ercan_bilgi
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Bursa siyahi is grown here everwhere and every garden but not for trade.So as you said %22 is not stayed in Bursa in Turkey.We also eat a lot and stay us enough amount of fig.Its size,shape,resistant for shipping is its main characteristics and this makes it number one.How can I add it to database I dont know.
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As I see from its leaves it grows well but sorry,hard to say it is bursa siyahi,it is necessary to see fruits to confirm.
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I search on the website of the Rolling river Nursery and the picture of Black Bursa is wrong.if you buy this plant considering to grow bursa siyahi,sorry to say that it is not.For further info contact with me.
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I wouldn't be worried. I looked at that site and they use the same photo for figs for which they don't have a photo. You'd think they'd put in a dark fig photo, but.... Post a photo of your fig, once it produces. You may have purchased the right fig. Never knew about that nursery until now. Happy they had Norman's yellow. It was nice to read what they said about it. I have two started in ground from cuttings sent me by a member last year. My late dad's name was Norman, so it will be a fave if it's anything like Rolling River Nursery's description. I seem to be a fan of yellow figs. Love Kadota, and Mary Lane Seedless (not seedless) has so much honey ooozing out, and is so rich and juicy, I would have an entire orchard of that one! Suzi Altadenama, if you'd like one of my rooted Norman's Yellow, just come over and dig it up. You would just take the 10 S and exit 79. I'm in the South Hills overlooking the town of Hemet. It's in ground. I root them all in ground. Fungus gnats no problem that way, but slugs! OMG... always something!
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Suzi, Thank you for your kind offer. Next time I'm out your direction, I may take you up on it. Right now everything is beginning to bloom, leaf out. I'm scrambling to get the winter fertilizer in the ground and finish the winter pruning before every thing turns to petals. I was very pleased with Rolling River Nursery. I ordered last week, and the trees arrived yesterday, well rooted in 4"x4"x10" pots. Almost as much of an "instant gratification" experience as eBay. They state on their website "No Image Available" for Bursa Siyahi, so the green fig picture is obviously a generic one. This is my favorite Bursa Siyahi picture. They look the size of apples (my apples -at least).
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That's a nice photo! I was thinking to order a Bursa also. We can compare the results of the trees that grow a few miles apart :) I know the wasp is common in Pasadena, I am sure you have them too.
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:( they are out of stock as of 2 min ago
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yes but I have enough stock:-)
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Is not it illegal to order from Turkey?
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Very much illegal. Won't get through customs. Suzi
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Or you will get visit from USDA? Is it true?
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yes it is illegal.
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I wouldn't chance it. I ordered some Pistachio seeds from Turkey on Ebay. Got the letter of confiscation by the United States Department of Agriculture. They didn't visit, but they always could. Be careful. Suzi
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Originally Posted by ercan_bilgi yes it is illegal.
Then you probably should indicate it on your listing, so buyers from USA will not be in trouble.
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just share info about figs in Turkey, bernard.
do not worry about that.
I want to help and introduce Turkish figs to people from different countries
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1. Illegal
2. The nursery sells a nice rooted tree. Is it better to wait when they have them in stock again since the gain is about 1 year and a peace of mind.
3. The price of shipping cuttings from Turkey is about the same as buying a rooted fig in the US
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Originally Posted by ercan_bilgi yes but I have enough stock:-)
Sorry. I misunderstood your statement.
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these are our wonderful wasps and caprifig
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Too bad anybody from USA allowed to buy from Turkey- it is illegal and USDA will visit your garden and probably confiscate all your fig trees.
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Yes you are right.
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You should indicate it on you eBay listing, so your clients from USA will know and will not have a problem. It will be only fear. And it was been mention before.
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AltadenaMara My Bursa Siyahi (Black Bursa) tree arrived yesterday from Rolling River Nursery, an impulse buy after buying their Hollier. They describe it as: ” Considered by many connoisseurs to be the best fig of all, it is exported in great quantities from its native region of Bursa, Turkey to Europe where it dominates the fresh eating market. Large size, black skin and dark red flesh that is firm, yet has a high juice content, with an extraordinary and sweet flavor.”
We have the wasp and the long ripening season here in Altadena like in Turkey. Is anyone else here growing it? What does it taste like: sugar, honey, fruity?
Mara zone 9b SoCal
Want: Zidi, Black Madeira, Italian 258,
I planted mine last year and am hoping for it to fruit this year. I have several caprifigs nearby and will take steps to make sure any fruit are caprified.
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Harvey, where did you find your caprifigs? From some of your earlier posts here, you were looking for them last year. Rolling River sent me this monster size Marabout with branches than should produce a fig or two this year, unlike their Bursa Siyahi, which is just a small whip by comparison. But it will need pollination from a caprifig. There are probably some wild figs growing in the arroyo around a mile away, but apparently its better if the branches of the caprifig and Smyrna type fig are entwined. I have a “volunteer” fig tree that is growing on the other side of the yard from my original mother fig, but couldn't tell you if it’s sourced from the mother plant’s root or seed.
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AltadenaMara
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This article warns against overpollinating Calimyrna figs: http://waynesword.palomar.edu/pljun99a.htm
Is it possible my original fig tree is a caprifig? I never liked the taste of them. Today I found on it what was left of an old fig from last year, perhaps a mamme? The mockingbirds aren’t going to let any fruit sit around on trees here for long.
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Mara, I've had caprifigs for a couple of years but have continued to collect more with the idea that I might one day want to try my hand at fig breeding even though I can hardly handle what I have going already. It is pretty easy to spot caprifigs around here in the winter with fruits while trees have no leaves. If your "original" tree produced fruit, I'd say it is most likely a caprifig (some caprifig are not dry, however). Half of seedlings are caprifigs so if it was a volunteer tree than I'd say it probably is, though in your climate I imagine some trees might over-winter some immature fruit which don't ripen very well the following year. When the fruit are developed further, cut some open and look for wasp galls (eggs in seeds). Probably best to start another thread for that.
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Hi Ercan,
Need your suggestion which common variety with self polination that taste sweet. I really interested to buy the cutting in bulk if the price ok.
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ok valquisser
pls look at your pm.
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hi altadenema I think you also grow symnra types ,and have caprifigs ,let me ask :which type of caprifig you use for polination? 1-early season caprifig 2-mid season caprifig 3-late season caprifig thanks
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Hi Ercan, This is all new to me. You might do a search on this forum for some threads about "caprifigs" and "caprification". Several members have been working with this for a while and could possibly answer your questions. I have had wild figs sprout like weeds and grow around my yard from my fig tree, so some fertilization is going on. I’m starting a number of caprifig cuttings and hope to learn more about this. Here are some suggestions: Best caprifigs for seed production and best for good tasting fruit? How to identify a persistent caprifig? Is this a guy or a gal? A neighbor of mine is in Turkey on a tour now visiting all the tourist spots. I told her to look out for figs, but this probably isn't the best season for them. She said she loves figs.
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Thank you for your suggestion.If your neighbour want to visit my nursery I can help .
Thanks
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Ercan, w ould you tell us more about the fig variety Patlican? It’s supposed to be named after an eggplant because of its shape. On eBay, there are sales of Green, Purple, Black, and White Patlicans. One of our members here has found a tree that seems to be a Patlican growing in Pasadena: “Raspberry El Molino Unk. fig (PIX) == Patlican” How are they different in the way they taste? Their size? It sounds like an interesting and flavor filled variety.
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Sure ,I can give information about Patlican fig .Patlıcan fig widely grown in our Black Sea region of Turkey.Its name is come from its color and shape eggplant= Patlican in Turkish.
Our Black sea region is so rainy all season so this variety of this fig is resistable so much rainy weathers.Its fruit is medium size ,weighing about 60-80 grams.Its color is purple and normally harvested in August
Patlıcan fig is only one type of cultivar and called Karadeniz Patlican fig.There are no purple,yellow ,or another variety of patlican and I collect this info from Fig Research Center in Turkey.There is an information mass of patlican fig varieties because of local names .
To sum up ,there is only one patlican fig not any other type.
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These are the patlican fig photos.
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Originally Posted by ercan_bilgi These are the patlican fig photos.
Which photos you were referring to?
Or you just forgot to attach them ?
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I attached the photos
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Thanks for the pictures. The figs look really delicious.
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yes karadeniz patlican fig is so tasty and delicious
Also self polinating variety and no need wasp.
thanks
ercan
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Thanks for posting! They look like the El Molino figs
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can you attached a photo of el molino fig,if possible?
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Please see the link in the post 85 above
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yes but patlican's shape is like pear.your attached figs shape is oval and also its inside color is different than mine.
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What is the color inside? Do you have a leaf photo also?
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Ercan, May I ask why you’re growing your figs in pots and not in the ground? They look healthy and productive, so they’re obviously getting excellent care.
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I normally grow in the ground not in pot but I received this photo from my friend in order to show you the leaves of patlican fig and fruits.
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Are the extreme “egg plant” looking figs on these Black Patlicans brebas or are they variations on the same main crop? Several other figs have breba figs that are similar in shape and have more rounded main crops.
http://www.aliexpress.com/store/product/Ficus-carica-BLACK-PATLICAN-FIG-EGGPLANT-BLACK-FIG-Seeds-Edible-Fruit-Tree-Plant-seeds-100-FINEST/1182524_1729678302.html
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I don't think its Patlican fig ,it seems like Kavak fig we called.As I said the original Patlican is this.Patlican fig cannot be categorized as black ,yellow or other ,I said again and again.its original color is purple like eggplant .
Information is given from Fig research center .(not in my mind)
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Originally Posted by ercan_bilgi I don't think its Patlican fig ,it seems like Kavak fig we called.As I said the original Patlican is this.Patlican fig cannot be categorized as black ,yellow or other ,I said again and again.its original color is purple like eggplant . Information is given from Fig research center .(not in my mind)
Thanks for the information. This is getting more interesting. According to these sources, the Kavak fig is purple also. Does the Fig Research Center have a website with some pictures? Where could I find more information about both the Kavak fig and the Patlican fig. The one you say is the Kavak looks more like the eggplants here than the Patlican. "Fig İncir Also known as yemiş . Turkey’s most famous and flavorful fig is the Izmir (Smyrna) variety. There are many other varieties as well, including the sugar fig, purple fig, Sultan Selim fig, yediveren (“seven-bearer”), kavak (cottonwood), patlıcan (eggplant). The Sultan Selim and kavak varieties are cultivated in Istanbul and its surroundings; they are sweet with a purple skin." http://www.turkish-cuisine.org/english/pages.php?ParentID=6&FirstLevel=95
" 10.10.14 -The purple skin of the Kavak fig is so thin that the fruit can be eaten whole, without peeling — and so fragile that it cannot be transported long distances. One of the few places this Istanbul delicacy is grown is a small market garden (known as a bostan in Turkish) in Rümeli Kavağı, a windswept waterfront settlement near where the Bosphorus Strait opens into the Black Sea." http://zesterdaily.com/world/market-gardens-istanbul/
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http://arastirma.tarim.gov.tr/incir
The link of our fig research center ,but you can translate it into English to click on Eng button above.
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