Cray cray on the electrical tape method, one plant per node!!!

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AZFig

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Posted 1446408654	Reply with quote #1

Check it, before you wreck it!!! Attached Images received_1509815082645771.jpeg (95.90 KB, 291 views) received_1509815075979105.jpeg (126.19 KB, 290 views) received_1509815375979075.jpeg (111.19 KB, 279 views) received_1509815029312443.jpeg (90.80 KB, 268 views) __________________ JUSTIN Zone 8a Wishlist-Genovese Nero

COGardener

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Posted 1446413727	Reply with quote #2

I'm sorry, this is new to me, what is the point and the final outcome?

GreenFin

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Posted 1446414320	Reply with quote #3

Do roots grow under the tape? __________________ James, zone 6a Kansas (zone 10 greenhouses); wish list is in my profile http://www.FigCuttings.com

AZFig

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Posted 1446414706 · Edited	Reply with quote #4

The final outcome is multiplication. Roots form under the tape, cut, plant, done! __________________ JUSTIN Zone 8a Wishlist-Genovese Nero

GreenFin

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Posted 1446415436	Reply with quote #5

Pretty cool :) __________________ James, zone 6a Kansas (zone 10 greenhouses); wish list is in my profile http://www.FigCuttings.com

Mario_1

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Posted 1446415463	Reply with quote #6

Do you take tape off ? And if you do what happens to roots? __________________ Wallingford CT, USA zone 6a would be happy to meet and get together with other members near me Wish list; Any fig from any specific place anywhere in Italy

GreenFin

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Posted 1446415793	Reply with quote #7

I think you'd leave the tape on when you plant it and just let the roots grow through/around it. __________________ James, zone 6a Kansas (zone 10 greenhouses); wish list is in my profile http://www.FigCuttings.com

COGardener

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Posted 1446418849	Reply with quote #8

Do you girdle the branch at all? Do you have pics that show the results or is this your fist attempt? You added no details nor comments. Where did you see this technique?

AZFig

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Posted 1446420783	Reply with quote #9

There is not much on this technique, but it works. Did it this summer on a 1" diameter trunk and let it be. In six weeks or so the tape started bulging out and looked like it was going to give birth to an alien. One thing I know is your cuttings won't rot. It is very easy to do just start at the bottom of a big branch and wrap everything except the buds with a roll of electric tape. I will update later when I unravel the tape. Oh,one more thing, this technique requires no babysitting. (Taking the tape off does not disturb the roots at all) __________________ JUSTIN Zone 8a Wishlist-Genovese Nero

COGardener

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Posted 1446421872	Reply with quote #10

Cool, I look forward to seeing the results. Do you have pics of your first go round?

Brooklynmatty

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Posted 1446422437	Reply with quote #11

James posted about this a long while back, post is towards the end. http://figs4funforum.websitetoolbox.com/post/air-layering-marathon-pictures-4849944?highlight=tape&pid=41549730 __________________ Matt - Long Island - Zone 7B Wishlist: CDD Roja, Planera, CDD Rimada Please use the following thread if your growing my "unknown Sheepshead" to track your progress. http://figs4funforum.websitetoolbox.com/post/saved-brooklyn-tree-unknown-sheepshead-community-growlog-7808733?pid=1290171384

COGardener

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Posted 1446423741	Reply with quote #12

Interesting. Thank you Matt

starch

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Posted 1446424520	Reply with quote #13

Dude, that is crazy! (excuse me, cray cray). So you can take the tape off eventually and it won't rip off the roots? That is awesome! (Having electrical tape in the warm moist soil of an edible plant probably isn't the best thing in the world. ) I am definitely going to try this idea. Thanks for sharing it! __________________ Location: USDA Zone 9b / Sunset 13. Chandler, AZ Currently producing fruit and scions: Violette de Bordeaux, Panache, Black Mission, Black Jack, Smith, Col de Dame Gris, Marseilles Black VS, Red Lebanese (Bekaa) Small Trees / Currently rooting: lots Wish List: Ponte Tresa, Italian 258, Genovese Nero (not Rob's)

COGardener

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Posted 1446424845	Reply with quote #14

Quote: Originally Posted by starch Dude, that is crazy! (excuse me, cray cray). So you can take the tape off eventually and it won't rip off the roots? That is awesome! (Having electrical tape in the warm moist soil of an edible plant probably isn't the best thing in the world. ) I am definitely going to try this idea. Thanks for sharing it! Look at James' post on the link above, be sure to put the sticky side out!

leon_edmond

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Posted 1446424932	Reply with quote #15

So when you remove the air layer, do you have sufficient roots to keep the leaves alive? Especially in your climate, I would imagine the heat and dryness would kill the plant if not enough roots. Thank you for the idea.

starch

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Posted 1446426599	Reply with quote #16

Quote: Originally Posted by COGardener Look at James' post on the link above, be sure to put the sticky side out! Ahhhh. Thank you! That will make a big difference :) __________________ Location: USDA Zone 9b / Sunset 13. Chandler, AZ Currently producing fruit and scions: Violette de Bordeaux, Panache, Black Mission, Black Jack, Smith, Col de Dame Gris, Marseilles Black VS, Red Lebanese (Bekaa) Small Trees / Currently rooting: lots Wish List: Ponte Tresa, Italian 258, Genovese Nero (not Rob's)

COGardener

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Posted 1446426837	Reply with quote #17

Oh my yes. I was wondering as well until I read that. Thank you James!

figpig_66

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Posted 1446427425	Reply with quote #18

Thank you for posting fun stuff to do thats easy. __________________ RICHIE BONI HICKORY LOUISIANA ZONE 8B WARM HUMID WINRERS ARE VERY MILD LOW 20'S BUT WARMS RIGHT UP DURING THE DAY. SUMMER IS EXTREMELY HOT & HUMID 100 degrees 100% humidity fig tree grow like crazy but some split from rain & humidity Wish list. Col de dame blanc Col de rimada Lsu numbered figs

figpig_66

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Posted 1446427777	Reply with quote #19

Also from the thread mentioned above. Whats going on in this pic from james. Attached Images 2015-11-01_19.28.08.png (771.44 KB, 87 views) __________________ RICHIE BONI HICKORY LOUISIANA ZONE 8B WARM HUMID WINRERS ARE VERY MILD LOW 20'S BUT WARMS RIGHT UP DURING THE DAY. SUMMER IS EXTREMELY HOT & HUMID 100 degrees 100% humidity fig tree grow like crazy but some split from rain & humidity Wish list. Col de dame blanc Col de rimada Lsu numbered figs

Rewton

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Posted 1446428379	Reply with quote #20

I was thinking the same thing as Leon. It seems like there wouldn't be extensive enough root tissue to support the top growth. Even with conventional airlayers with decent roots I typically remove half the leaves (or maybe more). __________________ Steve MD zone 7a

Brooklynmatty

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Posted 1446428808	Reply with quote #21

James only seems to do it to get the roots to start forming then begins his airlayers, so I would assume after the tape is on for a while , then the air layers can be started. __________________ Matt - Long Island - Zone 7B Wishlist: CDD Roja, Planera, CDD Rimada Please use the following thread if your growing my "unknown Sheepshead" to track your progress. http://figs4funforum.websitetoolbox.com/post/saved-brooklyn-tree-unknown-sheepshead-community-growlog-7808733?pid=1290171384

AZFig

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Posted 1446429802	Reply with quote #22

We will see, I'm going to go straight into cups of 5-1-1 under the cfl's after root formation. During summer when I do air layers, you don't need very many roots forming for a plant to take off in soil. I'm going to try just exposing the one bud above soil line. Air layers always seem to grow faster than cuttings, maybe this is due to the energy lost from cuttings being removed from plant before root formation. This way, (electrical tape) roots form while cuttings are still intact saving energy for the new plant growth. This is my theory, but we will see!!! __________________ JUSTIN Zone 8a Wishlist-Genovese Nero

jdsfrance

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Posted 1446453457	Reply with quote #23

Hi, I would be afraid of the bark rotting under the tape. But why not ! Let us know what comes out of that experience ! __________________ ------------------------ Climate from -25°C to + 35°C Only cold hardy figtrees can make it here

BronxFigs

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Posted 1446465572 · Edited	Reply with quote #24

Honestly, I scratched my head in confusion, and then had to read through this whole thread to finally get to some details regarding this technique of starting roots on stems. I didn't even understand the title, or subject, of the thread. Without the link to the original postings, and the explanatory photos, I would have been lost. I have never seen this tape-wrapping technique before, and if it works well, it can be a real boon for those who want a lot of trees, quickly. For every node, a tree. That's great! So... the plastic tape is wound around the stems with sticky surface towards the outside....Ummmmmm....I wonder if a thin layer of burlap (strips) can be wound around the stems first, then wrapped with the outer layer of tape. Then the plastic tape is ultimately removed after roots form, but the burlap stays wrapped on the stems -which are subdivided into sections- and the roots can continue to grow through the burlap, undisturbed...and into the growing medium. All, just speculation on my part. Of course, I'm going to try this next season. How could I not? Frank __________________ Bronx, NYC Zone-7

AZFig

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Posted 1446596909	Reply with quote #25

Good thing we are on the same page, because I also scratch my head in confusion about most things posted in f4f forum.:) __________________ JUSTIN Zone 8a Wishlist-Genovese Nero

Smungung

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Posted 1446598311	Reply with quote #26

Wouldn't the branch rot from not being able to breathe? __________________ Matthew Mei Age:15 Zone 6A Secaucus, New Jersey Aquarist any questions pertaining to fish shoot me a message always willing to help! :) Gardener Fisherman

Jamie0507

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Posted 1466081180	Reply with quote #27

Any update on this method by chance? __________________ Jamie Zone 6A My List of Fig Varieties: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/13MXbhU3b-5Y4bkNSWHVikw6m-vovlHZcBjcsxMwQ7iY Wish list: Col. Littmans, Figoin, Black Tuscan.. And now for my "Hey..A girl has got to have dreams!" wishlist: Sangue Dolce, Montenegro, Rigato del Salento

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