Downsizing. Help me decide which varieties to get rid of!

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nycfig

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Posted 1432904621	Reply with quote #1

Okay, thanks to this forum, my collecting, rooting and growing skills have improved: Enough already! Some varieties have to go or I'll be living in that shed! Most of them will be given away. Some will go to Bass' for the NE get-together. A few will go on eBay. Please don't PM yet. There are over 100 plants and probably more than 50 varieties. I've completed most of the eliminations and this is the last round of eliminations that I need a little help with. After this, a 'give-away' list can be compiled. If someone should notice one of their varieties that was from a give-away on the forum, that plant will re-gifted and the person that gets it will know who it came from. I am extremely grateful to everyone on this forum and I assure you that there will be no hurt feelings. It's just time to downsize. Time to start giving back. I haven't tasted any of these and they are all small. They were collected for various reasons which seemed very important at the time but not so important now. So, for whatever reasons you may have (you don't have to post the reasons) which 3 varieties would you keep from this list?: Ficus Afghanistanica (Ornamental only.) Ma Si Yi Jin Ao Fen (Not) (Wanted to compare with Orphan. Probably a Brunswick) Orphan Bournabat Keddie Petit Negri Sicilian Dark (GM#11) (Already have a Gino's) Emerald Strawberry Danny's Delight Desert King Italian AS (Unk) (Closely resembles Noire de Caromb. Already have a mature Kathleen's Black) Excel Cucumber Melanzana __________________ Danny NYC Z7a It's all about the figs! Facebook: NYCfigs Buying Fig Trees and Cuttings From the Internet

Jerry_M

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Posted 1432906088	Reply with quote #2

I'll gladly buy Bournabat if you decide to go that route. It's one Texas A&M reccommends for my area. I'll pay a reasonable price plus shipping & handling. Thanks __________________ Jerry Canyon Lake, TX 8b Wanted: Cajun Gold, Louisiana Honey, Schar Israel-114 grams

brettjm

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Posted 1432907515	Reply with quote #3

Nice packed yard. All figs? or do you have some other goodies? Can't comment much on your question, though....I've got mostly baby fig trees right now myself. __________________ In GA, Zone 7b/8a Wish list: more space to put in figs.

COGardener

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Posted 1432907949	Reply with quote #4

The petite negra and danny's delight are reported as must haves. I'm growing both, don't expect fruit till next year however. Can't say anything about a third from the list, I'm not familiar with them. Good luck figuring it out.

nycfig

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Posted 1432908853	Reply with quote #5

A few citrus trees in there too. Thanks for your input, Scott. __________________ Danny NYC Z7a It's all about the figs! Facebook: NYCfigs Buying Fig Trees and Cuttings From the Internet

jdsfrance

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Posted 1432909596	Reply with quote #6

Hi nycfig, Did they fruit for you already ? If so, keep the best and/or most productive, or some original / different from what you already have . But, if in a rush, then because you're in Zone 7, keep DK , then Melanzana, then Excel - But you're personal experience at your own location should be your guide . Beg for 2 years more testing... I would drop "Ficus Afghanistanica" for sure because of scarce fruit. __________________ ------------------------ Climate from -25°C to + 35°C Only cold hardy figtrees can make it here

FiggyFrank

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Posted 1432909759 · Edited	Reply with quote #7

I haven't heard of most of those, so I can't help. I just wanted to say I know exactly what you're going through. About two years ago, I had just about the same amount as you do. Today, I have under 20 varieties and 30-some trees. __________________ Frank zone 7a - VA

nycfig

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Posted 1432910594	Reply with quote #8

jds - None of them have given me fruit. They are small, but I have room for 3 more after the downsize. Thanks for the input. __________________ Danny NYC Z7a It's all about the figs! Facebook: NYCfigs Buying Fig Trees and Cuttings From the Internet

brettjm

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Posted 1432910681 · Edited	Reply with quote #9

If it does help...I can at least make some speculations from what I've read about. I keep toying with the idea of getting a Desert king for the sole purpose of extending a growing season. Supposed to be one of the first brebas of the year. Downside? I've read that it doesn't produce in the first couple years. If you've got a couple early ripeners among your keepers that can compete with desert king, I might skip it. Then again I might not. (helpful, right?) Excel is one I have growing that I'm really excited about. A few members rave about it...see here http://figs4funforum.websitetoolbox.com/post/excel-figs-ripening-5924963?highlight=excel&pid=1274249600#post1274249600 . My little figlets are growing like weeds...they're among my best rooters/growers so far. Emerald Strawberry (143-36) is apparently hit/miss for folks. I've got a little one growing, and its supposed to have a really unique (even spicy) flavor that some love and some don't care for. Many also report it may not produce for several years. Might not be worth waiting several years only to find you don't care for it. That's about all I've got. Dunno how much it helps. Obviously having not tasted any of these 3 in person, take it all with a grain of salt. __________________ In GA, Zone 7b/8a Wish list: more space to put in figs.

figpig_66

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Posted 1432913644	Reply with quote #10

If you type each name in the seach bar along with ripe in front of each name you will see ripe fruit from each variety and a nice description of the growth. This way you know what you want to keep the most. This is how i decide what to seach for or what to give or trade. Hope this helps __________________ RICHIE BONI HICKORY LOUISIANA ZONE 8B WARM HUMID WINRERS ARE VERY MILD LOW 20'S BUT WARMS RIGHT UP DURING THE DAY. SUMMER IS EXTREMELY HOT & HUMID 100 degrees 100% humidity fig tree grow like crazy but some split from rain & humidity Wish list. Col de dame blanc Col de rimada Lsu numbered figs

71GTO

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Posted 1432914043	Reply with quote #11

I had bournabat and it seems pretty certain that that fig needs the wasp. My tree always dropped the figs and they looked like capricious inside. I got rid of it. __________________ NJ z7a Wish list :

ChrisK

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Posted 1432914659	Reply with quote #12

I would keep Petit Negri, DK and Excel. Best of luck with whatever you deside boss. __________________ ChrisK Atl GA Zone 7b-8a

nycfig

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Posted 1432916018	Reply with quote #13

Thanks, Brett. It does help a little. Chris, thanks for your input. __________________ Danny NYC Z7a It's all about the figs! Facebook: NYCfigs Buying Fig Trees and Cuttings From the Internet

DaveL

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Posted 1432917391	Reply with quote #14

Danny for your zone I would go with the Excel, Danny Delight, and the Desert King. If you don't go with the first two, PM me. __________________ Dave Waterford, Ct. Zone 6B

Rewton

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Posted 1432917842	Reply with quote #15

Danny, it's hard to answer your question without knowing what varieties you have decided to definitely keep. For example, I would say Petite Negri is expendable if you are keeping Violette de Bordeaux because they are supposed to be nearly identical. I might be misremembering but is Danny's Delight a Mt. Etna type? If so, it could be expendable if you already are keeping a couple of those. Melanzana is related to Longue d'Aout/Nordland/Niagra Black types if memory serves. So if you have that group covered already then it could be expendable. __________________ Steve MD zone 7a

Rob

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Posted 1432918550	Reply with quote #16

OK. I will only speak to those varieties with which I have personal experience. It may or may not be useful to you, so do with it as you will.: Bournabat - I had it for a couple years, it never bore fruit, got rid of it. Petit Negri - had for a few years. Last couple years it fruited for me. Delicious. However, most of the top growth died back this past winter. Don't know why. It was in the garage just like all my others, none of which had any amount of die back. I am in a similar situation as you, where I have too many trees and am going to get rid of some. So, I chucked it out back in the woods, even though it was starting to sprout from the bottom part of the stem. It would have been one of my keepers if it had been healthy. I figured it was an opportunity to thin the herd, and I know it is readily available from retail sources (bought mine from Edible Landscaping) if I want to buy it later. Danny's Delight - had it for 4 years. Hasn't fruited yet, but there are a bunch of brebas on it, so we'll see what happens this year. Desert King - I have a White King, which maybe is the same thing? It does produce a nice breba crop, which is good for having some good figs in June or July. Excel - I have had it for 4 years. Fruited last year, was good. Don't know if I'd call it a must have. But for now it's a keeper. My plan is to see how all my trees do this summer and get rid of at least 20% of them. Probably will want to actually ship them in the fall though, since that is a good time to bare-root. So you folks keep your eye out. Might even be some sought after varieties that for whatever reason didn't do much for me. __________________ Rob Maryland Zone 7 http://rbfigs.webs.com/

nycfig

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Posted 1432918614	Reply with quote #17

Steve, Understand what you're saying and I tried to cover the bases. Have a large VdB and a few good Mt. Etna types as well as LdA. Just have room for 3 more and wanted to get some opinions. I could blindly pick but wanted to get some opinions. Thanks for the input. Dave, thanks. DK is starting to look like a stand-out. __________________ Danny NYC Z7a It's all about the figs! Facebook: NYCfigs Buying Fig Trees and Cuttings From the Internet

cis4elk

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Posted 1432918794	Reply with quote #18

I'm going to say similar to what Steve just said. Petit Negra is a great fig, but there are several varieties which are very close and by the numbers you mentioned..I'm sure you likely have one of them. DK, maybe, it just depend if you have other heavy breba figs. Excel, like already mentioned, has gotten pretty heavy praise over the last year. Those are the 3 that jumped out to me. __________________ Calvin Littleton,CO z5/6 Wants List: For everyone to clean-up after themselves and co-exist peacefully. Let's think more about the future of our planet and less about ourselves. :)

nycfig

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Posted 1432920174	Reply with quote #19

Calvin, I have a mature English Brown Turkey that produces early but it looks like DK will be the first keeper from this batch. Thanks for your input. 2 more to go. __________________ Danny NYC Z7a It's all about the figs! Facebook: NYCfigs Buying Fig Trees and Cuttings From the Internet

nycfig

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Posted 1432920375	Reply with quote #20

Rob - Missed your post. Decided on the DK already. I see Petit Negri and Excel popping up a little more than the others. Excel might be the second choice. Thanks for your input. __________________ Danny NYC Z7a It's all about the figs! Facebook: NYCfigs Buying Fig Trees and Cuttings From the Internet

don_sanders

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Posted 1432925302	Reply with quote #21

I'd keep the Danny's Delight and Desert King. They are two on my list to try to grow. Still looking for the Danny's Delight. __________________ Don - Columbus, OH. Zone 5b/6a Wish list: Rafed/Adriano's Genovese Nero, Your favorite fig.

rcantor

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Posted 1432927066	Reply with quote #22

Please give the Bournabat to someone in California. It definitely needs the wasp. I'm in with DK - tastes good, very early. I haven't tried the rest. Good luck! __________________ Zone 6, MO Wish list: Galicia Negra, De La Reina - Pons, Genovese Nero - Rafed's, Sbayi, Souadi, Acciano, Any Rimada, Sodus Sicilian, any Bass, Pons or Axier fig, any great tasting fig.

nycfig

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Posted 1432927829	Reply with quote #23

OK. Bournabat is off the list. Going to someone in Cali. Thanks Bob. __________________ Danny NYC Z7a It's all about the figs! Facebook: NYCfigs Buying Fig Trees and Cuttings From the Internet

adipose

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Posted 1432935616	Reply with quote #24

I'm interested in any trees. I am in Cali. __________________ Wish List: sbayi, hmari, niagara black, black ischia

rafaelissimmo

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Posted 1432936596	Reply with quote #25

Keep the DK! Just wait it out, I have a good feeling about it. __________________ Zone 7b, Queens, New York

pino

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Posted 1432989473	Reply with quote #26

Dany you have tough decisions to make. Decide on your fig goals and requirements and take it from there. If it was me I would have as many early ripening figs as possible, good tasting easy growing prolific figs, some novelty/nostalgia ones... Whatever you decide I am sure you will change your mind many times. That's OK in the end you will probably just get rid of a few...LOL __________________ Pino, zone 6, Niagara, JCJ Acres Wish; Peace on earth and more figs Italian 258, Galicia Negra, Luv, trade suggestions welcome.

nycfig

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Posted 1432990008	Reply with quote #27

Quote: Originally Posted by pino I am sure you will change your mind many times. That's OK in the end you will probably just get rid of a few...LOL This is true. It's not easy balancing best tasting varieties with early ripening varieties here in the northeast. Add space constraints to that equation and your head really starts to spin. Already keeping proven producers for my location with a few novelties sprinkled in. __________________ Danny NYC Z7a It's all about the figs! Facebook: NYCfigs Buying Fig Trees and Cuttings From the Internet

Sas

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Posted 1433004170	Reply with quote #28

Once you care for a plant for a couple of years it becomes extremely hard to send it away. Some varieties if kept long enough might surprise you as they are late to produce or perhaps improperly cared for. If it is a question of space or the inability to care for them, then all bets are off. Just keep the current superstars or the ones that are already producing best. __________________ Sas from North Austin TX Zone 8B Wish list: Becane

nycfig

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Posted 1433195338	Reply with quote #29

Keeping Desert King, Petite Negri and Excel. Thanks to everyone for your input. __________________ Danny NYC Z7a It's all about the figs! Facebook: NYCfigs Buying Fig Trees and Cuttings From the Internet

nycfig

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Posted 1435375877	Reply with quote #30

I know it's a little late but I'm finally starting. Have a lot that must go. First one is an unknown. Mother tree is in SoCal. Very strong grower. Almost all cuttings of this variety rooted for me. Looks to be LdA. Very long purple colored figs. I'm growing it side by side with LdA and can't wait to see how it turns out. Here's the plant: If you would like to add this beautiful variety to your collection for free, please post here. Cover the shipping cost which should be around $6 - $8. I'll ship by Priority on Monday morning. __________________ Danny NYC Z7a It's all about the figs! Facebook: NYCfigs Buying Fig Trees and Cuttings From the Internet

bigbadbill

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Posted 1435379288	Reply with quote #31

I'd love to have it. Thanks, Bill __________________ SE Pa, zone 6b https://www.facebook.com/offthebeatenpathnurseries

nycfig

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Posted 1435408792	Reply with quote #32

Bill - PM sent. __________________ Danny NYC Z7a It's all about the figs! Facebook: NYCfigs Buying Fig Trees and Cuttings From the Internet

Brooklynmatty

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Posted 1435414868	Reply with quote #33

Hey Danny. Let me know when you other figs available - I am local and can pickup and take some off your hand and give them a new home ;) Let me know. Thanks Matt. __________________ Matt - Long Island - Zone 7B Wishlist: CDD Roja, Planera, CDD Rimada Please use the following thread if your growing my "unknown Sheepshead" to track your progress. http://figs4funforum.websitetoolbox.com/post/saved-brooklyn-tree-unknown-sheepshead-community-growlog-7808733?pid=1290171384

nycfig

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Posted 1435633220	Reply with quote #34

Bournabat is next. May need the wasp. A lot of conflicting information. Grown from a UCD cutting. Living in a 1 gallon pot. Post here if you want it for free. Pay shipping only. Should be $6-$8. Good luck to whoever gets it. __________________ Danny NYC Z7a It's all about the figs! Facebook: NYCfigs Buying Fig Trees and Cuttings From the Internet

Greenguy

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Posted 1435633684	Reply with quote #35

I will take it if no one else has Cian __________________ wish list pananas purple, i258, any type of mutation

nycfig

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Posted 1435634232	Reply with quote #36

Quote: Originally Posted by Greenguy I will take it if no one else has Cian PM sent. __________________ Danny NYC Z7a It's all about the figs! Facebook: NYCfigs Buying Fig Trees and Cuttings From the Internet

nycfig

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Posted 1444053907	Reply with quote #37

Fall is upon us in the NE. Getting all the pots ready to make the move into the shed. Smaller pots have to go. I have a non-variagated Jolly tiger that's growing well. There was a small green branch on my Jolly Tiger that had a variegated leaf on the lowest node. That leaf dried up and fell off. The remainder of the leaves were non-variegated so I cut it off below the variegated node and treated it as a summer cutting. The cutting took off and now I have a small plant for someone that would like to give it a home. Just pay the shipping; usually $6 - $9. PM only if interested. __________________ Danny NYC Z7a It's all about the figs! Facebook: NYCfigs Buying Fig Trees and Cuttings From the Internet

nycfig

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Posted 1444059488	Reply with quote #38

Taken - Thanks and good luck! __________________ Danny NYC Z7a It's all about the figs! Facebook: NYCfigs Buying Fig Trees and Cuttings From the Internet

nycfig

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Posted 1444779537	Reply with quote #39

Squirrel jumped on Patrick's Supergiant and broke off a branch. So I have a fresh 12 or 13 inch cutting to give away. If anyone wants it just PM. Free. Patrick's supergiant was super sweet for me this year. Kids loved it! __________________ Danny NYC Z7a It's all about the figs! Facebook: NYCfigs Buying Fig Trees and Cuttings From the Internet

nycfig

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Posted 1444779727	Reply with quote #40

Taken. Thanks! __________________ Danny NYC Z7a It's all about the figs! Facebook: NYCfigs Buying Fig Trees and Cuttings From the Internet

nycfig

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Posted 1445791535 · Edited	Reply with quote #41

Giving away some small plants grown from last of the UCD cuttings. Free for postage. Usually around $5 or $6. Please PM with variety that you'd like. Will ship Monday. Golden Celeste TAKEN Rattlesnake Island TAKEN Beall TAKEN Sucrette TAKEN __________________ Danny NYC Z7a It's all about the figs! Facebook: NYCfigs Buying Fig Trees and Cuttings From the Internet

waynea

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Posted 1445793759	Reply with quote #42

Very generous Danny, already rooted and established plants, can't get any better. For members having trouble rooting cuttings...here is your chance.

nycfig

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Posted 1445813199	Reply with quote #43

Rattlesnake Island is still available. __________________ Danny NYC Z7a It's all about the figs! Facebook: NYCfigs Buying Fig Trees and Cuttings From the Internet

Hobo62288

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Posted 1445813428	Reply with quote #44

I can't find any info about it as far as taste, size, closed or open eye, anything really. The found on post that didn't exactly paint a great picture so I'm still trying to figure out how it will do here in hot/humid NC __________________ Bryan \| Zone 7 \| NC Wish List: CdDG, CdDN, BM, Barnisotte Gris, KB, LSU Red, Preto

waynea

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Posted 1445815779	Reply with quote #45

DNA at UC Davis says it is the same as Brunswick, Capitole Long, Doree, and Red Italian ...Brunswick, Rattlesnake Island, Capitola Long and Red Italian - Have tasted Brunswick--excellent and rich tasting These are from some previous threads....just type in rattlesnake island in the search and you will find several threads

Smungung

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Posted 1445820145	Reply with quote #46

I might be interested in the rattlesnake island. What fruit does it produce and is it one of those figs that require a wasp? Is rattlesnake a Brunswick? If it is no thank you I have to many cuttings of it __________________ Matthew Mei Age:15 Zone 6A Secaucus, New Jersey Aquarist any questions pertaining to fish shoot me a message always willing to help! :) Gardener Fisherman

Smyfigs

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Posted 1445881128	Reply with quote #47

Danny: I cannot offer much of an opinion as I am a newbee at growing fig trees. However, I am in California and would appreciate even cuttings and happy to pay you for them if you can spare some. Thanks! __________________ Meg-Hardiness Zone 10a Looking for... Socorro Blk Wuhan Jolly Tiger Lamperia Preta Herschtetten St. Jean Black Ischia "The best way to show my gratitude is to accept everything, even my problems, with joy." ~ Mother Teresa "Do not pass by a man in need for you may be the hand of God to him." ~Proverbs 3:27~ "He performs wonders that cannot be fathomed, miracles that cannot be counted." ~Job 5:4

OttawanZ5

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Posted 1445888124	Reply with quote #48

Personally I will not get rid of Emerald Strawberry (if it is 143-36 synonym as I have read about it). It thrives for me and ripens. Melanzana is good in my location most of the years. Desert King has its own purpose and is classic breba fig here. The brebas always ripen. __________________ Ottawan-Z5a, Canada

rcantor

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Posted 1445890639	Reply with quote #49

The UCD DNA tests are not sufficient to determine that 2 figs are identical or even that their fruit is similar. Their tests account for about 2/3rds of the DNA variation, that means about 1/3rd of the DNA variation is ignored. If you want to know if RI is similar to Brunswick the best way to find out is to start a new thread titled something like, "Is Brunswick the Same as Rattlesnake Island?" or "Rattlesnake Island vs Brunswick: Who has both and can tell me the differences if any?" Then you'll know :) __________________ Zone 6, MO Wish list: Galicia Negra, De La Reina - Pons, Genovese Nero - Rafed's, Sbayi, Souadi, Acciano, Any Rimada, Sodus Sicilian, any Bass, Pons or Axier fig, any great tasting fig.

Smungung

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Posted 1445907663	Reply with quote #50

Awwa no more trees available. :( __________________ Matthew Mei Age:15 Zone 6A Secaucus, New Jersey Aquarist any questions pertaining to fish shoot me a message always willing to help! :) Gardener Fisherman

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