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My Black Madeira finaly ripened,the taste was different from all my other figs.Here are pics of it.
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Congratulations Remis, looks like it's on it's way now. Beautiful pictures! Thanks!
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Remis, thats a great picture. Sure made my mouth water.
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Hi Remis,
very very nice and hoped the taste was good as it looked.
Remis be very careful if you wheel your plants in and out in very early spring .
I do each season with all my plants , my 30 inch Maderia did not like it with temps in high 40s it killed it to soil level .
Again very nice and shows what can be done here in Illinois growing them in containers  -
way to go !!!
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Very nice job Remis 
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It certainly has a unique flavor. I'm glad that it ripened for you. 
My Black Madeira was very early this year. It started in beginning of September. It still has a few ripening now. Last year it wasn't dark since it ripened very late, this year it's almost black.
Here's how mine looked this year:




Compared to last year:
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One beast (good) fig to reproduce (aka., root)...
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Beautiful photos Remis. Do you mind if I ask what camera you used?
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Nice pixes and yes ,_A new confirmation,that Madeira black will ripe in the north,as the poster live in Chicago area.
I am frustrated,I also had 3 ripe figs,that dissapeared suddenly overnight,just the morning when I intended to pick them and take a pix too.
It was before Oct 1,I think.
Now the rest of them about 6 do not show any sign they are getting ripe soon.
I am going to remove half of them , today in hope of helping the rest.!
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leon_edmond , I use my Nikon D300 camera.
Herman ,this is Black Madeira`s first year as I started it from cutting this past Spring hope next year It will ripen earlier.
At this time of year I still have some figs on my trees ripening ,but thats because my trees are in their 1 st season next year they will be erlier.
From cutings started this year I had chase to taste of falloving:
Sal El (16 figs)
VdB (12 figs)
Chicago Hardy (4 figs)
Marseilles Vs (6 figs)
Black Madeira (2 figs)
Excel there are 3 figs ripening (will be ready in about 3days).
I think it was pretty good as for 1 st year. Next year should be very good as my trees will be biger.
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Anyone know of a source for Black Madeira other than UC Davis?

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"different"

different good, different bad, or different (???)
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I had doubts that Black Madeira would fruit for me in middle Europe.
As temperatures dropped in the last weeks very much, and it rains, I removed 3 unripe figs from this one. After cutting them through I had to realize that they where already red inside, 
They were not so far from ripening. Next year with hopefully better weather.
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Last (I think, there is still a green one on) Black Madeira ripened today. Definitely at or near the top for taste. I still don't have a good description for the taste. The outside isn't much, but the inside tastes like concentrated jam.
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Joe,

Right about now your only hope would/could be Jon at Encanto Farms.
Yes, right here.

He should have some available sometime in February.
Keep your eyes and ears open during that time. He will inform us all on the date he will list what he will be selling.

I would  contact him ( just for the bugging him sake ) now and ask him if at all possible put you on a list for this variant. No promises I'm sure but it's worth the try.

jusalda,

Thanks for posting these fine pics. Very tasty looking figs indeed.
Congrats!
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hi
im from madeira island portugal and i have Black Madeira fig tree  cuttings for sale if any one is interested !! just go to my ebay page:  http://www.ebay.com/itm/181047661885?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649 my ebay username is ze_zx
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I wonder how far is black madeira from the figo preto.... beautiful pictures...
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(re post#19) HmmM! [Edit: see my post #38]

What you showed is one of Jon's Black Mission fig pics....
(just look at skin-cracks finger-print! row2.pic3)
http://figs4fun.com/Thumbnail_Black_Mission.html

And what happened to the (USA) USPS Priority Mail envelope pic,
already used and marked with a different fig variety name on it?
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First pic is NdC
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(re post#21)


HI GORGI
I BORN IN MADEIRA ISLAND PORTUGAL AND I LIVE HERE 40YEARS IF I DONT NOW WAT IS A BLACK MADEIRA FIG ,I DONT NOW NOTHING ,I HAVE FIGS TREE ,YES THAT IS TRUE THAC PIC IS NOT MY, BUT BLACK MADEIRA FIG IS THE ONE IS ON PIC #19 , I DONT HAVE ANY PIC FROM FIGS, I JUST GO TO GOOGLE AND SEARCH THANKS MY FRIEND
 THE NAME OF BLACK MADEIRA FIG IN PORTUGUES IS BREBA PRETA
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I agree, Madeira Island must be a very nice/pleasant place to live in.

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gluglo, what part of Madeira are you from?  My family came from Canhas almost 100 years ago.  Are you close?  I visited there in late October 2004 and don't recall seeing any figs but wasn't looking for them specifically either.  You use the name breba negra.  Would you also use the name figo preto?  Do you see more than one type of black fig in Madeira?
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Yes, my BM is from Jon`s. 
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hi HarveyC
im from jardim do mar, small village near the sea , the place you came from canhas  is 15min from my place by car, canhas is very high place is on top of montanhas you dont find figs tree dare, the best figs tree is near the sea hot places ,the best fig is from the sea villages hot places ....we have green fig very honey and soft , we have yellow fig very sweet, and figo roxo is a hard fig not so much honey but sweet also, and we have one is like mixed green and black, and the breba the black madeira fig the most expenseve fig in madeira ...well now you see im from madeira island ...HarveyC nice talk to you see you around i must go now thanks ...abraço
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Hi HarveyC
im from jardim do mar, small village near the sea , the place you came from canhas  is 15min from my place by car, canhas is very high place is on top of montanhas you dont find figs tree dare, the best figs tree is near the sea hot places ,the best fig is from the sea villages hot places ....we have green fig very honey and soft , we have yellow fig very sweet, and figo roxo is a hard fig not so much honey but sweet also, and we have one is like mixed green and black, and the breba the black madeira fig the most expenseve fig in madeira ...well now you see im from madeira island
HarveyC nice talk to you see you around i must go now thanks ...abraço


I edited your post a little in my quote so that the formatting isn't corrupted.  Thanks for the information.  If you ever get a chance, it would be nice to see photographs of some of the old fig trees from there like the mother tree you described above.

So you realize, it is not considered acceptable to use the photographs of others without their permission so that is why see complaints about that.  It has happened before and it is taken seriously.
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Kinda of like showing a picture of Angelina Jolie in your dating profile and really looking like Sandra Bernhard.
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Nice analogy, Dominick.  He might have a pretty good fig here but listing them as Galacia Negra, RdB, etc. is obviously misleading.
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ouch.. that's a good one dominick.. lol
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Cultural differences, believe me as a Portuguese Interpreter I meet these situations all the time. I came to the conclusion it is the 'Portuguese' in all of us that get us in trouble, at times, innocent moves, just to please, or engage and boom - just back fires!  Once, over the phone, the speaker after trying to get a real answer from the "Port. Speaker", finally had enough and said :"no wonder the Portuguese lost their Empire".... that is how I feel at times, my entire Empire is lost, due to not 'conforming' with rules I  didn't even know existed.  
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Hello everyone been awhile since I have been on the forum, there seems to be some confusion to this thread. Figo Preto and Bêbera Preta are not the same fig. They look different taste different ripen at different times leaves are different and Figo Preto rarely fully ripens its Breba crop unlike Bêbera Preta.

Gluglo I too am from Madeira and there is more than one black and one white fig infact if you read the Elucidário Madeirense you can read all about it.

I do believe figo Preto & Black madeira are the same.
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my Figo Preto and Black Maderia are both too young for me to tell. i should be able to tell if they behave differently in my zone this summer. 
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Nelson, that is the best thing I read in this trail...because I have my cuttiest figo preto... love it.
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Fig tree : very old tree from madeira island
NAME:FIGO ESCOTIO

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MADEIRA FIG TREE VERY OLD:
NAME:FIGO SAO MARTINHO

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 DO YOU KNOW THE NAME OF THIS FIG TREE?
  
  
  
  
  
  

 

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The original post#19 is now just a [confusing]/missing/[deleted] "hole" in this thread!



Edit:
Here is a copy of the deleted gluglo's post #19...
The PIC (imagesCA4MTYLM.jpg) pointed-to, was no other than one of Jon's Black Mission figs as I (+ve) ID'd above in my (current) post #20.

Even his initial avatar was a copy of such a Black Mission fig; now it was even changed to look like some human skull(?).


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THIS IS ORIGINAL BLACK MADEIRA FIG, LOOK THE PIC, I HAVE A MADEIRA FIG TREE HAS MORE THAN  150YEARS OLD TRISA AVO, GRAN..GRAND..GRAND FATHER, SHE GIVE-ME MORE THAN 150KG PER YEAR OF FIGS

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San Martinho is gorgeous, love its white wood. 
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Looks awesome Remis, can't wait for mine to fruit!
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Latest new:
gluglo just had posted a new thread with nothing more other than pure self advertising and $$$'s in his eyes.
Just after a first-responder f4f-member (you know you are) told him to (basically) PO;
that same thread suddenly vanished!?

Some serious salt-grains may be needed here....
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I would say more but... I will just say this.

I wish this would stop especially with how I feel about the 'Black Madeira' Name being misused.  Just don't want there to be any confusion.
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All I can only say that the first-responder name (which I saw) started with an "s" (not Dom).
Hope that this person will back me up if this ever becomes a nasty issue.

Well, we all heard the story of another individual selling BM twigs that
much later fruited 'white' figs (oh, what a trill if Martin was the victim! he was not).
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Saw the post as well. I think that is why Newer members need to understand the importance of this because a few have been defrauded out of $100's.
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George some members would get a kick out of that .  ; )

Jennifer a real cheap DNA test.
Grow em side by side in same potting mix observe them and also do a taste test over a good period of time this should help .
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(Gosh darn it)

I use suppose to "edit" my post NOT "delete". Dang it! Stupid iPhones. My fingers were to quick. I hate it when this happens.

Edit: I am willing to fork up DNA result, great for research anyway.
(I forgot what I wrote verbatim, but overall this is what I meant)

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I was replying some tp your message and then poof its gone !
Look above your just now posted message if you wish.
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Saw the post as well. I think that is why Newer members need to understand the importance of this because a few have been defrauded out of $100's.


Sounds very compassionate of you Dom. I am sure they will be careful, if not, well... It' will be a good lesson for members NOT to ever do it again.

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I googled everything I could find on DNA testing.

Someone PM to get it done.

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Here you go
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