tinyfish
1472353452
Posted 1481299024
Reply with quote #1
Any information on ebay seller Robrod815.
Bluemalibu
1448153498
Posted 1481299717
Reply with quote #2
No first-hand experience with the seller, but I'd tread cautiously... previous feedback reflects dead and dried up cuttings received that bore bark that was peeling away. The seller is located within NYC and only has Ponte Tresa and Dall 'Osso for sale, two of the historically highest netting cultivars. What's wrong with this picture?
Fig Heaven. No fog, no snow; just lots of sunshine!
HarveyC
1212433117
Posted 1481301213
Reply with quote #3
https://figs4funforum.websitetoolbox.com/post?id=8264726 https://figs4funforum.websitetoolbox.com/post?id=7247685 (reports indicate that this Robrod815 should probably be added to the list in this thread)Harvey - Correia Farms
http://www.figaholics.com https://www.facebook.com/Figaholics
brianm
1389664758
Posted 1481314200
Reply with quote #4
Run
Dave
1312388324
Posted 1481320022
Reply with quote #5
Fast..............................
Connecticut - Zone 6B Wish List - Bordissot negra rimada
chucklikestofish
1391263141
Posted 1481320581
Reply with quote #6
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dave
tinyfish
1472353452
Posted 1481325188
Reply with quote #7
Thanks for the comments everyone
chucklikestofish
1391263141
Posted 1481330982
Reply with quote #8
run forest run ~!LOL ~!
tsparozi
1470160644
Posted 1481335292
Reply with quote #9
I did a quick run through ebay doing a search for US only based fig cuttings. I was blown away by the sheer number of scammer fig ads currently posted by known scammer identities. Buyer beware!!!!
Gardencrochet
1364702298
waynea
1362316304
Posted 1481588801
Reply with quote #11
Someone didn't run, just sold Ponte Tresa cuttings for $113, I really do hope it's legit... time will tell.
tsparozi
1470160644
Posted 1481596894
Reply with quote #12
Sad....
Beyondista
1288798678
Posted 1481723964
Reply with quote #13
Tony above mentioned a known list of eBay scammers. Is that posted somewhere?
http://facebook.com/beyondvineyard https://www.facebook.com/driftlessgrove http://www.ebay.com/usr/sacredgroveorganics
tsparozi
1470160644
Posted 1481725918
Reply with quote #14
@Beyondista... Not sure that there is a scammer LIST maintained however there is a "Trusted EBay Sellers" list on the OurFigs forum and numerous discussion threads regarding the whole scammer situation and the identities that are used by the people involved. There is even a post related to some eBay sales analysis done by several members that highlight just how successful these scammers are and also just how apathethic eBay is to the problem which has been brought to their attention numerous times. I guess from eBay's perspective, since they derive profits from sales and the scammers are making thousands of dollars worth of sales that they get a share of, they don't want to rock the boat and in many ways, they have processes in place that actually aid and abet the scammers. Feel free to do searches on the forum database and you will find the info I was referring to...
Beyondista
1288798678
Posted 1481726217
Reply with quote #15
@Tony, isn't it possible to tell the scammers by their eBay ratings or do some of them have accounts with no negative reviews?
http://facebook.com/beyondvineyard https://www.facebook.com/driftlessgrove http://www.ebay.com/usr/sacredgroveorganics
tsparozi
1470160644
Posted 1481728661
Reply with quote #16
@Beyondista ...I mentioned that ebay has processes in place that actually aid and abet these scammers? One of the frustrating things about eBay is that you can only leave negative reviews about a seller if you don't seek a refund claim. ebay always says, 'Hey, if you are not happy, we will help you resolve the problem with the seller... They do... So you file a claim, ebay contacts the seller and the seller says "fine, send me back the crap i sent you and i will refund you the money". If you do, you get your money and are then barred by ebay from leaving negative comments / rating against the seller and they remove any that you may have previously left. If, on the other hand, you are one of the folks that throw away moldy, decaying cuttings that stink up the area then you have nothing to return to the scammer. The scammer then says to ebay "hey i will refund with a return but no refunds if no returns" and you know what... eBay agrees... Ebay then finds against your claim and you are again barred from leaving negative comments / ratings against the seller... The only negatives that these scammers get are in the few cases where people eat their losses, do not file a claim for a refund and then take the time to post a negative against the scammer. The end result is that most of these hoods manage, with ebay's help, to retain mid 90's and above satisfaction ratings... You cant provide feedback if you don't buy and if you buy and don't want to eat your decayed cuttings, you can't leave negative ratings. Now I did mention that these folks are successful. The analysis that was done suggested that these scammers were in some cases making hundreds of sales of each variety they were selling. Imagine that ebay actually believes that a single auction can account for a hundred sales of a cutting and that it is legitimate... Anyone on this forum have the ability to sell 100 packages of cuttings of a single variety? The total dollar values of these sales is, in my minds eye, staggering. You would think that in some way, these folks would get stopped. They do not. The current number of scammer auctions and immediate sales listing on eBay today is amazing and has actually been growing recently. They have also started to mimic the presentation methodology used by trusted sellers and in many cases, actually steal old sales photos (and forum photos) and use them... Lastly, there have been indications that some of these scammers are joining the various forums, setting up identities and acting as moles to benefit their criminal activity. Buyer beware... do your research and buy from trusted eBay sources and forum members....
