Hello guys!
I saw some hardy pomegranates on the internet, I read the Kazake the hardiest, but nowhere can i found how hardy, and i couldn't see a garden where i can buy them in europe. And what is the lowest temperature can it survive.
I want to ask it because i want to grow them in the ground in zone 6b in hungary. And we sometimes have -20 C but not usually.

Bass (on the forum) probably has the most experience in growing cold-hardy pomegranates.  I was able to root 3 varieties this year from cuttings via UC Davis: Salavatski, Kazake, and Entek Habi Saveh.  I think I had read somewhere that these were the most cold-hardy.  I think Bass has mentioned that his Salavatski has survived -8F with little to no damage.

I grow salavatski and others but the only one that has been productive for me is salvatski. I have over 25 on the tree right now. I picked some that were ripe and they are excellent this year.

Hello
Thanks for the replies. Those pomegranates looks delicous. But i have a question for you bass what is the lowest temperature is it survived? And what is your hardiest pomegranate the slavatski or?

Out of 5 varieties I planted 3 are still alive. One variety the Russian pomegranate died to the ground and sprouted. Wonderful died to the ground and never sprouted back. Salavatski and Kazake both survived 2 winters ago -8°F, The only damage on the Salavatski was one branch that was bearing lots of fruit previous season. 

Here's a video with showing the Pomegranates and other fruit trees.

How can you tell when they are ripe and should be picked?

Are there dwarf varieties of pomegranate ? Bass what is the variety of paw paw that grows like a grapevine? I couldn't make it out on the video. Thanks...

I just picked up 8 more cultivars last weekend.  Besides the  Salavatski and Kazke listed prior, Kaj-acik-anor, Surh-anor and Sumbar are reported some of the more hardy.  Early ripening can be as big a factor in a colder climate as well.  As far as I know Eight Ball is mostly an ornamental type. 

 For ripening I think it is best to wait until the skin starts to taunt up a bit and become a little leathery at least that's what I have tried with my limited experience. If it starts to split pick it. Color of the skin or the arils is not always a good indication and as stated not all cultivars are the Red of the familiar "Wonderful" cultivar found in the U.S. marketplaces.

Xenil,
In former Yugoslavia they had a variety Uzbekski Sladki Nar which is translated as Sweet Uzbek Pomegranate. This one could very likely be Kazake, as Kazake is a sweeter variety compared to Salavatski which is from Uzbekistan as well. So you can try to find that variety through some ethnic Hungarians who live in former Yugoslav republics and are members of the gardening forums.

Also, as a member said above, you can look for an early ripening variety which will not necessarily be cold hardy. Instead you could make every winter a box around it and fill it with leafs, hay, or straw for insulation.

Patee, the vine is hardy kiwi.
The Russian might be similar, but not the same hardiness. Since the Russian keeps dying down.
Eight ball is very sour, not edible.

Entekhabi Saveh is a cold hardy one. Does well in zone 6 without little to no protection.

Navid.

Thanks Alan , I going to look into these as I'd like to plant a few varieties at our FL home - so cold hardy is not an issue.

Bass thanks - lol I didn't realize it was a kiwi - I was so intent on trying to hear what you said instead !

From what I just read Eight Ball is also edible - but not sure about the taste!

Does anyone grow or tried Angel Red?

I have an Angel Red, mine should fruit next year I hope. I have tried the fruit and it is a softer seed as I recall with good flavor. I have tasted Eight Ball as well, that's why I referred to it as a ornamental. I think the color is why it was selected, not the taste.  In FL you have a wide selection that will grow well for you U.F. has  a project evaluating many types. See link below with a lot of great info in the drop down menu.  I prefer a sweet/tart mix but there are ones without tartness.

http://www.crec.ifas.ufl.edu/extension/pomegranates/

Salavatski, suhr anor, kazake, kaj acikanor, eight ball, favorite(lyubimi), flora plena, dk from shevlon and state fair all grow well in zone 7.

I am part of the study Strudeldog mentioned.  I have been growing:

Hello Guys!
Thanks for all reply.
-8 F* is very good for a pomegranate, so i think i will try the slavatski, and kazake in the ground with a little protection. 
WillSc can you take up some pictures from Kazake?
From the tree and the fruit.

I was recently contacted by a man who collected a pomegranate while Ashgabat, Turkmenistan. He brought the seeds home and planted them and one tree survived for several years and has lots of fruits. This tree grown here in Pennsylvania. He invited me to come visit him.

I just "discovered" this thread and some of you know I spend most of my pomegranate discussion time on a Yahoo group I started five years ago.

There are probably some pomegranate plants sold under the name "Russian", "Russian 8", and "Giant Russian" which are, in fact, Salavatski.  The confusion was created mostly because one hobby grower relied on Sharpie markers to really be permanent and discovered too late that they weren't.  There could very well be trees with different genetics called "Russian".  There are a lot of Russian pomegranates.

Kazake was mentioned somewhere above as being sweet.  It is a sweet-tart type, similar to Salavatski.  In the 2009 tasting at Wolfskill when I believe it was last included for tasting, the order of fruits from sweetest to most tart included Kazake at #10 and Salvatski was #11.  By comparison, Parfianka was #7.

Here is a photo from another member of the pomegranate discussion group which shows Kazake in the middle and Salavatski on the right:



Group is located at http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/PomWorldwide/

Someone mentioned the taste of Angel Red.  I have 8 trees of Angel Red in my orchard.  It doesn't ripen nearly as early as advertised, at least in my location.  When I let the fruit get very ripe in late October it was quite good.  I supplied fruit of it to Jeff at Davis and it was included at the Wolfskill tasting earlier this month and it was pretty well received but the seeds were harder than Wonderful, IMO.  The fruits are also smaller.  My earliest variety is Granada and it was spoiled already by late October.  I am also growing a couple of Kandahar Early but it's not producing yet.

food of the gods..full of antioxidants

there are so many varieties.....

i heard the russian varieties are so delicious

Zene, my crop this year was large enough to ship mail orders of pomegranates to quite a few customers.  One customer in NYC is a big fan and ordered three times, getting 140 pounds of them.  He was very enthusiastic, to say the least.  I sent him sweet types, sweet-tart types, etc., about 12-15 varieties altogether.  Some other people hadn't tried more than 1 or 2 varieties before and had a fun time with a tasting part of their own.