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Subject: Herman2 Replies: 30
Posted By: HarveyC Views: 965
 

Sad to see Herman go.

I don't believe any of his posts are deleted.  They are not easy to search for using the search tool but Google can help:

https://www.google.com/#q=site:https:%2F%2Ffigs4funforum.websitetoolbox.com+herman2 (add other terms you want to find to search)


Subject: Fig Tree From Godfather Movie Update Cuttings Available Replies: 12
Posted By: HarveyC Views: 327
 
Great grower, thanks again.

By the way, HAPPY BIRTHDAY! :)

Subject: First Smith 2016 Replies: 30
Posted By: HarveyC Views: 657
 
I'm trying out Jake Shimabukuro's theory that the ukulele is an instrument of peace and learning to play that.  I suggest everyone get one for Christmas! :)

I can't post a photo of mine here, getting an error message that storage limit is exceeded.  Here's a link:

https://www.facebook.com/Figaholics/photos/a.560029974057420.1073741827.556076651119419/1137370112990067/?type=3&theater



Subject: Ebay Seller Replies: 15
Posted By: HarveyC Views: 536
 
https://figs4funforum.websitetoolbox.com/post?id=8264726

https://figs4funforum.websitetoolbox.com/post?id=7247685  (reports indicate that this Robrod815 should probably be added to the list in this thread)

Subject: i'm back.. sort of.. Replies: 42
Posted By: HarveyC Views: 688
 
Glad to hear you're doing better now, Pete.  I only have what several others have already offered but get in touch of me if you expand your list.

Subject: Shout Out to Harvey/James & Friends Replies: 69
Posted By: HarveyC Views: 1,087
 
Anybody know how Gorgi is doing?  I wrote him quite a while back with no response.  I was very impressed with GM-172 last year and would like him to give it a nice name.

Subject: eBay Scammer Alert Replies: 26
Posted By: HarveyC Views: 684
 
I don't bother doing that Dave since my ID on eBay is the same as here. :)

Subject: Coll de Dame varieties Replies: 58
Posted By: HarveyC Views: 1,068
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by DevIsgro
Thanks for the clarification Harvey! This business of genetically testing figs is fascinating.


This report has been discussed here several times in the past.  Since it is based on testing that didn't test all genes or genes which were identified as representing specific species characteristics it is clear that this report is more useful in identifying which varieties are different from one another than which ones are the same.  In other words, if some genes were found to be different, than those accessions are obviously different.  However, if two accessions show that the tested genes are the same there is still a significant chance that other genes not tested are different.  There's been prior discussion about Sal's, Dark No. 1 Portuguese, and Abruzzi not being the same even though they appear to be on the chart in this report.  It's a useful report but the limitations need to be understood.  Since the time this study was done additional work on understanding the Ficus carica genome has been done in Japan and Israel, the last I checked (I actually had a geneticist friend of mine read the information at genbank.org for me since I did not understand what I was looking at).

Subject: Coll de Dame varieties Replies: 58
Posted By: HarveyC Views: 1,068
 
I had been communicating with John Preece, Malli, and Howard already on another matter and brought up this issue about Panache because it seems that they are quite confused about what fig Ira Condit was writing about when they decided to quote him about when Condit was writing about a chimera of Col di Signora Bianca.  Col di Signora is a snynonym of Col de Dame, of course (in his book Baud includes a synonym of Col de Signora which is close).  Condit himself made a great contribution to our knowledge of figs but also made many mistakes and may not have known exactly what he was writing about either since his comments did include the name Panache or, perhaps, there were different names in use at that time.  Condit's comments include the description of a fruit with a pyriform shape which is fitting for the CdD types but not the fig we know as Panache.

Here is a photo of the placard in question.

WolfskillPlacard20160813.jpg 

In 2006 Malli performed some basic DNA testing of the fig collection (a group of Jon, Sue, Darcy, and myself visited him in 2008 to discuss the methods and equipment, etc., FWIW) and a copy of a research report can be found at https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2860561/pdf/10709_2010_Article_9442.pdf and on page 7 it's pretty clear even with this basic testing that Col de Dame Blanc (cataloged as Col de Dame in GRIN) is not closely related to Panache, being shown separately even in the high level groups of G2 and G9. 

Panache and Col de Dame Blanc are certainly both great figs (as is Coll de Dama Rimada).


Subject: Obervation of pruning effects on fruit production & size Replies: 11
Posted By: HarveyC Views: 281
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by rmulhero
Great post, thanks for sharing this information. I always have questions when it comes to pruning. Harvey do you have pictures or your orchard that you could share? I would love to see what a fig trained on low wires looks like.


I have hundreds of photos on my Figaholics Facebook page.  Here is a photo of one tree after it was pruned and then of another tree taken recently that had been pruned similarly.

Prune20160203IMAG2725.jpg 
 20160825_101146m.jpg  .




Subject: Obervation of pruning effects on fruit production & size Replies: 11
Posted By: HarveyC Views: 281
 
Just as a point of reference, my tree that wasn't pruned is approximately 10' tall, 12' wide within the row, and 8' wide towards the aisle.

Subject: Obervation of pruning effects on fruit production & size Replies: 11
Posted By: HarveyC Views: 281
 
I thought I'd share this somewhat isolated but seemingly clear observation I've had on the effects of pruning. As most of you know, I sell a lot of cuttings as well as quite a few trees and for that I must prune my mother trees. I've trained my trees on a low wire after discussing this method with Ken Love in Hawaii who shared his observations from growers in Japan (commonly referred to by others as a "stepover" design, though I find it pretty hard to step over my trees during the growing season). This method requires a lot of pruning, essentially removing all growth down to the wire every year (though I've left some growth for breba fruit).

I have two Col de Dame Noir trees, both rooted in March 2013 and planted in my orchard in early 2014, I believe (my new orchard was started in August 2013 but I don't believe I started this third row that year but may have). In January 2016 when pruning for cuttings I had enough after pruning one tree and stopped with plans to come back later but work never slowed down and I never pruned the second tree this year. When picking fruit for my fig gathering on August 20th I had Gary P, Dan W, and Ross helping me and one of them asked me if I was sure both trees were Col de Dame Noir since one tree had a lot of ripe fruit on it and the other was obviously later. Yes, they were both Col de Dame Noir, the later tree was the one that was pruned. I've since noticed that I was getting some larger Col de Dame Noir fruit than I had in the past and have looked closer and noticed that the fruit size on the tree that wasn't pruned was larger than the one that was pruned. I still get some very large fruits on some varieties of trees that have been heavily pruned but maybe they would be even larger if not pruned.

Most of us don't want to climb ladders to pick our fruit so pruning will be necessary. Also, some of us with longer growing seasons might like the benefit of one heavily pruned tree producing more fruit later in the year. During the Sacramento CRFG scion exchange we had Ernesto Sandoval, Director of the UC Davis Botanical Conservatory, speak to us on the effects of hormones and plant growth and fruiting, etc. I don't recall all the details and it was a busy time, but I recall the changing concentration of hormones due to pruning which leads to increased growth. I'll follow-up with him to get his thoughts on this. I also recall an old radio show program (Dan Pratt, "The Garden Doctor") from 25 years ago or so where the host drilled into us that we should not prune off more than one third of our trees or bushes and maybe this might be a valid guideline when pruning figs.

Subject: Bebera Branca Replies: 12
Posted By: HarveyC Views: 1,231
 
This is a nice productive variety, some very nice figs!

BreberaBranca20160908-2c.jpg 


Subject: Jolly tiger from USA and Japan Replies: 7
Posted By: HarveyC Views: 249
 
komkom, Jolly Tiger is a fig that came from Japan to the USA. It was introduced by Asiatica Nursery in Pennsylvania which hasn't been in business for several years.  However, I confirmed with the owner earlier this year that he made up the name as the tree did not have a formal name at the time.  A friend of mine in Thailand has visited the creator of this tree in Japan a couple of times and that individual (the creator) was confused about this name because it's not one that he had assigned.  I don't know how it was created but this guy has numerous species of variegated plants.

The odd thing about this tree is that it produces two different types of fruits.  I had one large tree that produces solid colored fruits but saw others who had fruits with stripes.  I had a visitor to my farm a couple of months ago who talked me into selling him my large tree and today I saw he posted a photo with a striped fruit on it!  On top of that, my friend in Thailand recently posted a photo with both forms of fruits on the same branch.  This just seems so strange but makes it a bit more fun with such unpredictability.

Subject: $7 fig trees for spring/summer delivery, around 150+ varieties Replies: 775
Posted By: HarveyC Views: 28,727
 
Alan, thanks.  Yes, I'm busy enough without worrying about anything like competition which I think is good.  Not only am I "hoping" that this works out for James and the customers, I am working on seeing if I can help James out on some varieties (not gifting but just a bulk deal).  I've known James for quite a while and we've already done plenty of business together.

Scott, why on earth speculate who Babylon is and throw out a name with zero evidence?  I had communication with "Babylon" a day or two ago and won't disclose who it is but it surely is not Wills.  It's not a competitor, just someone concerned for the welfare of others.  I would suggest a different approach but everyone is entitled to express their own thoughts in the manners they chose.

I'd like to know where the heck Dennis Johnson is at.  In his absence, I'll try to be his voice of reason: "How about them figs??!!"

Subject: $7 fig trees for spring/summer delivery, around 150+ varieties Replies: 775
Posted By: HarveyC Views: 28,727
 

Quote:
Originally Posted by Frankallen


If you didn't order anything from James, then why are you so concerned with this issue?? I have not mentioned your Name?


You have not mentioned me by name but speculated that it was probably a competitor that posted the critical comments.  Many people might assume you were talking about me.  I want to make it clear that is not the case.

I have also been an active member of the fig collecting community for a long time and have hundreds of friends as a result (thousands of followers on Facebook), so I have an interest in the the welfare of all buyers as well as James.

This forum is a public discussion community.  Why do you think it's inappropriate for me to comment?


Subject: Looking for caprifig bare root/cutting/airlayering Replies: 3
Posted By: HarveyC Views: 123
 
Dang, I was hoping to get to meet you in person in bkk or something.

Subject: $7 fig trees for spring/summer delivery, around 150+ varieties Replies: 775
Posted By: HarveyC Views: 28,727
 

Quote:
Originally Posted by Frankallen




Yes, I'm checking right now, I may have the proof! Some people at a Fig Tasting  were mentioning the word   Ponzi Scheme!!




Good luck with your proof.  I had heard at least one person say it was probably a ponzi scheme but I don't think that's the case and I have no idea who Babylon is.  Someone may have asked me about it during my tasting and I may have commented about that, I don't recall.  I don't really have any inside information nor do you, I assume.

James is someone I've known for several years (prior to figs) and he's been a good customer of mine.  I have done extremely well myself this year so I certainly have not been hurt by James' offerings.  James has also wished me well as I have for him.  I also have not ordered anything from James, though I did consider it earlier this year but really don't need more than what I have already.  As I've said before, I hope this works out well for everyone involved.

I think you should just hold yourself to the same standard that you set for some that made critical comments.  Speculation does no good for anyone.  This stuff about talking like a man or a girl is nonsense, IMO.


Subject: Looking for caprifig bare root/cutting/airlayering Replies: 3
Posted By: HarveyC Views: 123
 
Be nice to me and maybe can work something out, I may be coming your way later this year. :)

Subject: $7 fig trees for spring/summer delivery, around 150+ varieties Replies: 775
Posted By: HarveyC Views: 28,727
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Frankallen
I believe you are right and sounds like it could be someone who is a competitor!


I suppose you have some proof for that, Frank?

I've been silent here about this although many people have asked my thoughts about this.  This is my only post on the matter under any ID, FYI.

I wish everyone the best, seriously.  I don't mind competition one bit.

Subject: Lampeira Prusch and Lampeira Branca Replies: 14
Posted By: HarveyC Views: 203
 
I may have caused some confusion about the Prusch strain some time ago.  A few years ago Pete in NC brought up how Lampeira was a San Pedro type fig and that the fig from Prusch did not fit that and then it became apparent that Lampeira Preta was the San Pedro fig he was talking about so I (incorrectly) assumed that the fig at Prusch Park must be the Lampeira Branca.  Instead, it seems to be something entirely different.  I don't know the original source of the tree at Prusch and I wonder now if it's something entirely different.  Best to call it Lampeira (Prusch) I guess.

Subject: Lampeira Prusch and Lampeira Branca Replies: 14
Posted By: HarveyC Views: 203
 
Nice, Gary, thanks for sharing!

Subject: UC Davis Ischia Black Replies: 34
Posted By: HarveyC Views: 1,657
 
Meg, I believe I had maybe 3 fruits to share and it may have been towards the end and didn't get passed around.

Subject: Final thoughts and photo from Orcacoke fest Replies: 6
Posted By: HarveyC Views: 152
 

This article in the Sacramento Bee published today includes the winning cake recipe from the Orcacoke festival last year:

http://www.sacbee.com/food-drink/recipes/article97246952.html  (near the bottom)


Subject: UC Davis Ischia Black Replies: 34
Posted By: HarveyC Views: 1,657
 
Picking some from trees that are 3 years old as well as from trees I grafted last November.

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Subject: FYI - Figaholics gathering August 20th 10am-2pm (limited attendance) Replies: 8
Posted By: HarveyC Views: 225
 
Some photos and short video were posted at https://www.facebook.com/Figaholics/posts/1141742305886181

Had a great time today, tasting a little over 60 varieties.

Subject: Custom grafting knife - charity auction ROUND 2 Replies: 10
Posted By: HarveyC Views: 271
 
GREAT NEWS!!!

Nic ("nijosm") is a great generous guy.  Not only did he win this second auction and make his second donation of $275 to this fundraiser, Nic has donated this knife back and asked that it be auctioned again!  Hershell is still unable to post here for some reason and I've not heard about that from Jon.  Nic did not select the handle type so that will be the choice of the winner of round 2.  Note: I have a custom knife made by Hershell and really enjoy the larger handle.  I've done thousands of grafts with my Tina fixed blade grafting knives but these old hands ache a lot after doing a lot of grafting (nothing on the scale of what Hershell does, maybe a few hundred a day tops for me).  However, my hands hold onto my knife made by Hershell much easier and I'm looking forward to trying it out on a day-long grafting project.

Don't be shy, get bidding on ROUND 2!  Bidding for this round ends on Sunday (August 22) at 9:00PM Eastern.

Subject: Custom grafting knife - charity auction ROUND 2 Replies: 10
Posted By: HarveyC Views: 271
 
Thanks again Nic!

Subject: Custom grafting knife - charity auction ROUND 2 Replies: 10
Posted By: HarveyC Views: 271
 
Four hours left! :)

Subject: White Medeira Replies: 10
Posted By: HarveyC Views: 249
 
I should have either cuttings or trees available for sale next year.  I am pretty certain nobody has it available yet.  I believe Tan only shared it with Steve and Steve sold one set of cuttings (which I bought and grafted) and I think gifted a cutting to a friend.

Dave, I've not heard that claim before, the fruit and leaf shape appear different to me.  Some of my trees have fruit on them so I will post samples when available.

Subject: Custom grafting knife - charity auction ROUND 2 Replies: 10
Posted By: HarveyC Views: 271
 
wow, nice bid Nic!  Let me introduce others to Nic from LA who also was the winning bidders on an auction I ran that had a choice of 4 trees.  Don't let him have all the fun, though, keep on bidding! :)

Subject: Custom grafting knife - charity auction ROUND 2 Replies: 10
Posted By: HarveyC Views: 271
 
Hershell has just said that he is willing to ship internationally.  The winning bid includes shipping.

Subject: Fundraising for BrianM Replies: 12
Posted By: HarveyC Views: 439
 
See HERE for knife auction

Subject: Custom grafting knife - charity auction ROUND 2 Replies: 10
Posted By: HarveyC Views: 271
 

Our member and friend, BrianM is in need of our help to address a serious medical condition. See https://helphopelive.org/campaign/9430 for details.  I participate in other other groups/forums and there have been several auctions, etc. in at least two other groups for this purpose already with some very generous support.  Others have made direct donations to the campaign.

Hershell tried to post an auction for one of his very popular "legendary" grafting knives but has been unable to do so and I haven't heard back from Jon on the matter so I am posting it for Hershell.  As many of the members here know, Hershell from Georgia not only has a great fig collection but constructs greenhouses and grafts pecans for a profession.  Thousands of pecans.... over a thousand a day, maybe thousands.  For this heavy duty work, he gave up on using regular grafting knives and has made his own out of cobalt steel blanks for a blade that will hold a sharp edge for a long time.  Also, he uses a larger handle for greater comfort.  The winner of this auction can chose a custom size of handle and select from wood of cherry, walnut, or dogwood.  Hershell also makes his own handles, of course.  Since the cobalt steel is too hard to drill through, the handles are expoxed into place and this has been found to be a reliable method.

This auction will end at 8pm Eastern on Sunday August 14th.  I'll confirm the winner here and the winner can make payment to the link above and can forward the confirmation email to me or Hershell (details to follow in PM).  One of these knives was auctioned off on the Ourfigs forum last week and fetched $400 with another $400 in matching donations (Hershell not only donated the knife but matched the majority of the auction)!  This is not my auction and I reserve the right to bid myself (I already have one of these but would like another for a gift).

Attached are some sample photos of these grafting knvies along with rough stock for making a handle for someone with a very big hand. :)

Thanks for your support!

Attached Images
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Subject: Fundraising for BrianM Replies: 12
Posted By: HarveyC Views: 439
 
That was my intention, to get others to consider donating things for charitable auctions, bid on them, or just make outright donations.  The ourfigs forum has also started a "lotto" of sorts also at $10 per square and that would be fine also if someone wants to run that.  That has the potential to generate a lot through numerous modest donations.

Subject: Fundraising for BrianM Replies: 12
Posted By: HarveyC Views: 439
 
Doug, my post has nothing to do with Facebook but that is one method that has been used thus far and I was addressing Cheryl's question with some examples.

Hershell has still been unable to post and I'm awaiting a reply from Jon to see if he will fix that.

Subject: Fundraising for BrianM Replies: 12
Posted By: HarveyC Views: 439
 
In a fig Facebook group I donated a choice of 1 of 4 highly desirable fig trees and the winner was ambitious, bidding against even himself, and won at $275, making the donation to the fund linked above and I shipped him his tree.  Another member offered up a less rare Ronde de Bordeaux which still fetched $60.  Another tree is currently being offered on a Facebook group and another on Ourfigs forum.  In each case, winner pays their bid to the charity, fairly simple.

Subject: Fundraising for BrianM Replies: 12
Posted By: HarveyC Views: 439
 
Hershell is reporting some technical difficulties in posting for the moment.  Stand by....

Subject: Fundraising for BrianM Replies: 12
Posted By: HarveyC Views: 439
 
Our member and friend, BrianM is in need of our help to address a serious medical condition. See https://helphopelive.org/campaign/9430 for details.  I participate in other other groups/forums and there have been several auctions, etc. in at least two other groups for this purpose already with some very generous support.  Others have made direct donations to the campaign.

Several members of our fig community have donated fig trees and paying a high price for a great tree for such a good cause is a win win situation.

Hershell doesn't post here often but has been a very generous contributor to this cause.  His custom grafting knives are a very popular item, manufactured from cobalt steel to produce a knife that will hold an edge very well.  Hershell has indicated he'd like to have an auction here also and asked if I could help introduce this here.  His life knife fetched $400 with matching donations of another $400.  Let's see how we can do here!

Subject: FYI - Figaholics gathering August 20th 10am-2pm (limited attendance) Replies: 8
Posted By: HarveyC Views: 225
 
No, not yet, just dealing with one issue after another for my dad right now, leaving little time for my own tasks.  Everybody that has emailed me is welcome to come as there's enough room, I'll just send out details with directions and location of other attendees in case folks would like to car pool, etc.

Subject: Shout Out to Harvey/James & Friends Replies: 69
Posted By: HarveyC Views: 1,087
 
Great job Mike, your plants look great.  It's great to see how well your efforts have paid off.

Subject: UC Davis Replies: 7
Posted By: HarveyC Views: 276
 

First of all, John Preece is with USDA which leases some property from UC Davis to maintain the repository.  At fruit tastings I've attended several times John has made the point that they are federal USDA employees and not part of UC Davis.  This has nothing to do with any budget matters of UC Davis (though I don't believe there's a problem there either).

I think John first mentioned the change in policy at a fruit tasting last May or June which I did not attend.  It's simply due to the fact that requests kept getting higher and higher and that it was taking more and more staff time to fulfill all of the requests.  Their primary mission is to acquire and preserve material and secondly to be a source of material for research.  Many people made use of their service simply because it was free.  Personally, I've donated material to USDA at Davis and I know Jon and Bass have also.  Late last year I ordered some fig varieties for distribution through CRFG chapters and that's the sort of route that the Davis office wants to focus.

I heard several years ago how the USDA's budget had been relatively flat yet they had acquired more and more varieties and I had volunteered to help however they could use me.  They did have me help on an experimental pomegranate grafting project once, though I don't know that really saved them any money.

In a fig industry meeting John made a comment to me that I had probably already gleaned what I wanted from Wolfskill.  In reality, maybe 8-10 of the 300+ varieties I have came from there.  Like others have said, there are many other sources for fig cuttings.


Subject: Laradek and Hardy Figs Replies: 21
Posted By: HarveyC Views: 981
 

Hard to add much, but here are archived photos that Laradek had posted:

https://web.archive.org/web/20141101045535/http://fikovniky.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=51


Subject: FYI - Figaholics gathering August 20th 10am-2pm (limited attendance) Replies: 8
Posted By: HarveyC Views: 225
 
FYI - as of today, I have 319 trees in the ground with more still in pots.  Last year I picked fruit from 186 varieties, I believe.  This year will be more, though many trees are still small and may only give a few fruits this year.

Subject: FYI - Figaholics gathering August 20th 10am-2pm (limited attendance) Replies: 8
Posted By: HarveyC Views: 225
 
***PLEASE DO NOT FORWARD/SHARE THIS POST. I WILL POST IT WHERE I WANT*** (This is to reduce chances of having to turn folks away.)

I've gone back and forth on how to do this and when to have this. Howard at Davis threw me a bit of a curve ball by informing me last week that the Wolfskill tasting would be on 8/13 which is the tentative date I had picked for a gathering even though he told me a few weeks earlier he'd make sure it was later than mine. Since I did some late pruning it's probably just as well to be a week later anyways. I had one request to move it to 8/21 but I have other family obligations on Sundays and the afternoon traffic at our place is terrible as vacationers head back to the Bay Area (30-60 minute delays to travel just 2 miles is common for those headed to the Bay Area).

This is a gathering and should not be viewed as a solid chance to taste the rare figs that you've been really hoping to try. I have many varieties but most varieties consist of a single specimen and I might only have 2-5 figs of many varieties and won't have time to collect samples of all varieties. Still, I will have plenty of figs for folks to taste and others are invited to bring fruits to share also. I plan to provide figs for tasting and water. Others are invited to bring other food items and beverages.

I will probably have some plants for sale and others are free to bring plants also. I only ask that (1) you ensure your plants are free of any serious pests and (2) you make any sales or trade deals before coming. The gathering is not a venue for someone to use to market their goods. I operate a licensed nursery and my farm is my place of business.

Finally, attendance is limited by necessity and convenience. My driveway is a single lane gravel road, parking is limited, and I don't think I could do a good job trying to show a large crowd around and the chances to taste fruits would greatly decline. I reserve the right to limit attendance to whoever I wish so that means I may turn away some requests. Not being snobbish but just being practical. I have many fig friends I've known for 15 years or more outside of any forums and am also known by many CRFG members (I'm a member of four chapters).

INSTRUCTIONS
Anybody that came to Gary's NorCal gathering last year is automatically invited. But I still request that anyone interested in attending send me an email (harveyc@gmail.com) and provide me your name, location (city, state), number in party, and describe your interest in figs. I will try to reply with confirmations starting approximately on August 1st but it might be a week later than that as I have a very busy schedule. Do not send PMs, etc., only use the email address provided above.

Subject: Panache and Bordissot Blanca Rimada Replies: 6
Posted By: HarveyC Views: 509
 
I've picked many BBR but don't believe I have not taken photos.  Mr. Pons lists it as a synonym to Panache and I have several trees of that and have not observed any difference so I concur with his comments.

Subject: Black Ischia from Portugal? Replies: 15
Posted By: HarveyC Views: 306
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by helike13
Harvey has it and sells it? He did not mention in his Cuttings page...


I did not sell cuttings of it last January as my 2 trees from Tom (TMC2009) have been slow growers as is typical.  I obtained cuttings from Herman in November 2015 (he obtained his from Davis 13 years earlier) and grafted them onto BT and they are growing vigorously with the tallest over 5' tall.  I planted that one in the ground last week and have 7 more in pots and will plant those in the ground this next week, I hope (clearing a new area for plants just being grown as stock for cuttings).  I don't know yet if I will sell cuttings next winter or sell all as grafted trees or do both.

Subject: Panache vs black Madeira Replies: 3
Posted By: HarveyC Views: 312
 
I grow several each of Panache and Black Madeira and both are among my favorites.

I also grow several Figo Preto and, IMO, the are identical to Black Madeira.  On the island of Madeira they call by the informal name of Figo Preto and nobody I've talked to there or from there knows of a similar fig that could be what we know as Black Madeira.  Keith (KK) also grows a black fig from Madeira that appears to be the same (mine just went into the ground last week).

Sas, I suggest you graft Black Madeira onto something more vigorous since yours is growing slowly for you.  It's made a huge difference on my one example.

Subject: Italian 258 Replies: 54
Posted By: HarveyC Views: 1,965
 
99 grams is very large for Figo Preto.  Must be the climate.  My largest I can find a photo of is 57 grams.  My largest Italian 258 from a first year tree was 109 grams.

Subject: Italian 258 Replies: 54
Posted By: HarveyC Views: 1,965
 
I don't believe Planera to be similar to Italian 258.

Sid, Italian 258 fruits are considerably larger than my Black Madeira and Figo Preto.