Closed Eye Common & San Pedro List

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Gofigure

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Posted 1396102875	Reply with quote #1

From UC Davis. Not all inclusive. Capri and Smyrna types excluded. May include San Pedro type. "-C-" = Closed eye. Some listed have early and main fruit where one or the other is open eye. I searched this site but could not find a list like this. Feel free to add more closed eye common or San Pedro to this list. Let me know if there are any smyrna and/or capri still on this list. Also included some other filters for body and pulp color with closed eye. CLOSED EYE DFIC 1 - C - Vernino DFIC 2 - C - Panachee DFIC 4 - C - UCR 291 DFIC 5 - C - Conadria DFIC 9 - C - Flanders DFIC 12 - C - Mission DFIC 14 - C - UCR 276-49 DFIC 16 - C - Santa Cruz Dark DFIC 19 - C - UCR 276-14 DFIC 23 - C - DFIC 23 DFIC 25 - C - UCR 278-128 DFIC 26 - C - Verte DFIC 28 - C - UCR 309 B-1 DFIC 30 - C - Genoa DFIC 37 - C - UCR 291-4 DFIC 47 - C - Pastiliere DFIC 48 - C - UCR 143-36 DFIC 49 - C - UCR 143-5 DFIC 50 - C - Conadria DFIC 53 - C - St. Jean DFIC 55 - C - Bournabat DFIC 61 - C - UCR 200-43 DFIC 63 - C - Violette de Bordeaux DFIC 65 - C - UCR 143-28 DFIC 69 - C - Barnisotte DFIC 70 - C - Blanquette DFIC 71 - C - UCR 171-59 DFIC 73 - C - Ischia White DFIC 74 - C - Col de Dame DFIC 77 - C - Calvert DFIC 78 - C - Karayaprak DFIC 79 - C - San Pietro DFIC 80 - C - Celeste DFIC 81 - C - Genoa White DFIC 85 - C - King DFIC 86 - C - Native de Argentile DFIC 89 - C - UCR 184-15s DFIC 90 - C - Ischia Black DFIC 96 - C - UCR 337-3 DFIC 100 - C - UCR 315-1 DFIC 103 - C - UCR 337-2 DFIC 105 - C - UCR K-7-11 DFIC 108 - C - UCR 341-1 DFIC 109 - C - UCR K-6-5 DFIC 139 - C - Santa Cruz Light Or White DFIC 158 - C - DFIC 158 DFIC 100 - C - UCR 315-1 DFIC 103 - C - UCR 337-2 DFIC 105 - C - UCR K-7-11 DFIC 108 - C - UCR 341-1 DFIC 109 - C - UCR K-6-5 DFIC 139 - C - Santa Cruz Light Or White DFIC 158 - C - DFIC 158 BLACK BODY DFIC 12 - B - Mission DFIC 47 - B - Pastiliere (UCD error?) DFIC 63 - B - Violette de Bordeaux DFIC 69 - B - Barnisotte DFIC 90 - B - Ischia Black PURPLE BODY DFIC 1 - P - Vernino DFIC 12 - P - Mission DFIC 17 - P - Brown Turkey DFIC 23 - P - DFIC 23 DFIC 27 - P - Beall DFIC 69 - P - Barnisotte RED PULP DFIC 1 - R - Vernino DFIC 2 - R - Panachee DFIC 12 - R - Mission DFIC 23 - R - DFIC 23 DFIC 26 - R - Verte DFIC 28 - R - UCR 309 B-1 DFIC 30 - R - Genoa DFIC 47 - R - Pastiliere DFIC 48 - R - UCR 143-36 DFIC 53 - R - St. Jean DFIC 55 - R - Bournabat DFIC 63 - R - Violette de Bordeaux DFIC 65 - R - UCR 143-28 DFIC 69 - R - Barnisotte DFIC 70 - R - Blanquette DFIC 74 - R - Col de Dame DFIC 77 - R - Calvert DFIC 78 - R - Karayaprak DFIC 79 - R - San Pietro DFIC 80 - R - Celeste DFIC 81 - R - Genoa White DFIC 85 - R - King DFIC 86 - R - Native de Argentile DFIC 89 - R - UCR 184-15s DFIC 90 - R - Ischia Black DFIC 105 - R - UCR K-7-11 DFIC 109 - R - UCR K-6-5 PINK PULP DFIC 53 - PK - St. Jean DFIC 61 - PK - UCR 200-43 DFIC 65 - PK - UCR 143-28 DFIC 100 - PK - UCR 315-1 DFIC 108 - PK - UCR 341-1 DFIC 112 - PK - Rattlesnake Island DFIC 113 - PK - Capitola Long Y (yes) for Early (Breba) and Main Fruit Productivity DFIC 5 - Y - Conadria DFIC 9 - Y - Flanders DFIC 12 - Y - Mission DFIC 14 - Y - UCR 276-49 DFIC 16 - Y - Santa Cruz Dark DFIC 19 - Y - UCR 276-14 DFIC 25 - Y - UCR 278-128 DFIC 28 - Y - UCR 309 B-1 DFIC 46 - Y - Trojano DFIC 85 - Y - King Member Observations: Small, Tight Eye Brown Turkey Hardy Chicago Negretta __________________ ATL, GA, Zone 7b In ground varieties (22):Osborne Prolific, Conadria, Petit Negri, O'Rourke, Hardy Chicago, Texas BA-1, Alma, Celeste, Kadota, Green Ischia, Brown Turkey, Black Mission, Violette de Bordeaux, Texas Everbearing, Magnolia/Brunswick, LSU Purple, Dark Portuguese, Black Greek, Ronde de Bordeaux, Champagne, Dark Portuguese, Hybrid 0023. Rooting: Excel, 187-25, 291-4, 143-36, Cole de Dame, Calvert, Vernino, Santa Cruz Dark, Pastilliere, St. Jean, Barnisotte, Native de Argentile, VdB, Osborne Prolific.

cobb4861

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Posted 1396104985	Reply with quote #2

Wow, this is great! Thank you for posting this list __________________ Meghan Cobb ~ Growing zone 9 Wish List: Pane e Vino White and /or Dark, De la Reina, Iranian mountain fig and anything else that is great to grow or at least try in the hot and humid Southeast Texas.

Gofigure

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Posted 1396107438	Reply with quote #3

Thanks! I just figured out how to use the "observations" section of the DFIC description. Found lots of varieties without any observations. Also found alternate names sometimes listed in the descriptions. __________________ ATL, GA, Zone 7b In ground varieties (22):Osborne Prolific, Conadria, Petit Negri, O'Rourke, Hardy Chicago, Texas BA-1, Alma, Celeste, Kadota, Green Ischia, Brown Turkey, Black Mission, Violette de Bordeaux, Texas Everbearing, Magnolia/Brunswick, LSU Purple, Dark Portuguese, Black Greek, Ronde de Bordeaux, Champagne, Dark Portuguese, Hybrid 0023. Rooting: Excel, 187-25, 291-4, 143-36, Cole de Dame, Calvert, Vernino, Santa Cruz Dark, Pastilliere, St. Jean, Barnisotte, Native de Argentile, VdB, Osborne Prolific.

Ruuting

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Posted 1396113053	Reply with quote #4

The four Roedings and Stanford are caprifigs, and Marabout is Smyrna. This is a nice reference, I hope people add to this list. __________________ Rui Southeast CT, zone 6B

Gofigure

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Posted 1396116427	Reply with quote #5

Updated. Will update list as I get input. __________________ ATL, GA, Zone 7b In ground varieties (22):Osborne Prolific, Conadria, Petit Negri, O'Rourke, Hardy Chicago, Texas BA-1, Alma, Celeste, Kadota, Green Ischia, Brown Turkey, Black Mission, Violette de Bordeaux, Texas Everbearing, Magnolia/Brunswick, LSU Purple, Dark Portuguese, Black Greek, Ronde de Bordeaux, Champagne, Dark Portuguese, Hybrid 0023. Rooting: Excel, 187-25, 291-4, 143-36, Cole de Dame, Calvert, Vernino, Santa Cruz Dark, Pastilliere, St. Jean, Barnisotte, Native de Argentile, VdB, Osborne Prolific.

Aaron4USA

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Posted 1396117798	Reply with quote #6

very informative post Gofigure, appreciated how much time you put into this. - a question, can closed eyed varieties get pollinated? Because the dark fig that I have in my profile , have been said by many, is a Pastilliere and it has been pollinated by wasps ... or...does closed eye mean it could have some opening but overall is safe for rains and bigger insects? (some input on this would be appreciated) Thanks.

Gofigure

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Posted 1396126276	Reply with quote #7

Pastilliere is one of those varieties observed as having both open and closed main fruit eyes. I also looked at several capri figs, and most of them indicated closed main fruit eyes with one indicating open and closed. The size of the eye makes a difference, but UC Davis don't show that information. You may have noticed that Brown Turkey is not listed as having a closed eye yet it does fine in rain and humidity. Pastilliere was observed as having only a main product versus an early and main, so I think it must be common versus San Pedro with a common product and a pollinated product. Added those with closed eye and early breba as well as main fruit productivity. __________________ ATL, GA, Zone 7b In ground varieties (22):Osborne Prolific, Conadria, Petit Negri, O'Rourke, Hardy Chicago, Texas BA-1, Alma, Celeste, Kadota, Green Ischia, Brown Turkey, Black Mission, Violette de Bordeaux, Texas Everbearing, Magnolia/Brunswick, LSU Purple, Dark Portuguese, Black Greek, Ronde de Bordeaux, Champagne, Dark Portuguese, Hybrid 0023. Rooting: Excel, 187-25, 291-4, 143-36, Cole de Dame, Calvert, Vernino, Santa Cruz Dark, Pastilliere, St. Jean, Barnisotte, Native de Argentile, VdB, Osborne Prolific.

Dieseler

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Posted 1396141150	Reply with quote #8

Yes Pastiliere can have a semi closed or open eye seen observed both when was in yard. Also it was observed not to be black. Hardy Chicago here in yard has nice tight eye. Negretta here in yard has nice tight eye.

Aaron4USA

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Posted 1396152103	Reply with quote #9

I see now, my Pastilliere is not a tightly closed eye, yet , as it should be, is a Unifera. In LA, where wasps are almost everywhere, this variety gets pollinated and inside feels up with pulp and honey, also gets really dark purplish-red pulp with , of course, fertile seeds.

Gofigure

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Posted 1396178913	Reply with quote #10

Quote: Originally Posted by Dieseler Yes Pastiliere can have a semi closed or open eye seen observed both when was in yard. Also it was observed not to be black. Hardy Chicago here in yard has nice tight eye. Negretta here in yard has nice tight eye. Here is a link to UCDs observation. Put your cursor over any terms in the left column to see the description of the acronym. http://www.ars-grin.gov/cgi-bin/npgs/acc/obs.pl?1001541 There is a body pattern color (BODYPTCOL2) and a body ground color (BODYGRCOL2). I've listed body color based on body ground. For example, Alma was observed to have a green body ground and a yellow or grey body pattern. I added a member observations column for small, tight eye and added that Pastilliere having a black body may be an error by UCD. Out of 367 varieties, only about 120 have observations listed. I would expect all the LSU types are small, tight eyed but I have no experience with any of them. Please post your own observations and I will update the list. __________________ ATL, GA, Zone 7b In ground varieties (22):Osborne Prolific, Conadria, Petit Negri, O'Rourke, Hardy Chicago, Texas BA-1, Alma, Celeste, Kadota, Green Ischia, Brown Turkey, Black Mission, Violette de Bordeaux, Texas Everbearing, Magnolia/Brunswick, LSU Purple, Dark Portuguese, Black Greek, Ronde de Bordeaux, Champagne, Dark Portuguese, Hybrid 0023. Rooting: Excel, 187-25, 291-4, 143-36, Cole de Dame, Calvert, Vernino, Santa Cruz Dark, Pastilliere, St. Jean, Barnisotte, Native de Argentile, VdB, Osborne Prolific.

Dieseler

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Posted 1396184208	Reply with quote #11

Aaron this video will answer your question about fig wasp getting in tight eye. When it came on TV is was a joy to watch and very clear picture on the TV screen.

Aaron4USA

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Posted 1396198544	Reply with quote #12

Martin, I love this documentary... such an awesome work. I am definitely keeping this one. (along with the "This is how you eat a fig" ), haha. Thanks for sharing.

dkirtexas

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Posted 1437435432	Reply with quote #13

BUMP This is great stuff! It is amazing how much information we really have at our fingertips __________________ Thx, glad to be here Danny K "EL CAZADOR DE HIGO" Waskom Tx Zone 7B/8 Wish list: anything anyone wants me to have. LSU RED. Any LSU fig.

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