Woknblues
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Great thread. It's amazing how adaptive figs are (and perhaps are not) to their climate. One variety can taste wonderful under certain climate and conditions, and another bland or even poor, etc. ). I am staring at these cuttings I have now wondering which will survive my particular habitat, which will thrive, and which will not make the cut. Going back to the beginning, it's too bad about HF. I have found their customer service to be very good, products from horrid to great, with most in the middle/average. Of course, I haven't had any items drop shipped that were damaged, so they haven't had the opportunity to disappoint. JC Figs, I have an idea. Send me $100, and I will send you back $100 and every single free cutting I have. I promise.
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Yes and year to year the same variety can even taste different, which makes it difficult to cull one thaf may not produce.
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Originally Posted by jc_figs are you giving away or selling the cuttings?
jc we all started out at one point looking/begging for cuttings. What state are you in? As long as you arent in CA or HI, if you paypal me $5 for shipping I can send you some cuttings. For Christmas you may want to ask mom or dad to buy you a variety you want off ebay as well! Then next year you will have something to trade with people :)
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Originally Posted by jc_figs i just asked and if you dont like me ill give u my number no homo and well settle it on the phone
Huh?
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jc let me be clear...
I do not appreciate the nasty uncalled for PM you sent me and you can forget about my offer for cuttings and I would recommend everyone else avoid dealing with you as well.
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i read it wrong my bad when you said what state was i in thought you meant like mental state but the begging part was wrong
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waynea
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This can not be for real members, be careful.
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what are u takin about i just registered for this forum why would i send people nasty emails .
__________________ Name JAILEN feel free to call me jc ........wish list...... black madeira ,ischia b lack, green ischia, patrics super giant, rdv, negronne, maltese falcon, lsu gold, lsu purple, lsu tiger, lounge d out, golden, celeste, black jack, black mission, brunswick, blue ischia, panache, strawberry latte, armenian, mvsb, col de dame, col de dame grise, col de dame noir, hardy chicago, peters honey, peti negri, unknowns, magnolia, kathleen black, labanese, and any othere except bt, and celeste improved bt or celeste are fine ,cuttings/plants zone 8a goldsboro north carolina. I'm proved Celeste or BT welcome!! figs growing brown turkey celeste and unknown yellow fig
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Extremely cold tonight and the heater in the greenhouse cant keep up, down to 41 in there.
I did grab two figs tonight, a green and black ischia.
The green ischia was spectacular for this time of year. Very jammy with a strong hint of berry, that is unusual for figs ripening in the cold. The black ischia was decent, somewhat sweet with just a bit of flavor.
I also started my first cuttings of the year that came from a trade with Dan. I am going to try Rich's perlite method to see how it works out.
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The figs in the greenhouse continue to ripen, although the plants are now showing signs of being affected by the cold... No new growth, yellowing leaves, etc.
Tonights menus was a Sodus Sicilian and an JH Adriatic. I also had another green ischia.
First up was the JH Adriatic. It was a beautiful fig with a bright green skin and dark red interior. It didnt get very jammy and wasnt very sweet. Maybe a 5/10.
Next up was the Sodus Sicilian. It continued to impress. Its texture reminds me of those fruit candy slices you get at a candy store. While not incredibly sweet, it had a very tasty flavor.
Then came the Green Ischia... I will let the pics speak for themselves...
Yeah, it was spectacular! Sweet jammy berry flavor.
I have a bunch of new varieties of cuttings rooting, some in perlite pots, the others in sphagnum moss. I will let folks know which does best. My search for a true martinenca rimada continues as the ebay auctions have gone well out of my price range!
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Our Battagglia figs from Bill M looks a lot like your GI. It's a great fig and is much different than our Viollette de Bordeaux and the Red Greek we have.
A plate of these 3 really seems to span the fig spectrum... Berry, sweet and strawberry.
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I agree Rich. People tend to get stuck on rare varieties, while common green ischia and vdb are two of the best figs out there. I do wish that my green ischia grew faster though. It is almost as slow as my black ischia.
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Originally Posted by johnnyq627 I agree Rich. People tend to get stuck on rare varieties, while common green ischia and vdb are two of the best figs out there. I do wish that my green ischia grew faster though. It is almost as slow as my black ischia.
Nice pics you have there of your GI btw.
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Looks good, Nick. You gained about a month, right?
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Originally Posted by Ampersand Looks good, Nick. You gained about a month, right?
At least Kelby. It was actually this week last year that my original greenhouse went airborne!
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Originally Posted by sppsp Hey Nick, those figs look spectacular. Enjoy. Your new greenhouse looks like it's well worth time, effort, and cost you put into building it.
Thanks Shailesh! Ive been trying to talk my wife into tearing it down and building a glass greenhouse as an addition to the house... No luck yet :)
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Speaking of warming up, Nick you can really add a great deal of heat to the main house with an attached green house or sun room. That is if the structure is on the south side and gets unobstructed sun all to most of the day. As long as the sun is out, our sun room heats the entire house. I just thought maybe you could use that for a little more ammunition.
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Great thread, Nick. Lots of good varietal info here, can see what a difference that greenhouse has made for season extension! My own long-term fig plans call for an attached greenhouse/conservatory.
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cis I tried that and she countered with the fact that we would have to cool more in the summer haha.
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Yes, it is very important to have a door to close in the summer. I open the doors from the house to the sun room early in the morning to get some fresh cool air, but by 9AM I usually have to close them. Mid day in the heat of summer, phew...I don't even want to walk through the sun room, it's like Arizona in there! Thanks for all the good pictures, and good job on the Sodus, it looks like a fig that should get around.
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What a difference a day makes...
I picked three figs for Thanksgiving for our guests to try... From left to right, Black Ischia, Sodus Sicilian, Figo Preto.
The preto was amazing as usual, a deep strawberry flavor that makes me want to burn all my other trees and grow nothing but pretos and black madeiras!
My Father actually preferred the Sodus Sicilianas the preto was too sweet for him and didnt remind him of the figs his grandfather used to grow.
The black ischia was good, but really misses the heat.
Then today, after two days of cloudy cold weather, I picked a black ischia and a barnisotte...
They were semi sweet and lacking flavor. More and more of the trees in the greenhouse have started to go dormant... It wont be too long now.
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A few more figs tonight including my first Col de Dame Blanco!
The cuttings are continuing to root in both perlite pots and sphagnum moss. A few of the cuttings in perlite pots are showing some green, but one has shriveled and none are showing roots at the sides of the pots yet. I did have some mold start to form, so I shot it with some water with a drop of dawn and propped one corner of the bin open with a pen and it seems to have corrected the problem.
I also have a few rooted plants going, a Black Madeira, a Vasilika Sika, and a Lake Spur.
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I miss eating figs, a greenhouse would be so nice to step into out of the cold. You are still picking some very rich looking figs. What did you think of your first CdDB? I had my first this year, it was good, but i don't think it reached its potential. Wasn't at the top for taste as I hear it should be. The two Preto I picked were my best flavored this year. The peaches and cream description of the Sodus Sicilian is delicious sounding. It wil be nice to hear more about this fig, and more reviews as others try it.
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The CdDB was very good. My Green Ischia still beat it though and I had another GI tonight which was just as delicious. The cold weather really doesnt bother it much.
The new power bank I put in the greenhouse keeps tripping letting the temp drop into the thirties and making the trees drop their leaves. Even the Sodus Sicilian has started to drop leaves, although the ends of the branches have fresh leaves and new figs. It's a powerhouse for sure, although I think I am going to try to get it to go dormant now, so I can spread a couple of cuttings around.
I checked the cuttings in the sphagnum moss tonight and a few are sending out roots already. I'm beginning to think trying Rich's perlite pot method may have been a mistake over my old ways, but still too early to tell.
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Another plate full of figs!
The Green Ischia was still delicious. The JH Adriatic was smooth and fruity. The Figo Preto was AMAZING! Even with the cold weather it was jammy with a berry punch on my tongue. I can't wait to have pretos and madeiras ripen together next year :drool:
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A Col de Dame Grise and Malta Black cutting rooted in the sphagnum moss and have been moved over to 50/50 perlite/potting soil pots in the humidity chamber.
A slight tug on some of the cuttings that were placed directly in perlite pots gives me hope that some of them are rooting, although a few I am losing hope in.
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The recent "warm" spell and sunny days have ripened a few more figs. The Black Ischia continues to produce decent figs and the Figo Preto now only has a couple of figs left... it will be a very sad day when they are all gone!
Black Ischia
Figo Preto
The Figo Pretos are still amazing. My wife made the statement of "wow I can't believe how some figs can taste so completely different!" I think we have a new fig-a-holic!
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Nice Nick, at least you will have something to look forward to next fig season.
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Wow nice job...those look great .....makes me want to run out and buy a greenhouse.....lol
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Wayne I hope to have MANY more next year! I plan to keep several Figo Pretos and Black Madeiras!
Tonight also marked another accomplishment... my first (and likely last) cuttings of my Sodus Sicilian!
Those two are now up for auction on ebay, but I did keep one small terminal cutting for myself.
First I got some new wax to try from the local nursery.
I used a tea candle tin and cut a piece of the wax, then used a spatula to hold it over the stove to melt the wax.
Then I dipped both ends of the ebay cuttings and the non terminal end of the one I was keeping.
Next, I dipped it in a hydrogen peroxide bath.
I am going to use a peat moss and perlite mixture to root this one in. The perlite only pots seem to dry out too fast.
I placed it in the humidity bins with the others and now we cross our fingers and see what happens!
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Originally Posted by deerhunter16b Wow nice job...those look great .....makes me want to run out and buy a greenhouse.....lol
Do it! I don't regret mine one bit! I just wish it was a 12 month greenhouse and connected to the house to make life easier.
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still working on convincing the wife, maybe one day...
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It is a sad day... my last figo preto fell. My second to last Sodus Sicilian as well.
Both were delicious!
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Originally Posted by sppsp There will be more happy days next year. Figs look very good. Savor the flavor.
Absolutely Shailesh! Now I need to start getting some more cuttings going for something to do over the winter!
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Don't feel too sad Nick, at this rate you'll be getting brebas in March or April. Congrats on a great year!
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I hope so Kelby! I didn't get a single spring breba this year!
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Another sad day... My last Sodus Sicilian fig fell! This fig was a champ this year. It grew from a cutting, put out one breba and several main crop figs. I really look forward to seeing what it can do next year!
I also got my first Flanders fig, although it needed longer on the tree.
The Black Ischia must be in the sweet spot in the greenhouse as it continues to grow and stay green in the corner where the sun first hits in the morning.
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My wife and I also exchanged Christmas gifts early since we will be traveling to see family next week and didnt want to drag all the presents along.
She gave me a few fig items I thought were awesome!
The first was a fig cookbook!
The second item was genious... I have been trying to find something I could use for when I go fig pickin or cleaning up leaves in the greenhouse as carrying a basket or bucket gets cumbersome. She bought me a fly fishing stripping basket and it's perfect! I would never have thought to use one of those for my figs!
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Nick, look at all that unused land behind you, at least enough for 2-300 fig plants.
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Originally Posted by waynea Nick, look at all that unused land behind you, at least enough for 2-300 fig plants.
I know! Unfortunately, I don't own any of it.
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Originally Posted by sppsp Perfect presents. Your wife really loves you. Happy holidays buddy.
Thanks Shailesh, Merry Christmas!
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