cyberfarmer
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First, the back story: My sister's house in San Juan Capistrano is on top of a very steep slope of expansive clay soil where there has been some erosion. I don't mean topsoil washing away. I mean when there is a heavy rain, large chunks of the hill may slide down. She hasn't had any severe problems yet, but neighboring houses along the same slope have had some major issues. Many years ago, I had a property where after we did some grading, the engineer recommended that I should plant junipers on the slope since they have deep roots of steel that that would eventually form a web locking the topsoil into place.
Fig trees grow a lot faster than junipers and they seem to have pretty substantial roots. Also, my sister is paranoid about planting anything on her slope because she is afraid to water it, causing more erosion. Fig trees don't need much water and once established, could probably survive just on the fog that rolls off the ocean in the morning. Most importantly, I've got so many duplicates of the more common varieties and they are still multiplying. Over the next couple years, I could probably have her slope covered in second rate fig trees. Does anyone know if fig trees would be suitable for this purpose? I don't want to go through all the trouble planting them unless I can find some evidence to support my theory. Any geological engineer figsters in here?
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DesertDance
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When we bought this place it's steep terrain was covered with junipers and rosemary. Neither of those need water. We are slowly removing the junipers here and there to put in grapevines and figs, but the rosemary stays. It's beautiful, green all year, edible. Fig trees seem to grow out the sides of walls, so I bet you could mix figs and junipers. Problem would be how to harvest the figs on such a steep slope. We have that problem here. I can't even get to some of the trees JD planted. Scary slippery! Suzi
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cyberfarmer
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Harvest? Yea, that's probably something I should think about. These won't be my top notch varieties, but I have way too many Desert King, Hardy Chicago, LSU Purple, Kadota, Brown Turkey, Celeste and other common varieties that I only want to keep one of. They would all be good figs, but I would have the same ones and better at my house, so I probably won't be going over to her house to collect them. If I ever retire and open a farmer's market stand or find some other way to sell the figs, I might find a reason to go pick them. Otherwise, it would be up to the birds and rodents to take care of the fruit. Maybe an entire hillside of unharvested figs is not such a great idea?
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A friend of mine did that with many Texas Ever Bearing fig trees years ago. Today, the trees are over 20' tall and none have FMV. The figs are ginourmus and amazing! He covers them up with one huge net to keep the birds out.
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Cyberfarmer said, "Otherwise, it would be up to the birds and rodents to take care of the fruit. Maybe an entire hillside of unharvested figs is not such a great idea?" Good point there: if fallen figs attracted a bunch of burrowing rodents, they might promote erosion of a hillside. But a hillside of figs would be a beautiful sight. Are there many coyotes, fox or other mid-sized predators in the area that would help keep the rodent population in check?
cyberfarmer
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Originally Posted by crunbar Are there many coyotes, fox or other mid-sized predators in the area that would help keep the rodent population in check?
There is an over-sized Rottweiler that roams the slope, so probably less squirrels than there would be otherwise. I don't think that area has too many gophers or other subterranean critters besides the squirrels.
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GeneDaniels
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Most trees will hold a hillside together, its more about aesthetics than which one will do a good job. And besides, a hillside of figs is a beautiful thought.
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musillid
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Sounds like the fig trees may be the foundation plant or an ecosystem (a la mangrove). Otherwise, why doesn't she plant a drought tolerant (and non-invasive) cover crop to take care of erosion?
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cyberfarmer
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Originally Posted by musillid Sounds like the fig trees may be the foundation plant or an ecosystem (a la mangrove). Otherwise, why doesn't she plant a drought tolerant (and non-invasive) cover crop to take care of erosion?
She is in bankruptcy and struggling to keep her house. I think in the end, she will not lose it, but she has NO MONEY to plant anything. I have too many fig trees, so I figured it would be a win win. She probably won't pick the figs, but at least I would have the option of gathering some of her figs if I want to make the 1 hour drive to her house. I guess if she remains in poverty, at least she can eat/sell figs :)
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musillid
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You are making lemonade out of lemons, my friend! I didn't mean to ask a question with such a sensitive answer and wish her luck.
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