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Cold hardy olives?

Anyone familiar with olives that will produce in zone 7?  A

There are several olive cultivars with a cold-hardy reputation, mainly in Europe.
To name a few French: Aglandaou, Tanche, Mouflal, Oliviere. Among those Mouflal is the most cold-hardy according to the varietal descriptions and I have a friend who has a nice tree in his garden, although it is in zone 8a, very mild part of my country. A Bulgarian nursery sells two selected varieties selected at Plovdiv University. They named them Elit-1 and Elit-5. There are some varieties from some parts of the former Soviet Union like Bakinskiy, Tiflisskiy, Buzovninsiy, Nikitskiy-1 and Nikitskiy VI. From Spanish cultivars Cornicabra is said to be the best. 

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It appears that olive trees don't like clay soil. I have a mission and an arbequina planted next to each other in zone 8b. They are over seven year old and hardly growing.
No production so far.

These guys grow olive trees in Canada.....somehow.....

http://olivetrees.ca


 Hey there Tennessee...

   We've had hundreds of acres of Mission olives growing here since 1795.   A 2-week period of temps in the 20*s which wiped out many citrus and avocado orchards here, left our Mission olives unscathed.  It's a cultivar that I'd easily recommend.   Our "soil" here consists largely of bowling-ball sized stones encased in red, sticky clay...  and I have several 100 year old trees near the house that require pruning continually.

   If you'd like to receive several of these trees, send me a PM. 

Hey Blue,

I would like to try my luck with one of those if you got one to spare? Would pay you for the tree and shipping.I tried growing an Arbequina olive tree in 7b years ago with no luck.
 Thanks,
Grant

One of the ladies at a class I attended mentioned she was looking for an olive tree.  Of course I felt the need to have one.  I bought seeds, which I haven't started yet.  I'd appreciate you thinking of me for cuttings the next time you trim your trees.  (I'll PM also). 

Mission olive may actually be from Morocco in origin:

http://www.oliveoiltimes.com/opinion/are-mission-olives-actually-picholine-marocaine/29732

I have not had good luck with Mission, may have just lost another, and not sure why.

Picual is hard to kill, and (kadish) Barnea-K 18 grows good on sand, just remember to water, and lime, and fertilize..

PM SENT BLUE :)

Blue : My soil here is the same, we have huge rocks and red sticky clay.  I am very excited about those trees.  It's amazing that your orchard is so old, that has to be an awesome sight.  

Lewi: how cold hardy do you  think those varieties are?  Are you growing olives in your zone?

This is from a florida Nursery that I bought from (face tp face)...they do not reccomend olives in zone 7.

http://olivetreegrowers.com/blog.php?view=detail&id=114

I remember reading about Jefferson's plantion in Virginia, he never got a significant crop.

OTOH folks in Oregon are getting some olives (check out their info under Cultivars, and their disclaimer).

http://www.oregonolivetrees.com/index_files/Introduction.htm

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Cheryl N2F,

Seedlings even in a warm climate may never produce....best used for grafting (all Kalamata are grafted this way). Unless your going the contaner route, in ground Olive in Chicaga' is a waste of time and money.

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Originally Posted by VeryNew2Figs
One of the ladies at a class I attended mentioned she was looking for an olive tree.  Of course I felt the need to have one.  I bought seeds, which I haven't started yet.  I'd appreciate you thinking of me for cuttings the next time you trim your trees.  (I'll PM also). 



While I've not had a lot of (any) success indoors or out in Canada...Despite over 50+ attempts..... I have had some experience with Mediterranean olives. 
The only reliable way to propagate olives that I've seen is from cuttings and grafting. Seeds might germinate but it would grow slowly, not fruit for 10 years or so and it (likely) might not breed true to any variety (it’s like growing and apple from seed—nobody does that.) In the old days in Greece or Italy or wherever they traditionally grew olives, they probably took suckers from the roots of old trees but really that’s pretty much stopped as well. In any case, all the trees I know of now were started from hardwood cuttings...My cousins in Sicily do start seed for fun...but that's about it...

This will be true regardless of what route you take...Olive trees grow slowly - Very, very slowly. And they're valuable.. So much so that where my family is from they're more likely to build around one than cut it down.... If you want to enjoy it, get the biggest tree you can. On my holiday's in Italy I visit trees that look quite small and young....They are the same trees my 73 year old mother climbed as a child....

I'm not trying to discourage you...Just trying to offer what I think might be the best chance for success and enjoyment of these beautiful trees.

Good luck!

I've got this problem when it comes to plants.  If I think it can be grown, I must try it.  Can't help myself.  I've got Moringa trees (small potted) in my basement right now because I read how every part of the tree serves a purpose all the way to the seeds purifying water.  Am I ever going to get that many seeds?  I think not, but I get a kick out of being able to say I've got a Moringa tree.  Gynostemma pentaphyllum a/k/a Jiagulon  a/k/a Mortality Herb, I was able to grow that from seed.  I actually expect one day to be able to harvest enough of that to make tea.

I didn't remember reading that it took 10 years for the olive to fruit from seed.  That's a really long time, especially when I've got so little space with my fig addiction.  And, no, I don't think I can stop any time I want.

Thanks for the dose of reality on the seeds.  I do appreciate it.

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Originally Posted by VeryNew2Figs
I've got this problem when it comes to plants.  If I think it can be grown, I must try it.  Can't help myself.  I've got Moringa trees (small potted) in my basement right now because I read how every part of the tree serves a purpose all the way to the seeds purifying water.  Am I ever going to get that many seeds?  I think not, but I get a kick out of being able to say I've got a Moringa tree.  Gynostemma pentaphyllum a/k/a Jiagulon  a/k/a Mortality Herb, I was able to grow that from seed.  I actually expect one day to be able to harvest enough of that to make tea.

I didn't remember reading that it took 10 years for the olive to fruit from seed.  That's a really long time, especially when I've got so little space with my fig addiction.  And, no, I don't think I can stop any time I want.

Thanks for the dose of reality on the seeds.  I do appreciate it.


Clearly it brings you a lot of satisfaction...By all means, don't let anything I wrote discourage you. As it is I'm currently waiting on 20 olive seeds to show signs of life, with another 30 of various varieties waiting to be started....So I too am a sucker for punishment...And yes, it's nice to have the bragging rights....

I fear I may be enabling you by sharing this...But here's Mike J.  A guy up in Zone 5 Montreal growing great big palm trees...In the ground....Not because it's easy..




We're not suckers for punishment, we're eternal optimists ;-)

I'm a fan of edibles, so you don't have to worry about enabling on that one.  Hope your seeds germinate and make lots of healthy pretty plants, even if they take a few years to produce.

Back when I lived in Zones 6a/5b, I had a potted Leccino that fruited on my back deck.  Since moving to warmer climes two years ago, it hasn't fruited again.  Go figure.


Blue,


Thank you for the Mission olive tree and pecan cuttings, very impressed with the quality and very thankful!

Grant


  You're too generous, Grant...   let me know how they do there for you.

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