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Black Beauty 10

Call it evidence that he would like to see as much chaos and confusion here as he can stir up.

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Originally Posted by Charlie
Dan replied.  Didn't name anyone but verified he had two starts disappear from his year a couple years ago. 

Hoosierbanana was that for me?  Stand up and say so if it was and I'll be happy to reply but for now it's simply a generic bashing without a place to land.  You must have somebody in mind.

As for the rest of you BB-10 owners, I hope if it matters, you can find sufficient evidence that allows you to feel comfortable with your possession of it.

For the thief and those knowing, your day is coming. You need to make it right with Dan. 
The most famous stolen fig in circulation is Ponte Tresa, that tree has been hacked to a nub by tourist and from what I understand you could get to cuttings without trespassing. The scum bag that stole Dans fig is guilty of trespassing and stealing. Risky business! I am glad mine is legit.

If the full story of what happened is not known, it would be unfair to rush to any judgement on either side. When friends go through a “divorce”, a lot of crazy drama happens on both sides between two usually good people. What is known is that an angry Dan has chosen to cut himself off from everyone in the fig community for years and only emerges on eBay when there is money to be made.

The question remains: Is this a fig worth the hundreds of dollars people are throwing at it? Will it be good where you live? Will you even be able to root the cuttings? Some figs are notoriously hard to root.

With so many wonderful fig trees to grow, these Don Quixote quests for the perfect fig tree really say more about people’s personal issues than about figs. At least that's the way it seems to me. My own quests have come up with some really great fig trees so I can't complain. 

It is my understanding that Dan does not own the original mother tree, I could be wrong, maybe I misunderstood his blogs. So if there is a mother tree elsewhere, is it possible that other cuttings from the owner of this tree be gifted or sold to other people? I definitely give all the credit due to Dan and his extensive research of this variety and wish him and us the best in getting this variety distributed to everyone, but I wish he had done this much earlier. My best wishes go out to Dan and everyone who buys from him.

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If the full story of what happened is not known, it would be unfair to rush to any judgement on either side. When friends go through a “divorce”, a lot of crazy drama happens on both sides between two usually good people. What is known is that an angry Dan has chosen to cut himself off from everyone in the fig community for years and only emerges on eBay when there is money to be made.

The question remains: Is this a fig worth the hundreds of dollars people are throwing at it? Will it be good where you live? Will you even be able to root the cuttings? Some figs are notoriously hard to root.

With so many wonderful fig trees to grow, these Don Quixote quests for the perfect fig tree really say more about people’s personal issues than about figs. At least that's the way it seems to me. My own quests have come up with some really great fig trees so I can't complain. 


Mara, this could be his intention. He was a jerk to me and to many. I don't believe a word he says without some type of proof.

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Originally Posted by CAJUNB
I received my BB10 cuttings from a friend of mine,he bought the lot where the original tree is located  ,the original owner was a professor who worked on the LSU fig propagation breeding program..........the professor is deceased so no one knows exactly THE orgin of this fig,all I know that's its the best fig I have ever tasted IMHO........

Finally, someone who has actually tasted the mythic fig. Why was it the best fig you have ever tasted? Could you be a little more specific? Why is it better than Black Madeira/Figo Preto, RdB, VdB or CdDN?

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https://s24.postimg.org/edv3rn6wl/bb_10.jpg

Very high intense sweet berry taste........my first bite like to knock me off my feet

Thanks so much for sharing this info and the pictures. That's wonderful that you enjoy it. It sounds like a special fig.

It's good to know Dan's still alive.

I have bought from 2 different source, CajunB and WillsC. Hope I will successfully growing this great fig.

Three little sticks selling for $100 on ebay. Meanwhile there are probably a number of homeowners in south Louisiana trimming a trash can full of these branches and putting them out with the garbage. Good marketing adds a ton of value!

Looks like this is the hot fig for 2017. Glad this is getting out to members of the fig community. Thanks goes to
Dan, Willis, CajunB & Joe. Any pictures apart from Dan's pic's. I like the info provided by CajunB regarding the
Mother tree

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Three little sticks selling for $100 on ebay. Meanwhile there are probably a number of homeowners in south Louisiana trimming a trash can full of these branches and putting them out with the garbage. Good marketing adds a ton of value!

From Brian CajunB( I received my BB10 cuttings from a friend of mine,he bought the lot where the original tree is located ,the original owner was a professor who worked on the LSU fig propagation breeding program..........the professor is deceased so no one knows exactly THE orgin of this fig,all I know that's its the best fig I have ever tasted IMHO........) I highly doubt there are any of this variety being trimmed and thrown in the trash.

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I highly doubt there are any of this variety being trimmed and thrown in the trash.

You're probably right Brian, but pretty funny post just the same!

CajunB, does your friend who owns the tree like them as much as you?  Imagine having a large tree of beauties like that on the lot you purchased!

A point I'd like to add to this conversation. In the past, When Dan had items up for sale or auction he used the proceeds to donate to children's causes.  His motivations are not for the sake of making a simple profit.

And, yes, I threw down for the cuttings.  Better to support the kids than get robbed blind by my poker buddies :D

Every year I make baby fig trees  for my students.  If these all take some kid is going to walk out of my class next year possessing one of the most coveted figs in figdom. And they'll have no clue what they've got.  And that in itself makes it worthwhile.  Hell, I may root a hundred of them over the next few years and plant them all over downtown for the homeless to eat from hahahah ...

 Then again, there's another reason for getting these... I lost most of my trees and all of my cuttings I bought from y'all good folk last year in Hurricane Matthew between flooding and my fridge dying on me and ruining my cutting stash... a way to salve that wound by getting something I know will be excellent and productive...

 "Thou shalt not covet thy neighbors' fig tree". Okokok, I know, not in the original text..but it should be.  :D Y'all have a blessed day....


In a culture like south Louisiana's where people are neighborly, how is it that a reportedly exceptional fig like BB-10 does not get widely shared between family and friends? I believe it is grown by many people who just call it something like "the black fig I got from my wife's Uncle Mike". Only 1 in a million of us are fig enthusiasts (sorely misunderstood by our spouses) who regularly read these forums. Normal people just can't rattle off the names of twenty different varieties :-)  I think a lot of people who have eaten this fruit for decades would be surprised to learn that their tree would not be discovered until 2011. Kind of like the locals in the New World were not discovered until 1492.

So when I wrote earlier that piles of BB-10 end up in the trash I think it is literally true. The people discarding these have no idea they own what is possibly one of the best figs on the planet or that a very small segment of society would pay six months of beer money for their pile of sticks :-)

It looked like people in the original thread were quick to point out it looks very much like Kathleen Black/Noire De Caromb.

BB 10

http://files.websitetoolbox.com/30989/1162429

Noire De Caromb

http://www.galgoni.com/Images/016/016-02-M.JPG

I'm not seeing any major difference between them in pictures, that shows its not Noire De Caromb.

It would be nice to see someone who has Kathleen Black/Noire De Caromb and now has BB 10. To post some pictures in the future, of them growing side by side and showing it is a unique variety.

Many people have praised Kathleen Black/Noire De Caromb, for it high quality fruit.

It will be interesting to see how BB 10 rates against top figs in many people collections, now that it is officially released.

Hi Sid,

People refer to SoCal as fig heaven, but if so, we are in "lower" heaven compared to your location. Are you now growing BB-10? I would love to see how it does in your area.

IIRC Wills C said his BB-10 is different from all 400 varieties he grows.

Here's some friendly advice if you want BB-10 now.  Buy it now. http://www.ebay.com/itm/Dans-Black-Beauty-10-BB-10-fig-cuttings-three-cuttings-/282349372641?hash=item41bd5584e1:g:fMoAAOSwopRYlARB

I'm not sure how many he plans on selling. If you got some it was a wise choice.

That's the good news. 

I can't bring myself to say the bad news. 

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Originally Posted by Figgysid1
It looked like people in the original thread were quick to point out it looks very much like Kathleen Black/Noire De Caromb. BB 10 http://files.websitetoolbox.com/30989/1162429 Noire De Caromb http://www.galgoni.com/Images/016/016-02-M.JPG I'm not seeing any major difference between them in pictures, that shows its not Noire De Caromb. It would be nice to see someone who has Kathleen Black/Noire De Caromb and now has BB 10. To post some pictures in the future, of them growing side by side and showing it is a unique variety. Many people have praised Kathleen Black/Noire De Caromb, for it high quality fruit. It will be interesting to see how BB 10 rates against top figs in many people collections, now that it is officially released.
Look up De la Reina MP by Axier and check out the pictures and description and post link if you can because I can't.

Posting with Dan's permission, exact copy of an email he sent me awhile ago.  I almost feel bad for a lot of people and actually do for some.  This is going to rock some boats for sure but getting to the truth is seldom pretty. 

Hey Charlie,
 
I'm lmao at what was posted on fig4fun forum. The fig (Cajun b) posted IS NOT a BB10. Brian's fig has no neck.....BB10 has a long neck......look at the pictures.  I knew the professor Brian refers to when he was alive. I talked with him often like I did with many others who were in the fig breeding program at LSU. I know many growers who were given special selections by Dr. O'Rourke himself for them to trial in their orchards. Many that the current people at LSU Di not know existed.  know exactly where the professor obtained that particular fig tree that Brian references.....no one else does.....but I sure do. 
 
Brian's is not a LSU fig and it is not a BB10. I wrote about both figs cultivars on my Cajun fig blog and posted pictures of each. Brian's unknown's taste is super delicious but it has a bad productivity (FMV?) problem. The current owner of the property is named Rock.
 
As I've stated in my eBay listing, I alone know the original tree which produced the ~20 year old mother tree from which I  obtained the cuttings for my sales on eBay. I alone know it's original origin and, stated, am 100% certain it is different than all known European/Mediterranean in the US. It's DNA profile is different that all others because of how it evolved in isolation over the centuries.
 
I alone have invested years of experience growing this fig and was able to give its detailed growing and fruiting characteristics......yet other forum members come along knowing nothing about it and claiming its virtues......get it yet hossierbanna (aka Brent)? That old fig forum post of mine that you quoted was right on the money back then as it is today. Some things never change.
 
Dan 
Semper Fi-cus



Thanks for posting Charlie, that makes me happy. I bought 2 from Dan because I know this fig is going to be off the chart.I am glad I got the real one, last time I checked he had 2 more better jump on this deal.

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Thanks for posting Charlie, that makes me happy. I bought 2 from Dan because I know this fig is going to be off the chart.I am glad I got the real one, last time I checked he had 2 more better jump on this deal.


According to another email from Dan, he never sold or gave it to anyone and nobody was allowed to see his orchard.  That means if any or all previously sold cuttings that didn't come straight from Dan fruit as BB-10, then they had to be from the starts that were stolen from him.    

WOWEE.... I've been around long enough to know all about this plant and its long history with Dan and his days here and at Cajun figs.
I would like to wish all who bought this storied plant the best of luck with rooting and growing and please keep us updated on your results.

Intriguing to say the least

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If anyone needs an independant tester, please send me your version and I will be glad to compare them not only against each other but against other varieties which might be close.
The only disclaimer is that I will keep all the figs.

This variety has a very distinct leaf shape. Mine are from Wills and the leaves are identical. Dan needs to get a life.

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