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Brooklyn White main crop

Good to know, Pete, thanks.

My White Marseilles PP and Italian Honey have grown back from the ground in near identical manner. I'll have to put them into pots to get fruit in the future it seems.

My first ripening Mt Etna-leafed Brooklyn White fruit is just today beginning to swell and - guess what - it looks like it is darkening. Now I wonder if this will be no light fig after all but one of the dark Etna strains. That would seem strange if so because others on the board have talked of their Brooklyn White figs from Nature-Park as light figs. Maybe I got sent a mixed up set of cuttings, will see. Still early.

Top 2 pictures below are a couple of my "Brooklyn White"s - both 1st year after dieback to ground, each with a few figs, one by drive one not. Bottom picture is White Marseilles PP 2nd year after dieback to ground, no figs.

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I'm trying to get my niece to get a picture of the leaves on my tree. By memory, I think it looks like Tony's middle picture.

What's wrong with this picture?:
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This first ripening "Brooklyn White" fig with the vigorous Mount Etna leaves is not looking so light.
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Same cultivar, better view of typical leaf shape:
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Yet another one year old "Brooklyn White" tree, below (the cuttings rooted and grew like weeds), this one in a pot with extra holes in ground, multiple trunks about 4 feet long, bearing about 40 figs that should ripen. The pot is sunk maybe only 30 percent into loosened ground though most of the pot is covered due to my tossing in yard and woods debris as a type of loose mulch and shading of pot from sun. Weeks ago I plucked off a lot of the upper leaves to allow light in to the fruit area. Also plucked off young upper figs to help ensure that the first lower 40 ripen:
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Maybe it's a Brooklyn Dark?

Here are my Brooklyn White leaves.
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Leon, fabulous tree. Must be a lot of different types of Brooklyn Whites in circulation, I would guess. Noticed you have Aldo's Palermo Red in your top 3 figs list. Can't wait to try that fruit this year from a first year tree. That's the most appealing unripe fruit I've seen thus far, both shape and color.

Art, My actual Brooklyn Darks are struggling. Next year I'll make sure to set them up a lot better than I have till now.

Thank you Tony. Actually there should only be one type of Brooklyn White circulating but you can see all the variations floating around. I feel bad for folks who get varieties that are not true to name. You won't find out until it actually produces figs! I've been there as well.

I'm embarrassed to note that I sold an order of those Brooklyn White NOT (apparently) cuttings on Ebay last fall, and that I included BW NOT cuttings in a dozen other orders, half as part of the paid order, and half as gifts on top of other orders. Either way perpetuates the mistake, which is maddening to think of it continuing.

So now I've got some work to do. I do have the paper receipts, including my notes of what types of non-ordered gift cuttings went to whom, so I can follow up with everyone to clarify the mistake, offer refunds, or come to some other agreeable arrangement. 

I'll wait a week or two to see how the ripened fruit actually looks, make sure it's all coming in dark, and see the interior, so that I can convey that information.

I thought I had confirmation from online information that this fig was what it presented itself as and that there were several Brooklyn White variants in circulation. At least the nature-park Brooklyn White was spoken of by someone other than the seller as a light fig. But now, not least because the first fruit is ripening dark, I have to see that as a flimsy type of confirmation. And it doesn't seem possible now to track down the "nature-park" seller. Lesson learned. And, what a headache.

My apologies to all involved. If I'm missing something on how better to proceed in this circumstance, I would be interested to hear suggestions.

Yours is a very good policy, Pete:

IMO, the standard policy should be that before you start trading and selling, you should have grown the cultivar and produced at least 1 harvest, with photos to confirm the named cultivar. Several forum members have done this simple procedure for years without DNA testing or excessive guarantees. 

Your policy is surely one of the best ways to go.

That said, it might be worth pointing out that I was able to get a lot of good cuttings to people, including quite a number free cuttings, last year which wouldn't have happened had I strictly followed such a policy. For example, the first problem order I looked at was as follows: I sold 2 Mary Lane, 2 Negronne, 3 Brooklyn White cuttings in a single order, and gifted free on top a cutting each of Hunt, Keddie, and Janice. I had grown and ripened and eaten very good fruit from all those trees - the Hunt, the Keddie, the Janice, the Negronne -- except for the Mary Lane (from a tree from a reputable nursery) and the Brooklyn White. In my opinion, the customer got a good deal despite my mistake. But we'll see what the customer thinks, might be completely different from what I think, and I do think now that I did not know enough about the nature and origins of that Brooklyn White to sell it with the confidence I want to have. I've just now gone ahead and reached out to that customer since that person turned out to be readily reachable by email.

Thanks for the suggestion and link.

Tony,
You're welcome, It was only my personal opinion in the discussion, http://figs4funforum.websitetoolbox.com/post?id=6700635
I posted only because your PM is disabled.

I was trying not to hijack Art's topic.
Sorry Art.

I unblocked my PM for the time being. Had a hard time using it in the past - still seems problematic. My email has always been available. Sorry about any swerving from the post topic. Seems hard to determine sometimes how far the parameters of any given topic might reasonably extend.

Art,
I somehow missed the fig pictures in post #9.
Are the bottom of the figs flat? That is actually one of the characteristics of the Brooklyn White BS (Bass). Thanks.

My little over 1 year old tree is already producing really good figs. Definitely a keeper!

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Really nice figs, Dominic! I'd love to get one of those in my mouth! Do the Whites always produce figs of that size? Did you happen to weigh them? Zone 6A like myself.... have to try one of the BW's in my yard and see how it would do... Do you have your tree potted or in ground? How did you over winter it?

Thanks,
Tony

Thanks. Yea they usually weigh around 80 or so grams. I've already eaten like 6 figs so far and there's still many more on the tree. My tree was in a 1 gallon pot last year then half way through the summer I switched it to a 3 gallon pot. This past spring I put it in a 10 gallon pot. The tree has taken off this summer with all the heat. All my trees are stored in a garage. 

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Over the years, I've had several BW fig trees.  One came from a guy in NY.  However, his tree was different from Bass's tree.  His has an open eye and isn't that sweet.  That was years ago.  His tree died since and now I have 2 of Bass's tree.  One is in a 10g pot and has figs on.  This Fall, it will be one of the few that I will plant in my orchard.  It definitely underrated and a keeper in my climate.

I must have the worse climate possible because I had Brooklyn white from Bass itself,he gave it to me personally,and,I grew them for 4 years,and  had fruits starting second year,but ,all fruits were terrible tasting,watery souring,every one of them so i ended up discarding both trees.
When I see the reviews ,you guys give to this cultivar,I know what kind of local climate i have!.
And indeed the very particular location and position of your garden seem to be very important.

I think there may be a hundred different Brooklyn Whites. It is really a generic term for a tree from Brooklyn that is light colored. Many trees from Brooklyn came when Italian and Greek immigrants came to this country. Its the same for Brooklyn Dark or Dark or white Greek.

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