Comparasion Sal's Cor. & Godfather

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random

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Posted 1471784118	Reply with quote #1

Do any of you agree with the results shown here by me Lou Attached Images P8180009.JPG (253.85 KB, 113 views) P8180010.JPG (293.64 KB, 113 views) __________________ Lou Pezzuti

vito12831

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Posted 1471784872	Reply with quote #2

Hi Lou. I think you're unto something there. Vito

greenfig

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Posted 1471790090	Reply with quote #3

Unless you are comparing two ripe figs grown under the same conditions, the comparison doesn't matter that much. __________________ wish list: Violeta, Calderona. USDA z 10a, SoCal

brianm

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Posted 1471791035	Reply with quote #4

Huh? That's not even close. __________________ Wish list: Galicia Negra,UC Davis Black Ischia, Maltese Raven

leon_edmond

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Posted 1471791689 · Edited	Reply with quote #5

I'm assuming that you're comparing Sal's Corleone leaves to the leaves on the fig tree portrayed in the movie, the Godfather? Here is a link to a thread that I posted a few years back on a comparison made between Aldo's Palermo Red and Sal's Corleone. I concluded that the two figs side-by-side were the same. If you look hard, you can see that the shape of the leaves from my photos of Sal's Corleone is different than the Godfather leaf, if that helps. http://figs4funforum.websitetoolbox.com/post/sals-corleone-palermo-red-aldos-4887658?highlight=sal%27s+corleone&pid=41926961 By the way, has anyone been able to taste the figs from the Godfather tree? or at least tell us if it appears to be a productive variety (figlets, etc?) Thanks.

pino

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Posted 1471795059	Reply with quote #6

Quote: Originally Posted by leon_edmond I'm assuming that you're comparing Sal's Corleone leaves to the leaves on the fig tree portrayed in the movie, the Godfather? Here is a link to a thread that I posted a few years back on a comparison made between Aldo's Palermo Red and Sal's Corleone. I concluded that the two figs side-by-side were the same. If you look hard, you can see that the shape of the leaves from my photos of Sal's Corleone is different than the Godfather leaf, if that helps. http://figs4funforum.websitetoolbox.com/post/sals-corleone-palermo-red-aldos-4887658?highlight=sal%27s+corleone&pid=41926961 By the way, has anyone been able to taste the figs from the Godfather tree? or at least tell us if it appears to be a productive variety (figlets, etc?) Thanks. Leon Do your Aldo and Palermo red produce a lot of brebas? Do you have them planted in ground? __________________ Pino, zone 6, Niagara, JCJ Acres Wish; Peace on earth and more figs Italian 258, Galicia Negra, Luv, trade suggestions welcome.

PeterC

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Posted 1471812877 · Edited	Reply with quote #7

I have both growing, photo on the left is a Sal's Corleone in a sip and the right is the Godfather. __________________ Growing: Sal's Corleone, Brooklyn Unknown, Peters Honey, White Kadoda, Brown Turkey, Black Mission, Deanna, Green Irchia, Hollier, Sals E Wanted: A very cold hardy fig, Hardy Chicago or Celeste Zone 7 Long Island

leon_edmond

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Posted 1471814510	Reply with quote #8

Pino: I have one tree in the ground and several in large pots. Aldo's Palermo Red gives a good number of large brebas followed by a main crop that keeps ripening figs until frost. PeterC: Thank you for sharing photos of your figs but can you clarify which varieties they are? Are those leaves from Aldo's and Sal's Corleone or are those leaves from Sal's Corleone and Godfather. Thanks guys. Leon

Herman2

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Posted 1471821816 · Edited	Reply with quote #9

My opinion,is that Sal Corleone ,Palermo red, Sicilian red,Aldo's fig,they are all,very similar and all are specifically of Sicilian origin. In fact specimen of this fig were always grown by Sicilian people,and they refuse to grow any other fig,if they only had space for one.! If there was a fig to complement the Sicilian living,it is this fig ,before any others. Edit note:I personally,(of course i am not Sicilian) consider that one should grow a cultivar,that can take the local climate,and so,this Sicilian fig,is not very good for rainy Atlantic states,like NJ,but ,try to tell it to a Sicilian. Many have it here under many names.

pino

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Posted 1471828477	Reply with quote #10

Any ideas on what this fig(s) is/are called in Sicily? __________________ Pino, zone 6, Niagara, JCJ Acres Wish; Peace on earth and more figs Italian 258, Galicia Negra, Luv, trade suggestions welcome.

leon_edmond

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Posted 1471829488	Reply with quote #11

Herman, very good opinion! You are spot on about this fig. Here in Albuquerque, it does very well and is my workhorse fig when everything else fails.

PeterC

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Posted 1471831492	Reply with quote #12

I have noticed that my Sals Corleone, although healthy looking, it is not a fast grower in the container. All my other fig trees have grown leaps and bounds __________________ Growing: Sal's Corleone, Brooklyn Unknown, Peters Honey, White Kadoda, Brown Turkey, Black Mission, Deanna, Green Irchia, Hollier, Sals E Wanted: A very cold hardy fig, Hardy Chicago or Celeste Zone 7 Long Island

coop951

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Posted 1471832092 · Edited	Reply with quote #13

I'm so happy to see the interest in this topic. I'm still waiting for a ripe fig. The mystery continues, and by the way Lou, that's a beautiful looking leaf! __________________ Coop Northern NJ Zone 7a

random

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Posted 1471878739	Reply with quote #14

Thanks Coop, I have Vito to thank for that. __________________ Lou Pezzuti

MexicanFigFood

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Posted 1472032617	Reply with quote #15

I planted one of my Godfather trees in the ground about a month ago and it's doing great! __________________ New Jersey Zone 7A Growing: Italian, Black Mission, Godfather fig.

PeterC

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Posted 1473777675	Reply with quote #16

I am far from a fig expert, although, I had a few trees for more than 20 years. What I do know now after recently growing 13 varieties is that the Sal's Corleone and the Godfather fig trees are slow growers, at least, they are slow growers in pots in NY. I just picked my Sals fig yesterday, delicious!! __________________ Growing: Sal's Corleone, Brooklyn Unknown, Peters Honey, White Kadoda, Brown Turkey, Black Mission, Deanna, Green Irchia, Hollier, Sals E Wanted: A very cold hardy fig, Hardy Chicago or Celeste Zone 7 Long Island

pino

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Posted 1473780484 · Edited	Reply with quote #17

According to what I have seen posted on the forums; The godfather fig has no connection at all to the Sicilian Red and Black fig family. This fig gained notoriety simply by being a prop for the movie set. Just a fig tree they stuck on the set. Has anyone ever had a ripe fig from this tree? Isn't the the real godfather fig "Fico di Capo" which according to the Belleclare list is a synonym for Sal's Corleone? __________________ Pino, zone 6, Niagara, JCJ Acres Wish; Peace on earth and more figs Italian 258, Galicia Negra, Luv, trade suggestions welcome.

PeterC

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Posted 1473785691	Reply with quote #18

Thanks Pino, I love learning about this stuff, wish some of you guys were closer, we could have homemade wine and talk fig. __________________ Growing: Sal's Corleone, Brooklyn Unknown, Peters Honey, White Kadoda, Brown Turkey, Black Mission, Deanna, Green Irchia, Hollier, Sals E Wanted: A very cold hardy fig, Hardy Chicago or Celeste Zone 7 Long Island

pino

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Posted 1473814752	Reply with quote #19

Quote: Originally Posted by PeterC Thanks Pino, I love learning about this stuff, wish some of you guys were closer, we could have homemade wine and talk fig. Hey Peter, We have over 190 wineries in Niagara. Most just built last decade and some really impressive. It is just a short trip by airplane or a long drive on the I90 but then who is going to watch your figs? __________________ Pino, zone 6, Niagara, JCJ Acres Wish; Peace on earth and more figs Italian 258, Galicia Negra, Luv, trade suggestions welcome.

Garlic_Mike

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Posted 1473815785	Reply with quote #20

Hi Peter. In my shout-out post there is a picture of my godfather plant. You should be able to see the leaves. I will have to check it for figs. I do not think it had any. If there are they are small. I have Sicilian Red and the leaves look very much like your Sal's Corleone. The fig shape looks the same and the Sicilian Red has some nice sized figs growing on it. Both were started this year. The Sicilian probably had a 3 month head start. Both plants in a 5 gallon bucket are @4' like my Gino's Black, a smaller plant. Where most others are 5-6'+. I had the Corleone but it stalled and died. Mike

PeterC

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Posted 1473817947	Reply with quote #21

Very cool Mike, I am thinking next year should be a very good crop on all, most of what I have came from 8 inch clippings, they are all close to 6 ft now except for the GF plant, it is very healthy looking but slow grower. The chicken manure seemed to work real well, along with lime & bone meal. __________________ Growing: Sal's Corleone, Brooklyn Unknown, Peters Honey, White Kadoda, Brown Turkey, Black Mission, Deanna, Green Irchia, Hollier, Sals E Wanted: A very cold hardy fig, Hardy Chicago or Celeste Zone 7 Long Island

Garlic_Mike

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Posted 1473869163	Reply with quote #22

The Godfather, Bottom two are Sicilian Red Mine look different, even early. Mike

pino

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Posted 1473870061	Reply with quote #23

It will be interesting to see what the ripe fig looks like. __________________ Pino, zone 6, Niagara, JCJ Acres Wish; Peace on earth and more figs Italian 258, Galicia Negra, Luv, trade suggestions welcome.

Herman2

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Posted 1473897862	Reply with quote #24

If Both those figs are of Sicilian origin,by chance then one is same as Sal Corleone,(bottom),and the one in top is Sicilian white.

PeterC

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Posted 1473905072 · Edited	Reply with quote #25

Pino, wine & figs are a lovely combination! Either way, this Sicilian fig is going to be a great addition, cant wait until next years to see its figs! __________________ Growing: Sal's Corleone, Brooklyn Unknown, Peters Honey, White Kadoda, Brown Turkey, Black Mission, Deanna, Green Irchia, Hollier, Sals E Wanted: A very cold hardy fig, Hardy Chicago or Celeste Zone 7 Long Island

Garlic_Mike

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Posted 1473912732	Reply with quote #26

I can't wait to see My Godfather has a couple figs bigger than I thought. I think a couple should ripen. If the Godfather is Sicilian White, that would be neat. Mike

PeterC

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Posted 1473948941	Reply with quote #27

see what I mean about a slow grower? just like my Sal's in the big sip. The GF is in the small green container and right next to it is an Green Irchia, just to the left of the baseball player statue is Matts, Sheepshead bay, now over six foot. Is it common that Sicilian fig trees grow slow? __________________ Growing: Sal's Corleone, Brooklyn Unknown, Peters Honey, White Kadoda, Brown Turkey, Black Mission, Deanna, Green Irchia, Hollier, Sals E Wanted: A very cold hardy fig, Hardy Chicago or Celeste Zone 7 Long Island

DevIsgro

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Posted 1473960110	Reply with quote #28

Quote: Originally Posted by PeterC see what I mean about a slow grower? just like my Sal's in the big sip. The GF is in the small green container and right next to it is an Green Irchia, just to the left of the baseball player statue is Matts, Sheepshead bay, now over six foot. Is it common that Sicilian fig trees grow slow? That's still a pretty good growth success for one year right? __________________ Currently growing 50-60 varieties, this season's cuttings dependant. Hopefully I'll get to taste a few more this year...

PeterC

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Posted 1473963967	Reply with quote #29

yes, all this year, they all started out as 8 inch clippings, except for the Sal's, I bought that from a forum member here bare root about 5 ft. __________________ Growing: Sal's Corleone, Brooklyn Unknown, Peters Honey, White Kadoda, Brown Turkey, Black Mission, Deanna, Green Irchia, Hollier, Sals E Wanted: A very cold hardy fig, Hardy Chicago or Celeste Zone 7 Long Island

coop951

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Posted 1473967732	Reply with quote #30

Glad there is so much interest in this intriguing plant. I rooted about 50 of these and have found them most prolific here in NJ. The second photo shows a good example of how many of them are growing now. The first photo is one of my "prized" ones. Keep in mind that the plants you see are about 8 months old. I have much hope and anticipation for next year. Attached Images DSCN0354.JPG (581.82 KB, 9 views) __________________ Coop Northern NJ Zone 7a

DevIsgro

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Posted 1473970203	Reply with quote #31

They look really good Coop __________________ Currently growing 50-60 varieties, this season's cuttings dependant. Hopefully I'll get to taste a few more this year...

Garlic_Mike

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Posted 1473997045	Reply with quote #32

The Green Ishia grows ridiculous. Probably one of the most vigorous that I have. I will try to get a picture up tomorrow. I put it in the ground this year, and it is taking over. The GF and Sicilian do seem to grow slower. About the size as Gino's Black, Which is reported to be a slower growing plant

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