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BB10 from Cajun Dan

I got caught up in buying the BB10 from Cajun Dan off Ebay earlier this year.  The auction was for 3 cuttings but he sent 4.  They were longer than what I usually root, so I cut about 3 inches off each one and tried rooting them also.  Three of the four long cuttings rooted and 1 of the four short ones rooted.


Like I needed more cuttings to grow.

I'll take one off your hands, if you're looking to sell.

I would take one also, depending on price.

My email address is robertcharpe@gmail.com

Bob Harper

Mine is my best grower. Grows like crazy!

That's some nice growth. My plant is the size of your small one.

I acquired BB10 cuttings from Wills (ourFigs), Dan (via an exchange) and Brian (CajunB) and am rooting all three to compare them against Sultane which they may either be the same as or closely related.... Will be interesting to see the results of growing all of them together in the same medium, same grow conditions, same fertilizer, same everything (except one may be sitting in a pot to the left of the other)....

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Originally Posted by tsparozi
I acquired BB10 cuttings from Wills (ourFigs), Dan (via an exchange) and Brian (CajunB) and am rooting all three to compare them against Sultane which they may either be the same as or closely related.... Will be interesting to see the results of growing all of them together in the same medium, same grow conditions, same fertilizer, same everything (except one may be sitting in a pot to the left of the other)....




Can't wait for the results.

Any cuttings left please think of me.

I've got both Dan's and Will's BB10. Neither has fruit so I can't be sure they are the same but the leaves look very similar.

Dan's BB10 from cuttings I bought this spring. One plant in ground in the middle. The two outer plants with the airlayers are in one gallon pots. I guess you could say BB10 is a grower..!! I hope it's a fruiter when it settles down.

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This is the in ground BB10 from Wills.

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Leaves of both.

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Beatiful plant.

too bad you started Air Layers before them fruiting.

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Originally Posted by FigWhisperer
too bad you started Air Layers before them fruiting.


Well I don't have air layers on everything. Basically half the growth doesn't have air layers.

It wasn't going to fruit this yr regardless of what I did. BB10 doesn't appear to be a variety that's highly precocious.

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Well I don't have air layers on everything. Basically half the growth doesn't have air layers.

It wasn't going to fruit this yr regardless of what I did. BB10 doesn't appear to be a variety that's highly precocious.
the point of my comment was: if the plant hasn't fruited yet, you don't expect for the A.L.  to fruit for a long time. I assumed you knew this.

Okay -- I'm a new figlet in this forum and I've had exactly one successful air layer. I have never seen this kind of "column" air layering before. Am I seeing this correctly, that you have several air layers atop each other on a single trunk? I would have thought that the top ones would suffer for the accumulated disruption below. Please advise, I'm so intrigued.  Thanks.

I have a couple of these multiple air layers going right now... but this one is my big experiment:
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In theory, they should root top-down... I should see in a few weeks.


Just throwing it out there in re Comments 11 and 13.  I air layered a Green Ischia last year.  This year the air layer had a gumball sized fig on it while the mother plant and siblings from last year have much, much, much smaller figs on them.  Maybe it was a fluke. 

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Originally Posted by Bethens
Okay -- I'm a new figlet in this forum and I've had exactly one successful air layer. I have never seen this kind of "column" air layering before. Am I seeing this correctly, that you have several air layers atop each other on a single trunk? I would have thought that the top ones would suffer for the accumulated disruption below. Please advise, I'm so intrigued.  Thanks.


You are seeing it correctly. I did it last yr and it worked. My thought is the bottom one should root first mainly because it was put on first, several weeks before the top one. But also because the bottom wood is more mature. The other beautiful multiple above by figfriendly looks like it might be on last yrs wood. That might behave differently. Mine are on plants rooted this spring so they are on current seasons wood.

I don't do anything to the stem it's put on. No girdling or scraping. We'll see how it works. I'll have to wait for roots on all before cutting off anything. That's a disadvantage.

The air layers are in one gallon plastic water jugs. They have a handle to tie to the fence. The total plants are over 6ft tall and the only roots right now are in the bottom ~1 gallon pot unless one of the AL has rooted. The top of ALs are open so I can water every week or two. By rooting in one gal jugs I don't have to up pot the AL when it's removed. But that requires a strong fence to tie everything to.

I do have to water the bottom container a couple times a day to support all that top from the bottom container.

Steve you have an amazing green thumb!  Six feet of growth from a cutting rooted this spring and only in a 1 gal pot is very impressive. My air layers from last summer in 2 gal pots are not even close to that level of growth.

Is what you're showing for BB10 typical of most cuttings you root and grow?  If you're in a mood so share your growing techniques I'm all ears :-)

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Originally Posted by cjccmc
Steve you have an amazing green thumb!  Six feet of growth from a cutting rooted this spring and only in a 1 gal pot is very impressive. My air layers from last summer in 2 gal pots are not even close to that level of growth.

Is what you're showing for BB10 typical of most cuttings you root and grow?  If you're in a mood so share your growing techniques I'm all ears :-)


Thank you for the kind words..!!

Most of them will grow like that if I push them. Pushing means lots of high nitrogen fertilizer and water. It didn't really seem like I pushed that much this yr. BB10 is a very vigorous cultivar. It is a two edged sword. The wood on trees like that doesn't mature out well in the fall. You end up with lots of green wood. And it's no way to grow fruit.

There is no secret sauce like I read all about here from time to time. Good well drained media, water, and fertilizer does the trick for rapid growth. For fruit I want a low to moderate vigor tree with much less water in the tree and fruit. Less water is the key to growing high brix fruit of all kinds.

I agree with Steve. I when I got mine it was small and shot up 3 feet with in two months? I got mine in May and it has 3 suckers rooting and 3 figs on one side already. I'm waiting to mess with mine. I want to enjoy it to see what it does but I'm going to have to remove at least one limb. I'm interested in how your project turns out Steve :D. I believe I got a grafted BM/LSU Brandy from you off ebay? Love that plant!

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Originally Posted by fignutty

There is no secret sauce like I read all about here from time to time. Good well drained media, water, and fertilizer does the trick for rapid growth.


There must be an art to tweaking those 3 things to get consistent success, along with lots of other judgement calls that are not easy to describe. Congrats on getting your BB10's off to a great start!

I know from experience that transforming a cutting into a thriving 1 gal tree is not a slam dunk, even when you're giving it all you've got.

fattyfigs I'm glad you like your grafted Black Madeira plant..!! That would be a good one to airlayer and get an own rooted BM.

cjccmc thank you again for the kind words. Experience and attention to detail goes a long ways in this business.

Hi Steve
Nice work on the BB 10 project, I appreciate your investigative skills as I am also growing a couple of Dan's. They dont look as fantastic as yours, but they're coming along. Very curious to read about your findings
Cheers,
Coop

I like it as the "black & white" lol I have 4 Black Madeiras for various types. Maybe in the future when it gets big. As now I'm enjoying it as is. I just ordeered the Black Koura from Bass, I hear it is similar so I want to compare them all ;)

Steve,

how long before you think you will see roots on your air layers?  I have a bb10 and thinking about putting one on.

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