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Bass

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Posted 1249043024	Reply with quote #1

What type of disease would you say this is? it's been humid and rainy here in Pa. This Black Mission is the only one with this problem. There's a sticky substance on the skin. It's probably from the sap, but not sure. .. __________________ Pennsylvania http://www.treesofjoy.com https://www.facebook.com/pages/Trees-of-Joy/110193909021138

Dieseler

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Posted 1249053697	Reply with quote #2

Back in the old neighborhood i had a neighbor with a pear tree and the bee's used to sting the fruit it looked just like your fruit minus the white stuff though.

americanfiglover

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Posted 1249060450	Reply with quote #3

Martin you could be on to something. Since the figs are immature the stings would result in milky white latex right. __________________ Jarrett Spokane, WA ZONE 6A Proudly Serving in the United States Armed Forces, 2009-Present Everyone should have a green thumb Figs: Nero600m

gorgi

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Posted 1249066029	Reply with quote #4

I can only testify for the 'white' stuff. I had reported my earlier obeservation last year. The general consensus was that it is just latex oozing out, most probably due to overwatering and/or excessive rain (which right now; the whole NE is getting). __________________ George, NJ_z7a.

genecolin

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Posted 1249073847	Reply with quote #5

Bass, have you cut into the fig to see if there is something going on inside the fig. It seems to have a bruise or something at each area of white stuff. Perhaps it's insects damaging the skin causing it to leak and then again with the cold wet summer you've had, perhaps the fruit is starting to rot before it ripens. Just my untrained thoughts. __________________ From the bayou, "gene" zone 9 Houma, La.

pitangadiego

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Posted 1249074613	Reply with quote #6

Looks like two issues; 1) the white stuff and 2) the bruising/scaring/brown spots. 1) Celeste sometimes has something like the white stuff which oozes from the skin, but is usually clear to light amber in color, and I have always assumed it was sugars that seeped through the skin. Since these figs are not ripe, the same effect would give you latex/sap rather than sugar. 2) The dark spots/areas look more like bruising from hail, bugs, or whatever, unless the figs are deformed and/or have some internal issue which is working its way out. I would agree that cutting one of those in half, particularly through the middle of a spot whould be most enlightening when trying to decide if it is an inside to outside problem or vice versa. __________________ Encanto Farms Nursery http://encantofarms.com http://figs4fun.com http://webebananas.com "pitangadiego" everywhere

Bass

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Posted 1249087109	Reply with quote #7

Thanks for your comments. It does seem to be the sap oozing out. The black spots can be the rain we've been having. It could be this variety is more affected than others, none of my other trees have that problem. I tried to email the folks at UCdavis but got an invalid email. Jon who would you contact? __________________ Pennsylvania http://www.treesofjoy.com https://www.facebook.com/pages/Trees-of-Joy/110193909021138

pitangadiego

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Posted 1249105661	Reply with quote #8

Actually, Louise Ferguson at the Kearny Ag Station in Parlier might be a better resource. __________________ Encanto Farms Nursery http://encantofarms.com http://figs4fun.com http://webebananas.com "pitangadiego" everywhere

paully22

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Posted 1249111002	Reply with quote #9

Bass, I found a few figs from 2 variants exhibiting similar issues. The 2 affected variants are : Malta & Marseillies VS. Others are not affected plus weather was hot.

Fredfig

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Posted 1273524136	Reply with quote #10

Latex ooze spots.. Yellow Jackets sometimes feed on my figs. If not sweet /ripe enough , they do not eat further. But, first bites cause ooze. Also, some beetles bore in on fruits(see the dark spots) and again ooze. But, that is only my observation, sure could be other factors/reasons. Fred

james

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Posted 1273525654	Reply with quote #11

I've had a similar issue on my 'Celeste' figs in years past. It usually shows up after a heavy rain and just before the leave show evidence of Rust. I always assumed it was either a blight or a fungal disease similar to (or even the same as) the one that causes Leaf Rust brought on by excess humidity. The white stuff may be some sort of excrement of the fungus. ~james __________________ In containers - Littleton, CO (zone 5b) In ground - N.E of Austin, TX (zone 8b) 2016 Wish List: Dārk Pōrtuguese, Grānthāms Royāl, Lātarolla, Negrettā, Nōire de Bārbentāne, Rockāway Green, Viōlet Sepōr, Viōlette Dāuphine. Iranian figs are always welcome.

Italiangirl74

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Posted 1273525987	Reply with quote #12

blood/sap from oozing. __________________ Maggie Maria zone 7

james

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Posted 1273529253	Reply with quote #13

Upon thinking about it some more, 'Celeste' did this a few times. 'Kadota', 'Alma' and some other green varieties were more susceptible to the issue. The issues are the black spots. I do not remember seeing anything resembling the white spots before. Attached Images AA0012_060704-08_Fruit.jpg (80.78 KB, 58 views) __________________ In containers - Littleton, CO (zone 5b) In ground - N.E of Austin, TX (zone 8b) 2016 Wish List: Dārk Pōrtuguese, Grānthāms Royāl, Lātarolla, Negrettā, Nōire de Bārbentāne, Rockāway Green, Viōlet Sepōr, Viōlette Dāuphine. Iranian figs are always welcome.

gm421

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Posted 1310691509	Reply with quote #14

Hi Bass, How did you make out with this issue? Geo

Bass

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Posted 1310693724	Reply with quote #15

I haven't received an answer from UCDavis or Kearney, so I did my own research. These spots are called necrotic spots, they are caused by " Long, flexuous, rod-shaped, virus-like particles known as LFP" it is very similar to Mosaic Virus. If you want to read more on it, there's a study done on Mosaic virus in Turkey the top producing fig country. http://journals.tubitak.gov.tr/agriculture/issues/tar-09-33-5/tar-33-5-6-0807-20.pdf __________________ Pennsylvania http://www.treesofjoy.com https://www.facebook.com/pages/Trees-of-Joy/110193909021138

saxonfig

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Posted 1310697740	Reply with quote #16

Bass, It looks like you got to the bottom of what was going on with your figs. It's interesting how similar your fruit looked to the ones pictured in that info. I didn't read the entire file Bass but did you ever get find a reccommendation for a treatment? Is there one? I hope I never have to deal with this but it would be nice to know what to do just in case. __________________ Fig Well And Prosper! Bill - SW KY. Zone 6b. 36.5N I'm fruitnut on ebay.

Dieseler

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Posted 1310698277	Reply with quote #17

Hi Bass have a couple questions about your plant and the necrotic spots displaying in your plants figs. Did you see the same thing on same plant in 2010 Did those figs drop ? Are you seeing the same thing on same plant this year as well. I have not seen those spots shown in the link picture D on my plants yet. But i report last season the FMV display on the figs shown in that link picture "B" on my Pastiliere and this season 2 other types that are young plants and displaying figs for the first time showing FMV on the figs just like the leaves. I'll have to watch them this season and next season then decide if they need to be destroyed.

Herman2

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Posted 1310734605	Reply with quote #18

The Black spots are Fig mosaic virus on fruits. Some infected trees show only ,on leaves,FMV,other,(only a few cultivars),show the FMV,on fruits too. Of course the white spots are sap oozing out,trough Damaged skin,as results of illness.

bullet08

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Posted 1310736109	Reply with quote #19

if they do ripe, are they safe to eat? pete __________________ Pete Durham, NC Zone 7b "don't talk to me about naval tradition. It's nothing but rum, sodomy and the lash." - sir winston churchill "the problem with socialism is that eventually you run out of other people's money." - the baroness thatcher *** all my figs have FMV/FMD, in case you're wondering. * * and... i don't sell things. what little i have will be posted here in winter for first come first serve base to be shared. no, i'm not a socialist...***

terowan

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Posted 1310745711	Reply with quote #20

Bass, thanks for the link. It is interesting in that the authors use the term "Fig Mosaic Disease" (FMD) instead of FMV. They point out the different leaf and fruit symptoms have different Disease Associated Bodies, some viral and possibly some bacterial (phytoplasma). They are still uncertain as to the etiology. __________________ Tim Zone 8a Newport, NC Near the coast.

ajv73

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Posted 1406082517	Reply with quote #21

I realize this is a very old thread. However, I'm experiencing this exact problem. One of my trees - a Marseilles Black VS - has figs exactly like bass' old pictures. Some say it's from bees. Others from FMV. Not sure which to listen to. So I have 2 questions. 1st, can I eat them? 2nd, is there anything to do with a tree that has FMV to help it? Might sound like a basic question. But until I joined this forum I wasn't aware of FMV. Thanks..Tony __________________ Tony V. - Western PA, Zone 6a

Chivas

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Posted 1406120746	Reply with quote #22

I get black marks on figs when they are close to leaves, the rubbing from leaves in the wind etc causes this as well. The sap swelling is either as Herman says from infected fifs leaking out their pores or as someone else said, overwatering and creating root pressure that forces sap to come out in my opinion. __________________ Canada Zone 6B

Savage270

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Posted 1406132995	Reply with quote #23

Are these the same white crystals? I have no idea what they are. its kinda hard to scrape off and its hard like a grain of sand. Anyone know what these are? Some kind of insect poop? They seem to be above the veins in the leaf. All of my plants are under the same growing conditions and they are only on my MBVS. Any ideas on what they are? __________________ David, North GA, zone 7b Growing figs since May 2014. Wish List: Cuttings: Kesariani, Battaglia Green, Col de Dama Rimada, Col de Dame Noir

MGorski

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Posted 1406138945	Reply with quote #24

David, I have seen this on some of my plants, I believe it is fig latex from probably an insect bite. Doesn't seem to be a problem, and probably sends the insect on it's way. Could also be little tears from fast growth or wind or something like that. Mike in Hanover, VA __________________ Zone-7, previously Mescalito

Savage270

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Posted 1406141256	Reply with quote #25

Thanks Mike, I was really scared that those crystals were some adverse reaction to over fertilizing or something. __________________ David, North GA, zone 7b Growing figs since May 2014. Wish List: Cuttings: Kesariani, Battaglia Green, Col de Dama Rimada, Col de Dame Noir

blueboy1977

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Posted 1406143391	Reply with quote #26

David, those almost look like those white woolly aphids or scale. __________________ Rob Zone 9a/9b were the too meet. South Houston Tx Growing: Black Madeira, Smith, LSU Scott's Black, Improved Celeste, VDB, MBvs, RDB, Unknown Peach/Apricot, Salce, Malta Black, Texas BA-1, JH Adriatic, Atreano, CDDN, CDDB, CDDG, Strawberry Verte

Savage270

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Posted 1406144907	Reply with quote #27

Do you mean aphid poop? Or are those the actual animal? I don't think they're alive, they're stuck on and it takes a little pressure to scrape them off but when it is scraped off it has the texture of a grain of sand. I wish I had a magnifying glass :/ __________________ David, North GA, zone 7b Growing figs since May 2014. Wish List: Cuttings: Kesariani, Battaglia Green, Col de Dama Rimada, Col de Dame Noir

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