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Miljska figa. The variety 'Miljska figa' (synonyms: 'Mužjanka', 'Mivšca', '?rnica', 'Plavka', 'Ravanka') is the main variety cultivated in the coastal area of Slovenia. The fruits are middle-sized (35 cm3) with a purple skin tinged with blue-black. The fruits are oblate (index (width/length) = 1.28), usually without neck and long slender stalk. The pulp is dark red, of rich flavor and of good quality. The tree is moderately vigorous and very productive. 'Miljska figa' does not have a Breba; the main crop ripens in late August and continues to ripen into October. ............................................................................................................................................... Zelenka. The variety 'Zelenka' is a mid-season variety with high fruity quality. It is the minor variety cultivated in the coastal area of Slovenia. The fruits are large (61 cm3) with green skin and dark red pulp. The fruits are globose (index (width/length) = 1.10), usually with long neck and short thick stalk. The tree is moderately vigorous with spreading habit. 'Zelenka' does not have a Breba; the main crop ripens in late August and continues to ripen into September. ............................................................................................................................................... ?rna Petrovka '?rna Petrovka' has a large, vigorous tree with spreading habit. Usually produces a small number of Breba fruit (0-2 Breba fruit per shoot). Breba fruits are large (70 cm3) with short and thick stalk. The main crop fruits are middle-sized (40 cm3), oblate shaped (index (width/length) = 1.42) with almost no neck. The pulp is purple with aromatic flavour. In Slovenia, the first (Breba) crop ripens in late June; the main crop ripens between 20 August and 10 September. ............................................................................................................................................... Petrova?a bijela The variety 'Petrova?a bijela' (synonyms: 'Petrovka', 'Balunja?a', 'Trkva', 'Mljetkinja', 'Bonboni', 'Cukerini', 'Zuccherini', 'Bletkinja', 'Mletkinja') is the main variety cultivated in the coastal area of the south and central Dalmatia. Its spring fruit is large (width/length = 1.05), juicy, weighing 170 g on average, ripening in late June. The fruit of the main crop is significantly smaller (width/length = 1.15), with an average weight of 50 g, ripening from mid-August to mid-October. The fruit is typically fig-shaped, with the light-green skin that is easily detached from the subcutaneous almost white pulp. The inner part of the pulp is of pale-honey-pink color, very juicy and nutty sweet of taste. Trees are vigorous in growth. Leaves are dark green, palmate, with five-lobed leaf-blades. This variety is exclusively used as table fruit. ............................................................................................................................................... Bjelica The variety 'Bjelica' (synonyms: 'Bjeluša', 'Bilica', 'Latinka', 'Butunka', 'Jarakovka' or 'Božinovka', 'Mostarka', 'Grškinja') is very widely cultivated in the areas of south and central Dalmatia and in the Neretva valley. This is a typical two-crop variety, but its Breba crop is not edible. The fruits of main crop are edible, medium-sized (width/length = 1.00), weighing 55 g on average. Ripening begins in early August, lasting for about a month. The fruit is elongated, blunt-shaped, with a completely short neck. The skin is pale-green and thick, easily detached from the pulp. The pulp under the skin is light-white, and inside of pale-honey color, very juicy and nutty sweet of taste. Trees are very vigorous in growth and pretty prolific. Leaves are dark green. The leaf-blade is palmate and most often three-lobed, with very shallow sinuses. It is recommended as quality table variety. Moreover, the fruits are also suitable for drying. ............................................................................................................................................... Vodenja?a The variety 'Vodenja?a' (synonyms: 'Plakavica', 'Vodara', 'Klapavica', 'Trebinjka', 'Turkuša') is widely cultivated around Metkovi?nd Dubrovnik. This is a two-crop variety, the pulps of Breba crop is rarely edible, while the fruit of main crop is large (width/length = 1.02), weighing 60 g on average, ripening in early August, which makes it the earliest fig variety. The fruit skin is green and thin, easily detached from the pulp, which is light-white under the skin, pink in the middle, nutty sweetish of taste. It is vigorous in growth and moderately prolific. The leaf is medium-sized, of dark-green color, while the leaf-blade is palmate and five-lobed. This is an exclusively table fig variety. ............................................................................................................................................... Termenja?a The variety 'Termenja?a' (synonyms: 'Terminica', 'Termulica') is widely cultivated throughout Dalmatia. This is a two-crop variety, of which Breba crop pulps and falls in June, while the main crop develops into a small (width/length = 0.86), edible fruit weighing 45 g on average, ripening in the fist decade of August. The fruit is of irregular elongated shape, with a slightly curved neck by the stalk. The skin is light green, easily detached from the pulp, which is pale, almost completely white, while the central part is of reddish wine color, nutty sweet of taste. It is vigorous in growth, with loose canopy. Leaves are medium-sized, five-lobed, with deep sinuses. ............................................................................................................................................... Zamor?ica The variety 'Zamorcica' has synonyms: 'Zamojcica', 'Barsanica', 'Dobra smokva', 'Visilica', 'Suševka', 'Sušeoka', 'Sušelica', 'Hrvatska smokva', 'Sušeljka', 'Poljarica', 'Bilica', 'Manjukva', 'Tenica', 'Tjenica', 'Adriatica' (California), 'Dalmatskaya' (Crimea). Zamor?ica is Croatian the best and the prevalent fig variety. It is cultivated along the whole coast, mostly on islands. It has also spread without Croatia, in the Ukraine and U.S.A. (California). It is a typical one-crop plant, with a small pyriform fruit (width/length = 1.08), weighing around 30 g on average. The skin is of light green color, slightly turning into yellowish green at the time of ripening. It is thin, easily detached from the pulp, which is white yellowish under the skin and honey pink in the middle, very juicy and sweet, with pleasant aroma. Ripening begins in the first half of August, lasting for about a month. Trees are medium to very vigorous and pretty prolific. The leaf is medium-sized, and the leaf-blade palmate and usually five-lobed. Dry fruits of this variety are particularly valued due to gentle thin skin and good quality, as well as softness and fine taste. ............................................................................................................................................... Zimica The variety 'Zimica' (synonyms: 'Zimlji?a', 'Zimlja', 'Vrtlarica', 'Poljarica', 'Stambolka', 'Ozimica', 'Zelenka', 'Termenja?a kasna') is cultivated a lot along the whole Croatian coast, particularly in central and south Dalmatia. It is a typical one-crop plant, with small (width/length = 1.01) fruits, weighing around 35 g on average, with a green cuticle. The pulp of the fruit is pale yellowish, of intensive red color in the middle, very juicy, sweet and mildly acid of taste, with distinct aroma. Ripening begins in mid-August, lasting until the beginning of November, which does not make it suitable for drying. Its trees are vigorous, with large deep green leaves. The leaf-blade is palmate and regularly five-lobed, with very deep sinuses. ............................................................................................................................................... Zemnjica The variety 'Zemnjica' (synonyms: 'Zimkinja', 'Zimnica', 'Jesenska', 'Cigulica') is a typical one-crop variety, with an elongated fruit (width/length = 0.75) and a moderately short neck, medium-sized (20-35 g), and is regarded as one of the local varieties with the smallest fruit. The skin is light green, and is somewhat harder to detach from the pulp. The pulp under the skin is pale amber, and in the central part of pale honey color. Its trees are medium vigorous, with dense deep green leaves and palmate leaf-blades, usually five-lobed. This is a table variety, and is less often used for drying. ............................................................................................................................................... Šaraguja The variety 'Saraguja' (synonyms: 'Crnica', 'Crna', 'Crnjaka', 'Šipanka', 'Crnka', 'Crnja?a', 'Crnikula') is very widely cultivated in south Dalmatia, and is most abundant on the island of Kor?ula and in Konavle. This is a typical one-crop plant, which develops a medium-sized (30-50 g) fruit, rotund-oblate in shape (width/length = 1.16), of grey-red-purple color. The skin is harder to detach from the pulp, which is of white-amber color under the skin, and intensive red in the middle. The pulp is very juicy, sweet, with nutty acidulous taste. It ripens from mid-August to mid-October. Trees are medium-vigorous, and the leaf medium-sized, of dark green color, with a palmate, three-lobed leaf-blade. It is suitable to be consumed fresh and dried. ............................................................................................................................................... Bružetka The variety 'Bružetka' (synonyms: 'Bruzeta', 'Bunetarka') is widely cultivated on the island of Kor?ula and in Konavle, and is also present in the Dubrovnik littoral. This is a one-crop plant, which develops a medium-sized (30-55 g) fruit, oblate in shape (width/length = 1.00), with a very short neck and short stalk, which is very hard to detach at harvest. The skin of the fruit is dark purple, while the central part of the pulp is of intensive red color, quite juicy and of very nutty sweet-sour taste. It ripens in the second half of August. Trees are very vigorous and pretty prolific. Leaves are palmate, green, indented, and three-lobed. It is recommended as table variety, and for drying to a lesser extent. ............................................................................................................................................... Sušilica The variety 'Sušilica' (synonyms: 'Zamor?ica', 'Tenica', 'Novljanka', 'Primorka') is the most popular in bay of Boka Kotorska. Due to frost sensitive, it isn't spread in continental region. The shape of fruits are pyriform with clearly long neck and stalk (index width/length = 0.85). The average weight of fruits is 35 grams. F. Tabain believed that fruits with shorter neck have shorter stalk and conversely. The fruit skin is bright green mixed with yellowish halftone. The pulp is roseate, rarely light red, very sweet and of good quality. 'Susilica' have no Breba, and fruits ripens in the beginning of August. The tree is small or moderately vigorous and very productive. The fruits are used for drying and fresh consumption. ............................................................................................................................................... Rezavica This variety (synonyms: 'Duzica', 'Bjelica', 'Jesenka', 'Jesenja bjelica') is cultivated in whole subtropical region of Montenegro, but it is the main variety in Bar and Ulcinj municipality, and it is suitable for drying due to the high content of sugar. The fruits are oblong (index = 0.91), and with curve in neck. The stalk is short (2-4 mm), and average weight of fruit is 45 gram. The skin is greenish tinged with yellowish, and pulp is dark red, very sweet and of good taste. This is one cropping variety, and fruits are ripening in first decade of August, a week later than 'Susilica'. All fruits ripen in 20 days. The tree is moderately vigorous. ............................................................................................................................................... Zimnica The variety Zimnica is known as a 'Jesenka', spread in subtropical region of Montenegro, but is especially respectable in Crmnica region. This variety has a higher content of acid and aromatic taste due to its sugar: acid ratio. The fruits are round (index = 0.99) and completely green colored, with average weight of 38 grams. The stalk is 0.5 cm long, and pulp is intensive red colored. 'Zimnica' does not have a Breba and become a ripen in third decade of August. During a nice summer and autumn, it is possible to ripening to the November. The tree is very vigorous, and frits are used for fresh consumption and candying. ............................................................................................................................................... Crna patlidzanka Variety 'Crna patlidzanka' (synonyms: 'Lipovka', 'fig patlidyan', 'Carigradska patlidzanka') is one cropping variety, mainly cultivated in Bar region. The fruits are 45 grams in weight, with a purple black skin tinged with copper. The shape of fruits are oblong (index 0.79), and there are no stalk. It seems that fruits sitting on braches, and cause difficulties in harvest. The pulp is reddish and medial quality. 'Crna patlidzanka' ripens in half of August, and the tree is very vigorous. The fruits are used for fresh consumption. ............................................................................................................................................... Crna Sultanija Variety 'Crna Sultanija' (synonyms: 'Crna skadranka', 'Trojka', 'Carigradska smokva') is one of the most popular fig in Bar region. Breba is the main crop and ripens in the end of June, while second crop begin ripening in second decade of August. The Breba fruits are usually oblong, 70 grams in weight, with short and slender neck. The skin is dark violet tinged with purple. Second crop has a round shape of fruit, 25 grams in weight. The taste is very good, and this is one of the most beautiful variety grown in Montenegro. The fruits are not so suitable for transport. The tree is vigorous. ............................................................................................................................................... Trojka This variety (synonym 'Sedmakinja') cultivated in the coastal region and especially in periphery of capital town Podgorica where is very respectably due to its high productivity. It is seems that they have tree crops in year. Breba fruits are very oblong similar to a bottle, with slender neck. The fruits of second crop are smaller, and round. The skin is greenish-yellowish with less tone of purple. The skin sometimes cracks on surface. Pulp is intensive red with a large hollow, bigger than any other variety. Maturation on Breba is in the half of July, and second crop ripens in half of August. The tree is moderately vigorous. More Info HEREhttp://www.zrs-kp.si/projekti/rgfi/sl/figaOpisi.html
The development and utilization of DNA markers during the last twenty years gave rise to a revolutionary approach to study genome structures and genetic diversity of major agricultural plants . The new discoveries in molecular biology have also been applied to fruit cultivation, and nowadays the DNA markers are routinely used for molecular characterization and identification of varieties and clones, for studying genetic diversity, origin and relatedness. Microsatellites or SSRs (Short Sequence Repeats) combine features of various markers and are often regarded as the ultimate marker system. The most popular characteristics of microsatellites are: co-dominant inheritance, hypervariability, high information content and reproducibility of genotyping results among laboratories. For genotyping analysis recently published microsatellite loci were used (Bandelj et al., 2007). Genotyping data of some sampled fig varieties from Slovenia and Croatia at four microsatellite loci are presented in the following table. .............................................................................................................................................
Variety / Wild fig | Sampling location | FCUP008-2 | FCUP038-6 | FCUP068-1 | FCUP070-2 | Miljska figa Osp, SI 162, 184 189, 189 196, 196 183, 191 Zelenka Osp, SI 162, 180 189, 189 196, 196 191, 191 Črna Petrovka Dekani, SI 160, 180 172, 178 178, 206 183, 185 Bela Petrovka Dekani, SI 160, 180 172, 178 178, 206 183, 185 Petrovača bijela Split, HR 160, 180 172, 178 178, 206 183, 185 Bjelica 1 Peračko Blato, HR 178, 184 191, 191 196, 196 185, 191 Bjelica 2 Peračko Blato, HR 178, 184 191, 191 196, 196 185, 191 Wild fig Turija, HR 162, 178 189, 191 194, 206 183, 191 Wild fig Koper, SI 158, 180 189, 193 178, 196 185, 187 Wild fig Mljet, HR 162, 178 191, 191 194, 196 191, 191 Petrovača Metkovići, HR 160, 180 172, 178 178, 206 183, 185 Zamorčica Mljet, HR 178, 184 191, 191 196, 196 185, 191 Šaraguja Mljet, HR 160, 178 191, 191 196, 206 183, 187
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Nelson,
Fabulous - good research. It is very nice to see many of the identified figs from that part of the world. Thanks for sharing.
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Man, We definitely need a multi-lingual translation, or better still, some cheap/reliable DNA fig mapping results.
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Thanks Ingevald, Gorgi I posted some DNA info I dont really understand it to be honest with you maybe you will.
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Ooops, I guess I did not scroll-down enough before giving-up! Now that I see it, I do not understand it either; maybe it is a some-good-start (similar to how UCD is researching about the fig DNA) ...
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Could "Adriatic" fig be one of those listed above? Edit: Probably Zamor?ica is Adriatic fig (adriatica in California).
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Man, Petrovaca bijela looks GOOD! My friend that sits in the office next to me is Bosnian, so I started asking him about these. Of course, Croatian, Bosnian, Serbian are all the same languages. He says Petrovaca is just ... a type of fig. He said "bijela" means white, "bjelica" means light/"whitey", "crna" means black, "crnica" means dark/"blackey", "smokva" means fig. He said they don't say "red wine", they say "black wine" or this is how it translates. He also said "trojka" means "trio". Patlidzan = eggplant...patlidzanka = "looks like eggplant". I'm sure I can ask him more stuff if you want. Now that I have this, I'll need to have him bring back some of those Petrovaca Bijela cuttings next time he goes home! Thanks Nelson!
Oh, and for the other information at the bottom of the list with the regions the cuttings were sourced.... If it's not clear, SI = Slovenia. HR = Croatia (Hrvatska).
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gorgi
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Just remember that most figs here in the USA originated from heirlooms off the Mid-East/Mediterranean regions. Of course, some newer ones were bred here, thanks to UCD and LSU (the only 2 I can think of - less any good "wild" figs found in CA, where the fig-wasp exists).
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George, I sat down and talked to him at great length about the kinds of figs he liked. I thought I might share, since what you say is something he mentioned. I sent him to the source page of the images and descriptions above. He looked through them and was amazed by how accurate the descriptions were to his memory. He said his favorite fig to eat back home on this page is Zamorcica, which is listed at this source as "Adriatica (California)". So, it at least one of the figs there is probably tied to ones that we have imported and grown here. I asked him about Petrovaca Bijela just because I want him to bring me back cuttings. He said he knows a few people here in GA that have tried to grow it here and have not had any luck. It's not clear why.
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I was not trying to down anybody in particular. All I was saying was that I am overwhelmed with all the fig names, and that one (at least, speaking for myself) cannot possibly have all them figs existing in this world.
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I didn't take anything you said negatively! I was inspired by your words, which is why I went to talk to him and ask questions. This is when he said the same as you: "The figs in the USA are all heirlooms from my home in Bosnia!" I just realized that Ottawan came to the same conclusion that I had about Adriatica. Also very interesting!
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Akram from some of the forums I have been in while looking for origins of my yellow serbian fig. Some were claiming that the Adriatic was actually a Croatian fig or from that area Off the Dalmatian Coast.
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Several years ago I had a cutting of Petrouva or Petrouka, from Croatia. It rooted, but never thrived, and finally gave up. But I had one fig from it, and it was quite good. I met the fellow, this year, who had brought the cuttings, originally, and was looking forward to visting him and getting some more cuttings. But shortly after meeting him, he died. He was also the source for NSA No. 1 Green way back when. (New Stone Age Farms) I was never quite sure of the spelling, and looking at this list, it was close (but no cigar) to a couple names on the list.
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Petrovaca and Petrovka are the same fig. The main identifiers are crna (black) and bileja (white). If your second spelling is correct, then you probably had this fig. If it was dark it would be the Crna Petrovka/Crna Petrovaca. If it was light, it would be the Petrovaca Bileja/Petrovka Bileja.
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Ciao, Adriatic or Adriatico as we call in Italy I was forever educated and told originated in Central Italy along the Adriatic coast, actually in my home region, Abruzzo. This has always been what was said. I never heard of it originating in Croatia. Interesting thread however nelson. We never knew this many from Yugoslavia area (former). Actually never knew there was many at all except from the Serbian member we have here or at the other forum, who lives in CAnada, Radovan, I think is his/her name, who would mention his/her homecountry figs here and there. Ciao.
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Maggie both my serbian figs were obtained from radovan including the Bronze Paradiso. Also Petrovac is a town in serbia if im not mistaken. This are my two unknowns that were found in serbia. Yellow Serbian unknown Also I would like to add my yellow serbian has been hit with -10 celcius this year and still has not gone dormant whats up with that. Black Yugoslavian Im starting to have a feeling that the yellow serbian is some time of wild fig and the black yugoslavian possibly a brown turkey.
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Ciao Nelson, The leaf on your Yellow Serbian is very interesting. -10 Celcius and not dormant, very nice hardy fig. Ciao
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Nelson its been my experience with a few young fig plants being stubborn when hit with cold weather not goiing dormant right away such as this season with some first season ones. I just put them away with the adults which curled there leaves right away with the 2nd frost at 25 or so. The few that were stubborn kept there green leaves for a spell in garage but then succumbed and now they all are fast asleep.
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The rest is only a memory.
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Nelson, I am sure shape wise of the Yugo Black(Sumadija Dusan) don't look like a BT, a little too squatty like Brog. Bianco. Radovan spoke highly of this one and he was generous & gave me a nice tree. I hope to get figs from Yugo Black(S.Dusan), Yugo Yellow & Yugo Red this coming season. All were young plants & started to fruit in Aug and had no chance to ripe.
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Thanks Paully, Dusan does speak highly of both and they seem to produce really well for him in Brampton. So im sure with time it will be the same for me although the black Yugo is a very very slow grower 4 inches since july. Martin I agree this one was rooted in July this year so its definately a youngen and stubborn just like the owner lol I have it next to my Bronze Paradiso mother plant and SO Called Brown Turkey both lost their leaves late Nov. Heres a Pic of a Petrovaca Bijela
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Nelson you know you have to slow down because i dont have room for storage and sooner or later one of your postings might entice me. Glad that i have been very selective in past thats all i can say. Hmm have to look in garage might find room for 1 or 2 more plants. Naw better not !
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Martin I know how you feel. Its almost hard to believe there are so many different varities of Common figs through out the world how did this happen? Seedlings & Mutations ?
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Hello Nelson, I work regularly in Slovenia. Friends have sent me Bela Petrovka,Miljska figa,and Zelenka. Unfortunately Miljska did not survive the trip. Have you any idea who might have a replacement cutting? Thank you, bellentpz