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Subject:
Monster Seattle Fig & Mystery Fig
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The Denny Party arrived in Seattle 161 years ago in 1851, and the land where the tree is planted was Cheif Leschi's territory for another 7 years.
Even though it is huge, I would guess it was planted in the 1900s.
I'll ask someone else that might know a bit more of its history.
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Subject:
Monster Seattle Fig & Mystery Fig
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The house was built in 1921. I don't see it in the old photo attached to the parcel records. It would be on the far left.
http://info.kingcounty.gov/Assessor/eRealProperty/pictures.aspx?ParcelNbr=5700001175&View=1
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Subject:
Monster Seattle Fig & Mystery Fig
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I had a chance to meet up with a few figs4fun posters this morning for some Seattle fig exploring. It was great having a chance to meet up with Little John (Wildforager) & Kiwibob!
(I'm sorry about the size of these photos....I've spent too long trying to shrink them)
This monster fig tree is at 33rd Ave S & Mt Baker Blvd (Little John, L; Kiwibob R). No sign of figs.
Shots of the mystery main-crop-ripening fig (rare in Seattle) in the same neighborhood from October of last year. I have no leaf shots of it, but plan to observe it better this year. This fruit was slightly underripe. Without the aid of leaves, what are some similar looking figs?
Mark
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Subject:
Gillette Fig First Crop
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Really cool to see this tree fruiting.
As I had mentioned, the original tree was removed shortly after I took the cuttings. Now if I could only acquire a copy!
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Subject:
Zidi Fig
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figman, you are correct. A #1 is ideal. But what they found out was, that out of 4 bagged figs on one study branch, one was able to ripen - or "color" - and was seedless. A very good sign of being parthenocarpic.
Mark
Seattle, WA
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Subject:
Zidi Fig
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When they did their test, their sample size was low and the data showed variability. Instead of rating them persistent (not needing caprification/pollination) or smyrna (needing caprification/pollination) they used as scale based on their observations.
1=clearly persistent
2=reasonably persistent
3=unsure persistent
4=clearly Smyrna?
Mark
Seattle, WA
1213830322
Subject:
Zidi Fig
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I'm sorry this is an old post.
In 2005 UCD did caprification test and found that DFIC036 Zidi is "2=reasonably persistent". That's out of 4. The bagged fruit was listed as "large, no seeds in bagged."
BUT further down the list another DFIC036 Zidi is listed as "3=unsure persistent."
DFIC051 Marabout (2 examples), DFIC057 Calimyrna (2 examples) & DFIC087 Snowden (2 examples) seem to be the most consistent at "3=unsure persistent."
Mark
Seattle, WA
1213738102
Subject:
UCD DNA Information Availability?
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It was mentioned in a thread below that there has been some preliminary DNA testing at Davis. Specifically Dark No1 Portuguese. Does anybody have the preliminary data?
I have some results but they don't include Dark No1 Portuguese, so I must be missing something. I would like to know the other Group 6 members.
Here is a table:
Mark
Seattle, WA
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Subject:
Focus on Breba Crop Cultivars
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Hi paully22- does your friend grow breba crop figs, or are you referring to main crop figs ripening in Oct? I have a greenhouse, but use it for trickier fruits.
I believe there must be a big difference in how brebas ripen here in our cool spring than they do in places like CA or locations with high spring heat and humidity. Description of bland and tasteless don't match the quality we get from local trees. Every year we get DELICIOUS brebas from our neighbors King tree and other neighborhood trees that are likely Lattarula, Brunswick, Magnolia and Negronne. Maybe it's because they aren't rushed into ripening? The equivalent of cooking BBQ ribs - a slow roast?!
I have a friend that has been trying to sort out figs up here as well. He has a site with a few pictures:
http://www.geocities.com/kiwibobg/kiwifruitsalad3
His studies have proven very valuable to me and I would like to continue the trials.
pitangadiego - I've always found
your photos of 'King' very interesting
. In the NW, 'Kings' look a lot more like Ray Givens photos. They never turn yellow. Is this a climatic result, or possibly a different cultivar? Does your King ever produce Main crop figs? They don't even form on our trees.
Unripe King Fig (notice the fig scales)
Desert King Tree
It's interesting that you mention the 'Vashion Island' fig. I've heard that around the turn of the century, there was a fig orchard there. Kiwibob's 'Vashion Violet' came from that area and he believes it's a 'Brunswick'.
Mark
Seattle, WA
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Subject:
Focus on Breba Crop Cultivars
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Hi All-
I'm new to this forum, but I recognize a few names from other sites.
I would be very interested in compiling a list of cultivars the are known for a large, good, breba crop. I live in Seattle, and the consensus here by many "experts" is that there are very few main crops that can properly ripen here. It's either a good breba crop, or it's useless. Unlike other growers in the country, extreme hardiness is not an issue with me. Figs are at home in our mediterranean - we just lack the long growing season and have low heat units.
I am still testing some of the early main croppers, but I would like to get a better grasp on the breba kings. UCD did a study a few years ago, and their breba list is as follows:
% Branches
Brebas
Breba
w/ Brebas
per branch
score
DFIC085
King
100
7.625
7.63
DFIC162
White Texas Everbearing
62.5
2.75
1.72
DFIC076
135-15s
45
2.125
0.96
DFIC084
Dauphine
52.5
1.5
0.79
DFIC035
Orphan
47.5
1
0.48
DFIC017
Brown Turkey
40
0.875
0.35
DFIC012
Mission
25
1
0.25
DFIC066
Kadota
25
1
0.25
DFIC003
Marabout-c B (Gulbun?)
10
2.5
0.25
DFIC063
Violette de Bordeaux
25
0.75
0.19
DFIC019
UCR 276-14
17.5
0.875
0.15
DFIC109
K6-5
25
0.25
0.06
DFIC004
UCR291
12.5
0.25
0.03
DFIC053
St. Jean
5.5
0.375
0.02
Any personal observations would be greatly appreciated.
Mark
Seattle, WA
This is a photo of
what I believe is a 'Gillette/Croisic' fig
in our climate:
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