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Some good information on this variety I want to share

http://www.arthurleej.com/p-o-m-Aug08.html
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Thanks for the read.
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Do you have any afghan figs Sal? im in zone 10b so im curious as to if they'd grow well here.
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For those who read French :

http://olharfeliz.typepad.com/jardin/2013/07/ficus-afghanistanica-et-lorigine-du-figuier.html
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I have this afgan fig growing right now. I just re-potted it in some Pro mix HP since the miracle grow hasn't done anything for it. 
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a fig tree at the base of a douglas fir.
the soil is probably too acidic for optimal growth, and so it grows slowly and is stunted.
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Originally Posted by vitalucky
Some good information on this variety I want to share

http://www.arthurleej.com/p-o-m-Aug08.html


Realy correct is this not. It gives minimum 4 Populations.
-Johannis
-Tadschikisch Wild Fig
-Palmata
-Afghan Kultur Figs
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Seedlings from afghan Kultur Figs:

afghanischeKulturfeigen10012016klein.JPG 

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Here a picture with Gigant dried afghan Fruit. Thats the futures new Seedlings and new Kulture Variety.

Afghanische Riesenfeigenklein.jpg 

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Here a picture from New Variity Kunduz. He was born in Germany, by the River Lahn. Parrents from North-Afghanistan - Mother wild Fig. It is winterhard and have big Fruit as a Kultur Fig.

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Here the ripening Fruit from Kunduz: KunduzFruchtam Baum20082016klein.jpg 

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That is a very nice fig Paul. I am glad to see your effort lead to this successful outcome. How does it taste?

Mike in Hanover, VA
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That is a nice looking breba fig!
Did it produce a lot of brebas?  Does it also produce main crop?
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Erste,bitte enschuldigen meine schlechte Deutsch,inch habe nicht Deutsch geredet fur veilleicht mehr als 5 jahre,und ich habe etwas vergessen!.Die ist wunderschoe zu sehe,wirklich,ein neues speilart von europaischhe Feiges.Herzliches gluckwunsche!

Ich moechte gern diese neue Feige zu ausprobieren,was gut fur Deutschland sein sollte such gut fur Grossbrittanien.Haben sie etwas cuttings(Sprossen??) zu wechseln oder verkaufen?.

For the benefit of English speakers and just in case my German doesn't make any sense(take this as a warning to those who know other languages and don't use them),also auto correct on I phone does not like German!

This is a beautiful sight,really,a new variety of European fig,congratulations.

I would like to trial this new fig,what is good for Germany should also be good for England.Do you have cuttings to trade or sell?
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That is a very nice fig Paul. I am glad to see your effort lead to this successful outcome. How does it taste? Mike in Hanover, VA


The Taste was very good - sweet.
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That is a nice looking breba fig!
Did it produce a lot of brebas?  Does it also produce main crop?


This is a young Plant. That was the first Fruit. Just more small fruit, what this year not ripening. In Future they have shure more Fruit and maybe early, so that 2 times Fruit.
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Erste,bitte enschuldigen meine schlechte Deutsch,inch habe nicht Deutsch geredet fur veilleicht mehr als 5 jahre,und ich habe etwas vergessen!.Die ist wunderschoe zu sehe,wirklich,ein neues speilart von europaischhe Feiges.Herzliches gluckwunsche! Ich moechte gern diese neue Feige zu ausprobieren,was gut fur Deutschland sein sollte such gut fur Grossbrittanien.Haben sie etwas cuttings(Sprossen??) zu wechseln oder verkaufen?. For the benefit of English speakers and just in case my German doesn't make any sense(take this as a warning to those who know other languages and don't use them),also auto correct on I phone does not like German! This is a beautiful sight,really,a new variety of European fig,congratulations. I would like to trial this new fig,what is good for Germany should also be good for England.Do you have cuttings to trade or sell?


I like exchange. With that young Plant i cannot to much make cuttings. First i must make second Plants to save and make more Motherplants. Very much people like have the plant.
Mr. Kruchem(Hortensis) have much winterhart new Variitie, maybe in Future also Kunduz.
I surch Xinjiang yellow Fig Variity - Kashi Yellow Giant and Afghan Kultur Fig.

If you have a Garden you can also make new Variity. Pamir Import in Hamburg have afghan dried Kultur Figs. In 4 years they adult.
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This is my 2 years old Afghanistanica fig.Nice looking leaves,NOT very good producer,4 figs only this season,sweet enough,a berry flavor...time will tell if a keeper or not.
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Paul, I will do a search for Afghan dried figs, after seeing your results, it seems like a worthwhile project.

Marius, that plant is a keeper for ornamental value alone

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Paul,I don't have any of the varieties you are looking for I'm afraid.I too have access to fig seeds,only Turkish and Israili though here I have found.

I have some fresh Black Bursa figs from Tukey in the fridge,the seeds are viable.

How many fig trees did you grow to maturity to get 1 good new variety?.Do you have an idea of how many turned out to be Caprifig,how many are Smyrna type etc?.

I have a small patch of land(allotment) so probably have space for some so was planning to try growing from seed to see,but I already have lots of unknown variety figs from around my city to trial,might have some good unique ones there anyway.

I already grew from seed Apple,pear,plum,apricot,loquat etc, by comparison to those fruits 4 years is very quick for maturity.I will be an old man before I find out if the pear trees are any good!.

The work you are doing is very interesting,keep up the good work!
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Getting back to Sals post,interesting read,I wonder what that afghan miniature fig would do as a rootstock for common fig?,super dwarf fig trees?,could be useful,leaves are very pretty too.It would not surprise me if there has been genetic flow between the fig sub species,same has happened with Apple,pear,cherry etc,European breeders used various Malus species to introduce cold tolerance and also disease resistance into their breeding programmes
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Paul,I don't have any of the varieties you are looking for I'm afraid.I too have access to fig seeds,only Turkish and Israili though here I have found. I have some fresh Black Bursa figs from Tukey in the fridge,the seeds are viable. How many fig trees did you grow to maturity to get 1 good new variety?.Do you have an idea of how many turned out to be Caprifig,how many are Smyrna type etc?. I have a small patch of land(allotment) so probably have space for some so was planning to try growing from seed to see,but I already have lots of unknown variety figs from around my city to trial,might have some good unique ones there anyway. I already grew from seed Apple,pear,plum,apricot,loquat etc, by comparison to those fruits 4 years is very quick for maturity.I will be an old man before I find out if the pear trees are any good!. The work you are doing is very interesting,keep up the good work!


The Variety Bursa is from Smyrna Typ and must have Polution for ripening Fruit. So its no Chance that the Seedlings from Bursa parthenocarp. Many People in Tyrkye have Bursa, so they have destroyed the Genpool for Parthenocarpie. I like to have eytremly winterhard Figs with Parthenocarpie. So Seedlings from Afghanistan and Xinjiang better.
If you not find in Greeat Britain intersthing dried Figs, yo can buy by Pamir Import in Hamburg or direktly from Asia. By Ali Express you can by dried Figs from Xinjiang. Better look to big yellow kultur Figs from Xinjiang and not small wild Figs. You can have lucky with wild figs but kultur Figs have more Chance that the Seedlings have big Fruit.

young Kultur Hybrid:
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Paul, that fig really looks nice! I'm sure a lot of people will be interested in cuttings.

I didn't know that afghanistanica can produce edible fruit in our climate. In a nearby botanical garden there are some afghanistanicas growing. They only produce main crop and these figs tend to drop. I have never seen a ripe one.
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Paul, that fig really looks nice! I'm sure a lot of people will be interested in cuttings.

I didn't know that afghanistanica can produce edible fruit in our climate. In a nearby botanical garden there are some afghanistanicas growing. They only produce main crop and these figs tend to drop. I have never seen a ripe one.


Kunduz not realy Subspezie Afghanistanika. Mother is Tadschikisch Wildfig from North Afghanistan and from Father must com much Gene from Ficus Carica Kulturfig. In Afghanistan much regional Genpools, with much Kulturfigsgene.

The young Plant Roxana is half Kulturfig and half Afghanistanika-Johannis.
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Just i have become Dried Kultur Fruit from Afghanistan Masar i Sharif for my Seedling Projekt. Pollination from Tadschikisch Wild Fig and Hybrids. So can much Seedlings be Kultur Fig with big sweet Fruit and extremly winterhard, so as Kunduz.
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Hi Paul,i would be interested in swapping seeds with you,I could try growing a few of these hybrid Tajikstani wild fig/Cultivated figs for fun and also hopefully tasty figs.The only interesting seeds I have to swap in exchange are Potato seeds(Kartoffel).I have a mixed landrace population of potato,the population is part seedling part cultivated varieties which flower,they are allowed to cross freely.I save tubers and grow each year and have been selecting for flowering,size and disease resistance,there potatoes flower year after year and I don't have any problem with potato blight.I now have enough seeds to swap if you are interested
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I buy the Dried Fig from North Afghanistan from Orientbazar24. In the next Year i make very much more Seedlings and in 4 Years they new Variity ripening Fruits. I like also make Seedlings from Xinjiang, if i become driet Fruit from Xinkiang.
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