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I had heard of an amazing unknown fig from a friend in the Point Loma neighborhood of San Diego (I know, another?!!!) last year and grabbed some cuttings from the owner.  I tasted my first fig from the mother tree on August 24 of this summer (2015) and had the first fig from my small 5 gallon pot tree on December 14, 2015.  The weather has been cold and rainy lately (not typical for San Diego) so I was surprised it wasn't watery at all.  They were both delicious figs.

I am amazed how much these figs look like Black Madeira/ Figo Preto.  I have both and it is neither.  I can say with certainty that this fig tree was brought to San Diego by the original owner from Portugal.  He still lives in the home and I have spoken to him several times about the tree. He does not know the variety name so it is officially an unknown.  He hadn't heard of a "Figo Preto" either.

Regarding the Point Loma area of San Diego, it is very close to the ocean, which has typical overcast/foggy weather in the early to mid summer.  Not exactly a prime location for figs so if one does well here, chances are it will do well in most other areas.

If you want to call it anything I'm thinking "Craven's Craving" since the owner has never shared cuttings before and I will hopefully be distributing it to the fig community this winter.  I'll let the pictures speak for themselves.  The taste was delicious, even the December ripening fig!

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More pics...

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You can see the comparison with Black Madeira/ Figo Preto hereIMG_0509.jpg 




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Looks like a winner!  Look me up if you would like to trade this winter.
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Padsfan, those are delicious looking. Great find and great story. Yummy; )

If your making a want list, please add me. I would love to grow this out :) thanks
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NICE FIND!
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Padsfan, it looks absolutely deliscious!! Congratulations!!
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Yes very cool that you have some of the history here padsfan.  I love the trees that people brought with them from the old country.  A lot of magic in that.  Alas my great grandmother brought horseradish from Austria!  Not figs.  ;-(  I showed this post to my friends in my second family in Point Loma off of Rosecrans and Goldsmith, they would love to have a local fig.  Let me know if when there might be cuttings available.  So cool to be adding to the figgy gene pool daily it seems around here.  
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That's picture are killing me
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Looks amazing. Please contact me when cuttings are available.
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Special fig.  Congratulations!
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Would Love the chance to grow that one
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oh wow looks amazing. Count me in for cuttings!
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Absolutely beautiful fig! If only I could taste things through my computer screen!
I'd love it if you'd consider me for cuttings.
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I love the Point Loma area of San Diego.  Great find!!
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Add me to the list!!!!!!
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And yet another one for the list. 

Looks amazing with a story that matches, thank you for sharing. 
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Do you have photos of the leaves?  The shape of the fruit, especially in post #4, does look like Black Madeira/Figo Preto to my eyes, FWIW.
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Do you have photos of the leaves?  The shape of the fruit, especially in post #4, does look like Black Madeira/Figo Preto to my eyes, FWIW.


Harvey - if i'm not mistaken from his wording (edited), i think that was an actual BM/Preto picture of his, he was just using as an example to compare against posts #1-3. So you got a good eye ;)

Agreed - would love to see leaf shape though.
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Wow sign me up for a cutting if you plan on selling some!
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Do you have photos of the leaves?  The shape of the fruit, especially in post #4, does look like Black Madeira/Figo Preto to my eyes, FWIW.


Harvey - if i'm not mistaken from his wording (edited), i think that was an actual BM/Preto picture of his, he was just using as an example to compare against posts #1-3. So you got a good eye ;)

Agreed - would love to see leaf shape though.


Thanks, I didn't catch that, start drooling at photos, what can I say, LOL.

I though the neck of the fruit in the top photo of post #3 also looked like BM/FP and spots on the skin.  Hard to draw much conclusion about fruit appearance late in the season.
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Put me on the list too, it's getting rather long! Looks awesome!
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To clarify- they are all pictures of what I will be calling "Craven's Craving".  None of the pictures are of Black Madeira/Figo Preto.  My Black Madeira/Figo Preto fruits do not crack like this one does, as seen in the 3rd picture. Sorry but I do not have any leaf pictures.

I will hopefully be collecting cuttings around the winter solstice.  Stay tuned to this thread for updates!
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I would try real hard to get some leaf pics. That would help a lot and possibly id it.
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Just realized this is where Preto was discovered. I wonder if there is a coincidence somewhere. I believe the Preto is no longer there.
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Oh wow.

Here's hoping that you get some cuttings. Good luck!
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Hi Padsfan.
Nice find! And nice story. The figs look delicious. Please include me on the cuttings list.
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Update- I just got a few cuttings today.  Sadly there weren't many available.  It's a very old tree and so is the owner!  I just hope this variety doesn't have the same fate of Figo Preto.

The cuttings are pretty thick but I have several tip cuttings- that are also thick HAHA.  I will update this thread this weekend.  This is the first time they are being offered to the fig community :-)
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Would Love to be on the Trade list

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I'm interested looks like a winner
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Yes me too. My friends in Point Lona are very interested in having a cutting of this local fig. ;-)
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Daisy's IBT cuttings will be available in January/February along with a few Lampeira Parda.  
Wishes for Martinenca Rimada, Black Ischia, I258, CddRoja, Jolly Tiger, Your favorite Figgy!
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Please add me to the list of any are left.
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Any more left? I would be interested too.
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Woukd youadd me to the list, please? Thanks in advance!
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Looks like I'm a little late. If there's room, I too would be interested in being on the list 
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I'm interested in being on the list.  Somehow, I'm not feeling too lucky :)
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Does anyone know if the fig requires the wasp?
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I would like to be on the list as well. If there aren't enough to go around this time hopefully there will be more next year
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I also Like to be on the List...
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I don't have many cuttings available but am selling the extras.  The cost is $30 for two cuttings including shipping. Remember they are thick at about a half inch in diameter.  All cuttings will have at least 3 buds.  

Paypal accepted, first PMs will receive first priority.  There has been HUGE interest with this tree and I would like to get the cuttings shipped out this week. I hope it does as well for everyone as it does here!
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PM sent. Thanks!
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Yes me too.  PM sent.  Thank you for working to save and share this gem also.  Best, Jodi
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In the book the "The Meaning of Trees" it is said the fig regulates the heart and that the true essence of Figs is...food for the soul.
Daisy's IBT cuttings will be available in January/February along with a few Lampeira Parda.  
Wishes for Martinenca Rimada, Black Ischia, I258, CddRoja, Jolly Tiger, Your favorite Figgy!
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PM sent!!
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Pm sent
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Sent you a pm! Thanks for offering this to the community!
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My New Year resolution was to NOT add to my fig collection and in abject resignation, I surrender. Put me on the list. I am perfectly OK if I must wait for next year. That way I can argue that I kept my resolution. Maybe I'll get some horseradish instead.
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Point Loma is a fig mecca!
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Update-  I'm almost out of cuttings for this variety.  First come, first served!
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Point Loma is a fig mecca!


I actually like Point Loma as the name or Point Loma unk. But that is not my call.
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