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Do you have the LSU BLACK ?

Yesterday evening I went down to the Petals from the past nursery and bought few figs, Lemons and Persimmons trees. They also had some LSU Black for sale, I had never heard of it but bought one in 3 gallon. The owner (Jason) told me, the tree came out of LSU Ag. program and the fruit resemble the Black Italian but a little smaller and very sweet.<div>My question for you all of you who has more knowledge about the figs came out of LSU program is,  do you have this tree in your collection, if so, how would you compare its sweetness to O'Rourke and VDB, is this a closed or open eye fig and do have any pics from your own LSU Blk that you can post?</div><div><br></div><div>Navid.</div><div><br></div><div><br><div><br></div></div>

There are three LSU black figs......LSU Scott's Black, LSU Late Black, and LSU St. Gabriel Black.   Scott's Black has the tightest eye of the three and a flavor profile closer to VDB than the other two black figs. All three are very good tasting figs that do quite well in my yard. 

My guess is that you have the Scott's Black variety. It is the common one now found in the retail trade. The other two black LSU figs are a bit harder to come by. A few forum members have LSU Late Black. This particular one that they have originated from me. I have not yet given out my St. Gabriel Black to anyone. I posted pictures sometime back on this fig forum.

Dan
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Scott's Black is a great fig by all measures. It does not split in my yard. My tree has never produced any breba figs.  It is a mid season fig and its main crop figs are producing figs after Celeste stops producing. It is a good second cultivar to have if you only have a Celeste.....like many people in Louisiana do.  I highly recommend it. FYI....this variety has extended Herman2's fig season in New Jersey into late summer early fall. He too finds merit in this particular cultivar. It deserves wider distribution.

Dan
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Dan,


Thanks so much for the information. I did find some threads on-line about this fig and it seems like a keeper. I will call Jason at Petals from the past to ask  him which LSU black variety it is, just to make sure.

Thanks again.

Navid.

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Navid,

Per this thread http://figs4funforum.websitetoolbox.com/post?id=5124385, I have not followed up with Jason. Please let us know when/if you do.

JD

Navid,

I had posted pictures of LSU Late Black and Scott's Black (fig and leaf) in the thread that JD posted...........not the best pictures in the world due to poor lighting.  I have a picture of St. Gabriel Black posted in some other thread. I'm too lazy to look for it........

Dan
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Anyone know where to get LSU Scott's Black via mailorder?  Would prefer cuttings but would also consider a smaller plant if the price was reasonable.

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Beyond,

I think I can help. I will check once I return from travel.

I got one from James Robin in Louisiana about 20 months ago, I think.

JD and Dan,


Thank you for the links to the pics. I will call Jason this afternoon and will ask him which LSU blk. it is.

Beyondista,
You can buy it from Petals from the past nursery. They have the LSU blk in 1 gallon for $9.00 and 3 gallon. They charge only $10.00 for shipping (I think they only ship the 1 gallon ones since the one in 3 gallon are a little heavier). I usually go there and buy my trees. 

Navid.



Navid, I don't see LSU Black listed on their website.  I see LSU Purple & O'Rourke listed...

Beyondista,


I know they don't have that on their website, but they do have it on their field
 You can just call them and ask for Jason or whoever works outside with fruit trees. 
They also have few more varieties that are not listed on their site but have them available outside. 
I usually go there whenever I am in Birmingham and buy my plants. 
They did not have the LSU black last year, or I didn't see it.....

Navid.


JD,


I called them today but they were closed. I left a voicemail for Jason to call me. As soon he tells me which LSU blk it is I will let you all know.

Navid.

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Dan,


I have a question for you since you know more about the figs from LA. 
Is there a black Italian heirloom fig that is from somewhere in south, possibly Louisiana? Or was this tree originated from Italy? 
Last year I bought couple of them (1 yr. old) and they produced lots of figs which tasted very sweet, like honey, the fruit's color was dark purple to black with dark pink inside. 

Navid

There is a fig being sold in retail nurseries as "Black Italian".  That particular strain was "found" growing in the New Orleans area. It was brought to the US by Italian immigrants many years ago. It was propagated and first introduced into commerce by the Becnel family in Belle Chase, La. The Becnel's have a nursery in Eastern Texas, which has this cultivar for sale. It is available at a few nurseries in the south.  It is a very good tasting sweet fig. The eye is colored a bright almost fluorescent pink.....not quite as pronounced as the Chico Strawberry fig.

"Native Black" is another black Italian fig that was "found" in the New Orleans area. It too is a completely different cultivar. It is much like a LARGE Black Mission fig. It was introduced to the retail trade by the Becnel's too. Same with the Smith fig.....it is an Italian heirloom fig "found" in the New Orleans area and introduced by the Becnel's.


Also, I personally have "found" yet another "black Italian" heirloom variety that was likewise brought into south Louisiana many years ago by Italian immigrants. It is a different cultivar. My little tree was killed to the ground this past winter......so it is unlikely for it to fruit for me this year.

Here's a link to a Texas wholesale nursery that sells this particular fig:

http://www.brazoscitrusnursery.com/fig.htm

Dan
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Dan,


Thank you for the clarification. I bought my blk Italians from Petals from the past last year. Unfortunately my aunts like those trees so much that I gave both of my blk Italians to them as a gift. I am going to buy couple more of them next week.
One more question, out of LSU blk, Blk Italian and O'Rourke which one is your best pick based on fruit's taste and growing rates in LA's weather?

I have not eaten as many O'Rourkes as the other cultivars, only a few from some else's tree....not mine That was because of the O'Rourke/Improved Celeste confusion that exists.  Hopefully, you know that I have proven that they are two entirely different cultivars....and both excellent figs.

I would rank O'Rourke as number 1.....followed by Scott's Black and then the Black Italian. However, personal tastes will differ. The eye on Black Italian is a bit larger than on the other two figs. I would not give up growing any of these cultivars.....partly because they fruit at different times and mostly because they taste so good.

Dan
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Yes, the O'Rourke and the Improved Celeste are two different figs, one with longer neck than the other one and slightly different taste too, as O'Rourke being sweeter. However I lost my O'Rourke last winter due to freezing. Last week I bought a 3 gallon O'Rourke to replace my lost one. 

Since this year will be the first year that will have the LSU blk can't comment on its taste, but O'Rourke is my number one, followed by VDB and then Blk Italian.


Navid

You will enjoy your Scott's Black (LSU Black) too. It is a great fig to have in any collection.

Dan
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Dan,


It sounds like a good fig to have, but I might get crazy and buy 2 more of it when I go there next week (right now I have only one). I plan to buy 4-5 fig trees and some Persimmon, lemon and other fruit trees when I go there. 

Navid
 

Dan,


Do you recommend the Durio nursery at Opelousas, LA for buying fig trees from? I was thinking about taking a road trip there next time that I am in Birmingham, AL. There are about 7hrs from my place at Birmingham.
I am sure some members have purchased fig trees from them, if so, would you recommend them to others? How tall or healthy are their 1 gallons trees?

Thank you all.

I've wanted to order from Durio for a long time.  I had a list made up and everything. 

The thing that stopped me was the damned high shipping prices.

I just sent a 1gal tree, packed with moist soil, bundled in a shoebox-sized box for about $8.50 by USPS priority mail.  It took me about 15 minutes to pack it, take it to the post office and get it out.  If I would have sent it "cheapest shipping possible", the price would have been $5.20.

I have heard nothing but good things about the plants.  But as someone that ships a few fig trees per year to folks, I cant get on board with those prices.  If it was $20 for 3 one-gallon plants or something, I think I'd bite. 

I understand he combines shipping - I think I recall it being $20 the first tree, $10 each add'l tree.  I would even pay $10/tree.  It just chaps my ass that I can practically get a whole tree shipped to me for $20 from one of the other forum members, JV, BB or RW, for example.

Jason,

Totally agree with you about their shipping cost. I did call them this morning and the person on the other side of the line said, they will charge $20.00 for a small box that can contain 2 1 gallon pots or $40.00 for a large box that can contain 4 1 gallon pots or 1 3 gallon pot. They would charge the same price if they wanted to send it to AL or any other states, I would think the shipping coast would be cheaper to ship it to one of the neighboring states, but its not. 

Any other inputs will be greatly appreciated.

Navid

Navid,

Yes, I can recommend Durio nursery. Dalton is running a real nice small nursery. He took over the business only a few years ago following in his dad's footsteps.  They sells lots of stuff besides fig trees.....rare flowers and plants.  The sizes of his trees vary.  FYI.....it is quite possible some of the fig trees you buy from him actually originated from me.

Should you make a visit to the Opelousas area, you can also visit James Robin's KT nursery which is only about 5 miles away. Should you go there, you will never forget your visit.....JR is a one of a kind true Cajun. You usually can buy plants from him before he sells to mail order. You can inspect your plants too while there.


Dan
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