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Thanks Nelson, I will ask the owner about what you said. This tree is very strong and vigorous grower. Thank you. 

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Tam

All literature says Pingo de Mel is Kadota. I never heard of 'gota' de mel, but those Portuguese from the old land know best.  If your friend wants to call it Gota, so, be it.  It is amazing and those photos are terrific.  I wish I could taste one.

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Thanks Grasa, it is good to know.

Does anyone have a mature Kadota? Please let me know if this Gota de Mel tree looks like a Kadota. I have one young tree in one gallon container. Thank you.

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Tam

those are nice!!!!!

Hi Tam,

Many Europeans seem to think that Gota de Mel and Kadota/Dottato are the same thing. See http://www.galgoni.com/CAT/Fotos_Maxi/057.htm Some Europeans think they are synonymous with Col de Dame Blanche. I have a Kadota and a Goccia D'Oro (syn. with Dottato). They are both honey figs. So too are store-bought Kadotas. Usually they are pink pulp, but not deep red. Now while Gota de Mel or Miel means honey, I would not call the above pictures you posted a honey fig. Those deep red figs resemble Col de Dame Blanche. Not Kadota if you ask me.

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Rafael

Maybe you can google translate this page:

http://www.infojardin.com/foro/showthread.php?p=7045915

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rafaelissimmo: Thank you very much for your information and the links. What you said is true. This Gota de Mel looks more related to Col De Dame's fig family if the tree is pruned every year, but is also related to Madeira's fig family if the tree is left unpruned for 3 years. 

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Tam

Hi Tam! I dunno about the leaves, but I agree the fruit is not Kadota-esque, especially on the interior. Whatever it is, it looks great!

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persianmd2orchad: Thank you for comments. 

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Hi! Everyone,

Does anyone have Green Ischia? Please let me know if the leaves and figs are the same as this Gota de Mel. Thank you. 

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Tam

Hi Tam

That is not a Green Ischia, I will post a pic of leaves for you later. The Gota de Miel is one of the holy trinity of figs grown in Extremadura, Spain, the province of Caceres is the world's epicenter of Cuello de Dama commercial production, also heavily cultivated there are the Gota de Miel and the Calabacita fig, which is the finest dried fig I have tasted. They are just across the border from Portugal, where it is called Gota de Mel. I hope to go there soon! They seem to specilaize in exactly the figs you write about here!

Rafael

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Rafael: Thank you very much for the information.

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Tam

Hi Tam

Here is a nice Green Ischia leaf I just snapped off for you, the color has started to turn just a little bit as we have turned the corner to autumn. No fruit to show you, sorry. Hope this helps!

Rafael

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Hi! Everyone, 

Does anyone have Battaglia Green? Please let me know if the leaves and figs are the same as this Gota de Mel. Thank you.

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Tam 

Thanks for your great presentation of an unknown fig!  Looks delicious!
Suzi

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Finally nice fruit!

Great pics Tam.
Where is this growing? It's a nice size!

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Thanks everyone for watching.

The trees are in the ground in Southern Maryland, zone 7a. 

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Tam

Tam,
This tree has similar leaves and figs to the cultivar named Adriatic JH. Adriatic JH produces similar shaped multi-lobed, single leaves and figs. The attached link is to a discussion of the Adriatic JH with several pictures of the mother tree. The Adriatic JH also seems to produce multi lobed leaves on newer wood with reduced lobes on older wood, and the figs look similar.

This is one picture from that Topic by Joe H. the owner of the mother tree, more pictures were posted to the Topic. Good Luck.
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Pete: Thank you for your information about Adriatic JH. I have one Adriatic JH, but the leaf shapes are not the same. Does anyone have Battaglia Green? Please let me know if the leaves and figs are the same as this Gota de Mel. Thank you.

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Tam 

Tam, I'll post some images of my Battaglia Green this evening but in the meantime I found a few pics of the leaves here:

http://figs4fun.com/Thumbnail_Battaglia_Green.html

The BG leaves shown in those images does seem to resemble some (but not the CddD-like) leaves you show above in this thread.  With the two different leaf types it is going to be difficult to be really confident about an ID.

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Thanks Steve for the link.

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Tam

Your fig,has fruits that have the shape of Madeira Black,and Preto,and much different compared to Col de Dame .
Fruits on Col de Dame are more elongated,and more turbinate compared to the fruits on your tree.
The Madeira black/ Preto is a much better similarity. Of course it is white but it must be there are white fruiting specimens of this cultivar too.
The leaves are variable,a little like Col de Dame ,a little like Madeira,i am not going to guess,looking at leaves.
The fruits are onion like and that is similar to Madeira,Preto figs. 

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Herman2: Thanks for your comments. Please let me know if this one is either JH Adriatic or Battaglia Green? Thank you Herman2.

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Tam

Tam, here are images of my young Battaglia Green.  The leaves look a bit different from the BG leaves shown on the figs4fun variety page.  Interestingly, many of the leaves on my plant have 5 lobes plus two "thumbs" that is similar to many of the leaves you show in this thread.  I haven't yet had fruit off of mine but am pretty confident of my source who obtained his from Paradise Nursery when it was still in business.

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