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French amateur looking for real "Italian 258" cuttings.

Hi tradesite, pitangadiego, HarveyC, ADelmanto and Porfirio,

Thank you for your feedback and feedback. It changes private messages filled with insults that I received. I will not say the name of the member concerned because I do not want to get into his childish game.

It is true that my claim was a mistake, but I assure you that this one is sincere.

Before coming on the foum I learned a lot about the varieties available. Unfortunately, many testimonies from people living in my region have said that they do not have regular fruiting with varieties such as "Pastilière", "Ronde de Bordeaux" or "Dalmatie", which are nevertheless considered to be tolerant to cold.

I have just seen that a variety called "Perretta", which was developed in Switzerland, was created to withstand very difficult conditions while fruiting.

Has anyone had experience with this variety? Are the fruits ons and sweet?

Thank you in advance for your feedback.

Bonjour Zielin,

There is quite a bit of information on "Parretta" or "Paretta" on this forum; here is the link for my Paretta search on this F4F forum. Even a short video.

https://figs4funforum.websitetoolbox.com/search?keywords=Peretta&searchin=message&member=&do=findposts&replies=atleast&numreplies=0&daterange=0&custdatefrom=&custdateto=&sort=&order=desc&radio_showas=threads&btnSearch=Search&action=doSearch

Bonne chance/Good luck in your search for this or other varieties.
Marcel

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I usually don't intrude in the affairs of other people, but i'd like to put my 2 cents in this thread.

Ok, maybe it's not very good to present yourself asking for free stuff, perhaps it would have been better to ask "how to get ...", but I am amazed with so much hostility, we all make mistakes, nobody is perfect.

You have spent a lot of money (and time) for a certain variety?
This gives no value to that variety, the value of a plant does not match its price.

The availability of a variety ruins your business? Invest in something else.

I built my collection mostly with trades, i received what i asked, and i gave what i was asked.
My varieties were much or less rare or good compared to others? Who knows, but, above all, who cares?

I was told: "This variety is too rare to be traded", so you just assume that what i offer have less value than what you offer?
On what are these statements based on?

Growing plants is expensive, but
don't always think about money, please.
Enjoy your figs, don't be moneygrabbers, and if you don't want to give cuttings, make trades or sell at a price you think too low, simply ignore those who try to get easily those varieties.

I'm not wealty (let's say i'm pretty poor) and i think anyone should have the chance to follow their dreams.

Don't let people think fig collectors are crazy.

Hi LaFigue,

Thank you for taking your time to offer me this search link, there are some very interesting things.

Hi Fico,

It is true that nothing is worth the experience of doing and living. This is how we discover incredible things, including preferences for a particular variety on the sole basis of our feelings.

To answer your question I invested a little time in my research, notably on the botanical and physiological aspect of the fig trees, which is a very interesting tree!

On the other hand I would not put huge financial sums for a fig tree for the simple reason that I do not have the financial means and the sufficient skills in cuttings.

For me it's a passion not an obsession, which prompted me to make my request on the forum is not greed but curiosity, a little awkward it is true. I have room to have a single variety, which is why I would like to make the best choice.

But that's enough to say no and I understand. Since the time I posted on this forum and on ourfigs I have made good progress;).

In truth all the varieties of fig trees are interesting, it is up to us to choose among them according to our needs and situations.

I'm with you, Zielin.

I have had many trades in France, and i suggest to check La bourse aux greffons, where you can find many french people who can help you.

If i can't afford a variety it's not a big problem for me, i grow many other fruits and at this moment i think i reached the maximum for figs.
I don't have a Black Madeira? No problem!

Thanks Fico for your advice, I appreciate your philosophy.

You are right, La bourse aux greffons seems to be a place of passionate people.

Oh yes, my objective would be to have several varieties of fruit trees, I think especially fig tree, plum, peach, persimmon and grape at first.

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Originally Posted by fygmalion
Greetings, "Zielin", Florianus Martinus or whatever your real and proper name is. Welcome to the forum. Its nice to see that you are thorough in your search for freebie's of "one or two real "Italian 258", "Figo Preto" or "Genoverse Nero AF" cuttings" having now posted essentially the same ask on FFF, Ourfigs and the European Figs interest group on FB. Having the temerity to make your first posts on these pages all about asking for people to generously hand over valuable cuttings of these varieties to you, I don't know why you have decided to short change your ask (you after all self described yourself as "Greedy").... I would suggest that you raise the stakes and request  "LUV", Bordisott Negra Rimada, Oro and a few other interesting varieties as well. It only seems logical to me that if someone is going to ship you free cuttings of these varieties and you pay for shipping, the least you might do is maximize the return on your investment. Best of luck in your acquisition search and I look forward to reading many of your future posts sharing details of your growing successes with these varieties...


At least some of us can approach this with a sense of humor.

Honestly, Zelin, you will have better success if you look for hardy chicago / MBVS. Those would fit your needs and keep your belly full of figs. I personally would look for a reasonably priced mount Etna type fig in Europe.

Have you scouted out your town, city, or province for tasty figs yet? How much land do you have to cultivate?

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Originally Posted by zielin
Hi LaFigue,

Thank you for taking your time to offer me this search link, there are some very interesting things.

Hi Fico,

It is true that nothing is worth the experience of doing and living. This is how we discover incredible things, including preferences for a particular variety on the sole basis of our feelings.

To answer your question I invested a little time in my research, notably on the botanical and physiological aspect of the fig trees, which is a very interesting tree!

On the other hand I would not put huge financial sums for a fig tree for the simple reason that I do not have the financial means and the sufficient skills in cuttings.

For me it's a passion not an obsession, which prompted me to make my request on the forum is not greed but curiosity, a little awkward it is true. I have room to have a single variety, which is why I would like to make the best choice.

But that's enough to say no and I understand. Since the time I posted on this forum and on ourfigs I have made good progress;).

In truth all the varieties of fig trees are interesting, it is up to us to choose among them according to our needs and situations.


While my take on this is slightly different, I agree there is no need for outright insults.

People who ask for "chairity" can be ignored if you do not wish, or are not able to give. If you feel the request was "cheeky" then at least a good natured rebuke like fygmalion did will lighten the mood and get the point accross.

Hi Lewi,

Of course when things are said with civility or with a respectful humor it makes things progress. Disrespect essentially comes from a meager minority.

To answer your question I cultivate a plot of 100m ² about.

I know well the fig trees of my sector, they are almost essentially "Brown Turkey", because of their tolerance to the cold I suppose.

They are relatively good and productivity is good, but I am very far from recovering the taste of figs that I could taste in Portugal for example (hhmm this honey!).

I know that sunshine and heat play a big part in this outcome, but I think choosing an appropriate variety seems relevant to me.

You are right, Hardy Chicago and Mount Etna are good candidates;).

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