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I agree with you, Mario.... THAT is cause for a happy dance!

Tony, I see you're not to far from me if you're ever this way feel free to stop by I see you're a new member I'll send you home with some plants and if you bring your gun with some venison , just joking about venison, I'm surrounded by neighbors.

@Mario_1 : Thank you for the invite, that is very generous of you! I will surely let you know and perhaps we can meet.... With regards to venison... I have plenty that I and my son harvest and with the season now approaching, expect to harvest more. Happy to share with you and other members close at hand. I also still have some very delicious bear from last year if you are interested.... First time I harvested a bear (unplanned but he wanted to share my hunting blind with me) and I was amazed at how good the steaks were.

Regards,
Tony

wow! very nice! :)

Peter, I see you grow persimmons , do they survive zone 6a onprotected If they do I would be interested, I have some nice fig varieties,many from Italy

Nice fig plate! 
Great to see so many varieties ripening before it cools off!
Is that last big fig your Mario 1?

Hi Mario,
These trees are very hardy, they survived NY coldest winters a few years ago, also survived Super Storm Sandy, around 4ft in the back yard.

I have learned that it is nearly impossible to root cuttings from this because the clippings are very dry and woody. I have tried several times with no success and an old timer gets a chuckle when he comes over and see what I am trying to do. lol

I have now two trees, this was a very bad year as most of my fruit dropped, its been drought like conditions in this part, perhaps that has something to do with it??

I know Pino was also interested, but unless you know that it can be done some other way? I can send you some, I think Spring is the only time to make an attemp.

Mario, Peter.... let me chime in on the Persimmons since I am in Putnam County which is zone 6A.... In a word with regard to growing the desirable persimmons in ground up here.... fuggedaboutit!!!!  I have been growing persimmon like hachiya and Saijo and Fuyu and the such for many years and NONE of them will survive in the ground in my garden.... Been there, done that; nope! I presently have a bunch of potted persimmon which do the shuffle in and out of the garage along with the figs. THAT works. they will survive in large containers in the garage or unheated basement as long as things don't go down too cold and will sprout and fruit when placed outside. I am constantly looking for extremely cold hardy persimmon varieties and bought several more like this season from England's nursery; that said, I have burned through more money than I want to admit in trying to grow them in ground. Now, I grow them and I love having them but they stay in large containers....

Hope that is helpful with regards to zone 6A persimmons...

T

PS... by the way, the America persimmon does fine in the ground. I had one for years that produced bushells of small fruit that was good tasting... to a point. They are small and have a large seed. I cut that tree down and have been fighting a loosing battle with the root system continuing to sprout suckers all over the place. I now am considering using these volunteers for root stock to take my good varieties and graft them onto this very hardy root stock... I still wouldn't leave the resulting grafted plant in the ground becasue the grafted portion would die back.

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Mario, Peter.... let me chime in on the Persimmons since I am in Putnam County which is zone 6A.... In a word with regard to growing the desirable persimmons in ground up here.... fuggedaboutit!!!!  I have been growing persimmon like hachiya and Saijo and Fuyu and the such for many years and NONE of them will survive in the ground in my garden.... Been there, done that; nope! I presently have a bunch of potted persimmon which do the shuffle in and out of the garage along with the figs. THAT works. they will survive in large containers in the garage or unheated basement as long as things don't go down too cold and will sprout and fruit when placed outside. I am constantly looking for extremely cold hardy persimmon varieties and bought several more like this season from England's nursery; that said, I have burned through more money than I want to admit in trying to grow them in ground. Now, I grow them and I love having them but they stay in large containers....

Hope that is helpful with regards to zone 6A persimmons...

T

PS... by the way, the America persimmon does fine in the ground. I had one for years that produced bushells of small fruit that was good tasting... to a point. They are small and have a large seed. I cut that tree down and have been fighting a loosing battle with the root system continuing to sprout suckers all over the place. I now am considering using these volunteers for root stock to take my good varieties and graft them onto this very hardy root stock... I still wouldn't leave the resulting grafted plant in the ground becasue the grafted portion would die back.


I'm curious which persimmons from England's do you have now?
I have a Kasandra which survived last winter unprotected and am looking to get a chinibuli possibly. I've also planted and killed a handful of Asian persimmons here in Pittsburgh...

Tony, you should try the hybrid american-asian persimmons like Nikita's Gift which is supposed to taste like an asian but is rated down to zone 5 in hardiness.  Rosseyanka is another one to look at.

Travis, I ordered a Kassandra from Englands this spring but he ran out and I ended up with a nice one from JF&E. Instead of the Kassandara from Englands, I got an Inchon as a replacement and a Ice Crystal which took well and are growing in containers as well as a Korea Kaki and another called Steiermark. Englands ship bare rooted plants and the Korea and Steiermark did not sprout after potting up. He is replacing them now in October...

Steve, I also purchased a Nikita's Gift this spring from another nursery (have to look that one up) and that is doing well potted as well. I am hoping that the Nikita does well but I am not chancing things in ground any more for reason stated above... I have a few others in pots from several years ago including a Hachiya which sprouted beautifully but didn't fruit due to a late cold snap which didn't kill the plant but... I have one persimmon that is potted and so heavy with fruit that I have had to support branches even after some of the fruit dropped off. I looked for a Rosseyanka but couldn't find one and will look again in future.

Thanks,
T

Pino, the 2 black ones on tree are #1 but for some reason they look round in picture,they are more pear shaped than they look.

Hi, tsparozi:  Persimons are wonderful.  I would love to see pictures of your fruiting potted tree.  I have one in-ground persimon (no fruit for many years) and one potted persimon, young still and which I will keep in a pot.  Hopeful that next year I will have fruit!

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Travis, I ordered a Kassandra from Englands this spring but he ran out and I ended up with a nice one from JF&E. Instead of the Kassandara from Englands, I got an Inchon as a replacement and a Ice Crystal which took well and are growing in containers as well as a Korea Kaki and another called Steiermark. Englands ship bare rooted plants and the Korea and Steiermark did not sprout after potting up. He is replacing them now in October...

Steve, I also purchased a Nikita's Gift this spring from another nursery (have to look that one up) and that is doing well potted as well. I am hoping that the Nikita does well but I am not chancing things in ground any more for reason stated above... I have a few others in pots from several years ago including a Hachiya which sprouted beautifully but didn't fruit due to a late cold snap which didn't kill the plant but... I have one persimmon that is potted and so heavy with fruit that I have had to support branches even after some of the fruit dropped off. I looked for a Rosseyanka but couldn't find one and will look again in future.

Thanks,
T

Very nice, Mario!  Yes, happiness...

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I will post a pic, Meg...

T

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Very nice assortment Mario. Bon appetit...

Meg... here are a few pics of the fruiting potted Tanenashi
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