any that HC has.  It’s much broader/fatter than the others.



Subject: UCD Genetic testing Replies: 15
Posted By: Gene Views: 1,908
 
Vern and Herman,

In the past Leon has asked for extra Sal's cuttings from my EL-Sal's a few times so he could pass them on to others.  These he sent on to Herman, Jon and others.  So Vern your #1 and #2 Sal's are the same. 

A few years earlier he had given me a Sal's that had come from another doctor in MS (?), who had gotten his from Ray Givan.  I'd given that one away however and could only send him cuttings from the EL tree.  Later he wrote that he was sure that the EL Sal's from me and his earlier Sal's from Givan were the same.

Subject: Books About FIGS Replies: 10
Posted By: Gene Views: 2,352
 

If you follow the link I posted above you'll see both the address and cost which includes postage.


Subject: Books About FIGS Replies: 10
Posted By: Gene Views: 2,352
 
Shinobi,
Take a look at this thread:  http://forums.gardenweb.com/forums/load/fig/msg1118152717230.html
(3rd to last entry)

It's still in print.

Subject: Identify these 2 figs? Replies: 4
Posted By: Gene Views: 839
 
Jon,
As figs mature, the growth rates slows somewhat and the leaf shape changes.  I'd suggest avoiding using leaves from juvenile growth if you're looking for a standard leaf shape as a marker for a particular variety.

Subject: Borers in fig tree Replies: 1
Posted By: Gene Views: 1,614
 

Could be the Asian Ambrosia Beetle
 
http://www.uaex.edu/Other_Areas/publications/PDF/FSA-7064.pdf

Had some "burnt" looking limbs in my orchard this year.  One or two spouts looked just fine then just up and wilted and turned black.  Didn't affect the rest of the tree.  I was wondering about whether it could be this beetle.  Fortunately figs come back up so easily from the base.

You might want to check out this thread on the GW Fig Forum:  http://forums.gardenweb.com/forums/load/fig/msg0515033518558.html


Subject: Edible Landscaping( HC and Sal's the same?) Replies: 4
Posted By: Gene Views: 1,231
 
I bought a Sal's from Michael at EL about 2001, 50 HC from him in 2003 (and another Sal's).  While they are similar, they are not the same.  Any one fig produces a range of leaf types, HC and S do share similar leaves, but S produces one broad leaf form that is distinct from any that is produced by HC.  The Sal's is much more productive, and better fruit.  HC almost never produces a breba, Sal's produces some.  There was a thread 1-2 years ago on the GW fig forum on this issue.  Herman was able to discribe the differences in their fruit forms.

Note that there were two Sal's figs sold by Belleclare.  The one from EL was one of them, but the other one I think was considered to be THE Sal's fig.  George and Herman might be able to say more.

Subject: UC Davis' Sal's fig Replies: 17
Posted By: Gene Views: 6,171
 
Jon,
Dark Portuguese originally came form "Bass" Bassem S. in PA.

Subject: UC Davis' Sal's fig Replies: 17
Posted By: Gene Views: 6,171
 
In a post to the NAFEX list serv 7/22/06, Doc Lisenby wrote:

"Years ago a guy named Sal who was successful growing a fig in Connecticut sent me a couple of  cuttings.   He didn't know the name of it so we called it "Sal's Fig".  It has become rather popular and is available from several sources."

This may or may not be the EL version.  Wonder whether this Sal is the same as Chris D's relative?

Subject: UC Davis' Sal's fig Replies: 17
Posted By: Gene Views: 6,171
 
Jon,
Here's Leon's post on GW:

I acquired my original Sal's from E.L. I also propagated some cuttings of a Sal's fig from a doctor friend in Tennessee to compare. It turned out that the two figs were identical. Eventually I shared cuttings with various collector friends. As luck would have it, Gene replaced my original Sal's tree which I regretfully lost to a house move. I shared some of these cuttings to friends like Herman.


Subject: UC Davis' Sal's fig Replies: 17
Posted By: Gene Views: 6,171
 

Yes, George is correct.  Leon lost his original tree after he moved.  I supplied him with several cuttings that he passed on to others including Jon and Herman.  So the UC-Davis Sal's is the EL version.


Subject: FIg ID Please Replies: 41
Posted By: Gene Views: 4,627
 
Hi George,
Yes, I agree that the fruit and leaf shapes are very similar to my "St. Jerome" - while the rind appears thicker and pulp color is more red.  The fruit shape and skin coloring are amazingly similar.  Can't comment on the eye.  I removed my yard tree of St. Jerome to open up the canopy.  The yard was becoming too crowded.  I still have this variety in my orchard out side of town though.

Subject: PARADISO FIG? Replies: 17
Posted By: Gene Views: 5,675
 
Jon + George,
The Paradiso that I sent you two is the same as what Davis has (I donated it last year as a small tree).  It's a bit surprising that they're saying it's the same as their Green Ischia, Fico Verde and Monstrueuse.  I have their M., but never thought to compare the two.  If so, I'll toss it, because it doesn't preform as nicely as the Paradiso.

If anyone is looking to have a cutting of this, I'll soon have gobs when I do my fall trimming.  Just let me know and we can do a trade or for postage.