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Any one heard of this fig? Its a large green fig with red interior with sweet tart flavor?Its from the island of Cyprus.My Greek friend said she heard her father pronounce it both ways but it is the same fig.She is starting me some cuttings from her tree.The name of the fig is Vardika,Vartika.
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I wonder if it is Cypriot Vazanata Fig ?


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She said it is oblong and is a late fig? I will grow it and post pictures.Maybe i could get you some cuttings so you could test it in Texas?
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I wonder if it is Cypriot Vazanata Fig ?


Vazanata is what Cypriots call a large dark purple skin fig, which its the same fig as Melenzana in italy and greece.
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A Cypriot Vazanata fig in the owner's hand. 
Pictures below belong to a friend of mine (V. N.) in UK .
It is definitely not a Melanzana nor a Longue d'Aout 
 

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Have you tasted one yet Mai, and if so what do you think?  Productive looking!
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Hi Grant Mai is right on this fig I have some of these coming this fall  I would like to get a few cuttings of the ones you have and will share some of the ones i have now and when I get the  Cypriot Vazanata in this fall will forward those to you, it would be interesting if they are the same type of fig and how they perform here in Louisiana  please P M me thanks
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hello far away friends of this lovely fig community. have received precious knowledge amongst u guys... so i salute u all..greetings from the island of cyprus. u must be refering to vartika/vardika/valtika figs. slight differences in name may occur in different locations/cities...and imagine we r only a drop in the ocean...


vardika may perhaps be a relative of the bardacik fig... if not the same...

so yes vardika is one of the best cypriot figs. figs split if u water the tree in summer.has one long crop from mid july till mid nov.it is green with red interior and with extra refined sweetness... sun makes miracles here...late in august they become sweeter than honey...literally.. diabetics stay away... i ll try to attach few pics tomorrow but have to resize cause my mob pics seem to be larger than 1mb... till then, my regards..andreas
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Hi Grant Mai is right on this fig I have some of these coming this fall  I would like to get a few cuttings of the ones you have and will share some of the ones i have now and when I get the  Cypriot Vazanata in this fall will forward those to you, it would be interesting if they are the same type of fig and how they perform here in Louisiana  please P M me thanks
I do not think they are the same fig.She said her Vartouga fig is a very large green fig with an oblong shape,red interior with sweet,tart flavor.She has two other fig trees from Cyprus that she does not know the names. 

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hello far away friends of this lovely fig community. have received precious knowledge amongst u guys... so i salute u all..greetings from the island of cyprus. u must be refering to vartika/vardika/valtika figs. slight differences in name may occur in different locations/cities...and imagine we r only a drop in the ocean... vardika may perhaps be a relative of the bardacik fig... if not the same... so yes vardika is one of the best cypriot figs. figs split if u water the tree in summer.has one long crop from mid july till mid nov.it is green with red interior and with extra refined sweetness... sun makes miracles here...late in august they become sweeter than honey...literally.. diabetics stay away... i ll try to attach few pics tomorrow but have to resize cause my mob pics seem to be larger than 1mb... till then, my regards..andreas
Andreas, thank you for clearing that up! Her father passed away and that's the spelling she gave me.She came over in 1974 and her father brought cuttings.She has 2 figs she does not remember the names of.Maybe this sumer i can take picture of leaf and fruit and you could identify them.She also has a  strawberry fig from Cyprus and it grows very well here with delicious figs.
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Vasanati- is a green fig with purple ribs or bronze fig, I'll find out this coming summer for sure. There is one growing in LAFF.
Vardika- (check my profile picture for this variety)
Smyrneika- (maybe, but name suggests its from Smyrni, today's Izmir region )
These figs are believed to be indigenous to island of Cyprus.

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few pics as promised.. now everyone loves pictures aint that right:)

u r welcome Grant..

 so a small comentary.

 donno if the root of the word vardika/valtika comes from greek... but 'valtos' (tone on 'a') is the swamp

 and 'vardos' (again tone on 'a'), is an old word for 'singer'.. u know medieval times...

of course it can purely drive form bardacik figs... but hey.. who knows..

 the important thing is to taste good:)

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Hello to Everyone,

The following photo are all the best varieties from Cyprus and of course the delicious Vardika.  Enjoy the photo.  Untitled-1.gif 


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Ektor, Oh my gosh!  Beautiful--all of them.  if I HAD TO PICK ONE...I would choose Perdikosika because the inside color is just beautiful.  Nice photos.  Thanks for posting them.
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AndreasC: Thanks for clarification about the Vardika fig! And hello to you too, friend of the faraway place, the island of Cyprus.

The pictures are great too!!

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The following photo are all the best varieties from Cyprus and of course the delicious Vardika.  Enjoy the photo.  Untitled-1.gif 


Thanks for posting those nice figs, some of those varieties are very familiar to me as I left Cyprus 32 years ago, I will be visiting there this October at the end of fig season if I can get my hands on some cuttings I will try and send them through the post.
 I also was there in May 2015 at the very start of fig season and my bother in law had the variety but could not remember the name of it that I liked very much even for a breba fig.
This tree is highly productive and has a long season and produces 3 crops, if anyone has any idea what it could be feel free to post it.

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The following photo are all the best varieties from Cyprus and of course the delicious Vardika.  Enjoy the photo.  Untitled-1.gif 


Thanks for posting those nice figs, some of those varieties are very familiar to me as I left Cyprus 32 years ago, I will be visiting there this October at the end of fig season if I can get my hands on some cuttings I will try and send them through the post.
 I also was there in May 2015 at the very start of fig season and my bother in law had the variety but could not remember the name of it that I liked very much even for a breba fig.
This tree is highly productive and has a long season and produces 3 crops, if anyone has any idea what it could be feel free to post it.

Your Very Welcome,  and yes Cyprus has many delicious figs that I have tasted. 

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The following photo are all the best varieties from Cyprus and of course the delicious Vardika.  Enjoy the photo.  Untitled-1.gif 


Thanks for posting those nice figs, some of those varieties are very familiar to me as I left Cyprus 32 years ago, I will be visiting there this October at the end of fig season if I can get my hands on some cuttings I will try and send them through the post.
 I also was there in May 2015 at the very start of fig season and my bother in law had the variety but could not remember the name of it that I liked very much even for a breba fig.
This tree is highly productive and has a long season and produces 3 crops, if anyone has any idea what it could be feel free to post it.

Is it a Cypriot fig that gives 3x a yr?



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Is it a Cypriot fig that gives 3x a yr?




Not all of them but this one I posted has Breba, main and a late crop as you can see by the photo different size figs a different stages this photo shows main crop and late crop.
May be because of the long hot humid summers figs go longer season.

 

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hello all.. perhaps this post ought to be renamed by Grant or the Administrators as:  'FIGS OF CYPRUS' then... if Grant is ok with that...as a tribute to cyprus figs:)

Ektor/Giorgo, excellent pictures ... i have obtained cuttings of the first four cultivars of ur photo, as well as 'aspra prodromou' and was wondering how their crop looks like... are these pictures taken by u... in a different case may i ask ur source?

i may have access to cuttings from all the varieties u posted by the way..do u have any size/taste indication ? i.e. which of the ones u posted is the best in ur opinion. excluding vazanata and vardika....

Figalot: sorry cant identify ur fig (looks like kiladonika perhaps?), but what i know is that in cyprus other varieties are also systematically (some also in plantations) produced, such as, kadota (has brebas), gentile bianco (has brebas), brogiotto blanko (has brebas), san pietro(has brebas and second crop needs pollination), napolitana negra,the smyrneika figs (smyrna type- needs pollination), a variety called tillirisima, a variety called delounika, etc...

perhaps ektor/george may have some pics of these varieties...


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here's another green/pink cy fig.. it was introduced to me as being the elusive 'smyrneika' fig.. but i doubt it, cause no caprifigs were established near the tree and dont know if the  wasp could find its way to this tree.. perhaps it is vasilika melissi that dont need caprification?

ektor/giorgo would u know any better ?:)

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Ektor you grow these varieties?
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hello all.. perhaps this post ought to be renamed by Grant or the Administrators as:  'FIGS OF CYPRUS' then... if Grant is ok with that...as a tribute to cyprus figs:)

Ektor/Giorgo, excellent pictures ... i have obtained cuttings of the first four cultivars of ur photo, as well as 'aspra prodromou' and was wondering how their crop looks like... are these pictures taken by u... in a different case may i ask ur source?

i may have access to cuttings from all the varieties u posted by the way..do u have any size/taste indication ? i.e. which of the ones u posted is the best in ur opinion. excluding vazanata and vardika....

Figalot: sorry cant identify ur fig (looks like kiladonika perhaps?), but what i know is that in cyprus other varieties are also systematically (some also in plantations) produced, such as, kadota (has brebas), gentile bianco (has brebas), brogiotto blanko (has brebas), san pietro(has brebas and second crop needs pollination), napolitana negra,the smyrneika figs (smyrna type- needs pollination), a variety called tillirisima, a variety called delounika, etc...

perhaps ektor/george may have some pics of these varieties...


Andreas,
I have changed the topic of this thread per your request.Thanks for all of the post!My friend from Cyprus that is giving me some Vardika fig trees also has a tree she calls eggplant?What do you know about this fig?

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Hi Grant,

 thx for the change of topic...was hoping u would not get offended.. us messing around ur post:)

well, the eggplant vegetable,  is translated as 'vazAni' βαζάνι in cy (and 'melintzAna' μελιντζάνα in greek btw), melanzana rings a bell  btw? so the fig 'vazanato' singular, vazanata in plural, is named as such due to its colour which is similar to an eggplant. the shape is round though...

i have attached a pic in my earliest post with one vardiko and one vazanato next to each other, also with their cross-section...

 and i also attach here two screenshots from a report (on cultivation of figs) of the agricultural ministry of cyprus ...

if u read greek u can see also the text... fig matures from mid august till end october... could go further to mid nov if u ask me...its caramel/pink/reddish inside.. but fig has several variations here in the island, and generally people tend to name all big black figs as vazanata.. if u dont do gene's analysis u can never be certain of what u have at hand...


btw i prefer vardika, vazanata tend to be kinda watery.. 

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Ektor you grow these varieties?


Yes I grow these varieties and the photo's are from my trees.


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These are some beautiful looking figs!

I am going to take this opportunity to post my fig that originated from Cyprus in case someone has some further information on it.  It is a late ripener but was large and very sweet and rich flavour.
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here in the island, and generally people tend to name all big black figs as vazanata..


Agree, When I was there in 2015 every where I went and asked people if they new what variety they had if it was large black or purple fig they will call it Vazanata. 
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hi pino...

well, the late ripeners are the vazanata, thats y they also called himoniatika-χειμωνιάτικα i.e. of winter...

but their flesh are more of an amber/caramel/slightly pinkish colour...

urs is more towards red... which reminds me napolitana negra especially since i know it is indeed cultivated/found in cy and it is one of the few real dark figs here in cy...it ripens mid july start august but can go till october.... it is much sweeter than vazanata and smaller... so odds tilt towards this...

if that aint it,, well, i guess it is one of those cyprus blacks:) or cypress black as u say:)

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Vartika  is one of the varieties we have here in Cyprus island and they are figs with huge size really delicious.The best variety is called smyrneika and one of the rarest is royal black
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Vartika  is one of the varieties we have here in Cyprus island and they are figs with huge size really delicious.The best variety is called smyrneika and one of the rarest is royal black
Hey Tomy,

I have a friend from Cyprus.Her father brought a bunch of cuttings when they moved here in 1974.She has Vartika,Strawberry(that's what she calls it) and eggplant fig,she also has 2 unknown figs from Cyprus that are black figs.Her father has passed away so she can not find out the names.If i post pictures of the leaves and fruit inside and out do you think you could help me identify the 2 dark figs?Welcome to the forum.

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Grant, I know u dont have pictures of your friends tree with leaves or fruit onbit but in spring we will be able see what it looks like. The name is a great start for now!! Looking forward to this fruit!
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RE: Eggplant

Maybe she is referring to Patlican? 



Andreas,
I have changed the topic of this thread per your request.Thanks for all of the post!My friend from Cyprus that is giving me some Vardika fig trees also has a tree she calls eggplant?What do you know about this fig?

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Grant: is this ebay post of a Vardika-Capriot the same fig?

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It appears to be the same.I will have a better idea this summer if mine fruits.The description my friend gave me was a large elongated green fig with red interior with a very sweet tart taste.It is also a late fig.
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Cyprus figs look fantastic.  Maybe I can get cuttings this year.  Thanks for sharing those beautiful pictures.
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Pictures of strawberry Cyprus mother tree. IMG_0243.jpg  IMG_0242.jpg  IMG_0241.jpg 

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Just wanted to thank the authors for the great contributions here on Cypriot figs/figs from Cyprus,there isn't much other information available online in English regarding these fig varieties so this is a great resource. I love Cyprus and figs but never seem to be there at the right time of year to actually eat some but always conscious that fig trees seem to be everywhere on the island(I made a recent trip to Pomos a lot longer because I just kept driving along to see more fig trees,they didn't stop so eventually had to turn back and head back across the Island towards where we were staying near Paphos for the sake of my wife and kids-otherwise I would have just kept following the fig trees!).I Would love to add a few Cypriot varieties as I grow my fig collection so again,thank you
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Grant, my Cypress cutting is growing well.  No figs yet but looking forward to your figs.
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well perhaps unknown to many from the US, considering also the distance, but Cyprus is a  lost figgin paradise...albeit not carrying an exotic name such as 'madeira', it is a place with similar climate, perhaps even better for figs... its almost the same distance from equator (i.e. loootttss of sun), but without the ocean micro-climate, thus dryer. the level of fructose/syrup accumulating in ripe figs, especially the ones not being watered, cannot be easily described


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well perhaps unknown to many from the US, considering also the distance, but Cyprus is a  lost figgin paradise...albeit not carrying an exotic name such as 'madeira', it is a place with similar climate, perhaps even better for figs... its almost the same distance from equator (i.e. loootttss of sun), but without the ocean micro-climate, thus dryer. the level of fructose/syrup accumulating in ripe figs, especially the ones not being watered, cannot be easily described


I wish I could eat a ripe fig from Cyprus! My friend says the fig trees there are so big you can climb in them and the olive trees are as big as oaks. She just gave me a pomegranate tree that she propagated from her pomegranate tree from Cyprus.Enjoy all those Cypriot figs!

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These are some beautiful looking figs!

I am going to take this opportunity to post my fig that originated from Cyprus in case someone has some further information on it.  It is a late ripener but was large and very sweet and rich flavour.
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Cypress historically has been a crossroads of civilizations. 
Given the love of figs in those times travellers would have brought or given for exchange their best figs.

My Cypress black fig was very nice but it ripens late and is a slow grower.

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Hey Grant.

Were you able to get pics of the ripe fruit this past summer?

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Giorgos,

Thanks for the photos of the best varieties from Cyprus.  I am trying to document the best varieties from each country and this sure helps me in regards to Cyprus.

Tad 

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