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Harvey's fig harvests in August 2014 - Updates

Ronde de Bordeaux.  Sweet and very good complex flavor.  I'm surprised at how much the flavor improves if allowed to ripen just one day more.  For instance, the partially-eaten fig on the right would probably be rated an "8" while the fig on the left was a "10" (or thereabouts, I'm not accustomed to assigning such scores).
 
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In this photo I removed the fig that wasn't full-ripe and replaced it with one that was.
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Dark Portuguese.  Fairly small, sweet with good flavor.

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Italian 376 is fairly rare.  It is described in the CRFG list of Italian varieties as possibly being Panache.  I asked co-author Mark Albert about that comment (Mark was the source of my cuttings) and wasn't sure where that came from but did mention that the fruit somewhat was striped purple and green before being full mature.

This is a large fruit, probably close to 100 grams.  It was sweet and flavor was very good.  I wouldn't say the flavor is complex but I liked the fruit a lot and am hoping for more good things as the tree matures.

Note that the last photo includes 3 fruits located at one node of the branch.

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Jance was purchased at Lowe's to use as rootstock for a scion that I believed at the time to be Ischia Black.  I will probably cut the graft off as it's not Ischia Black (probably Violette de Bordeaux which I already have).  This is my first fig from this tree and I was pleasantly surprised.  This particular fruit was partially sunburnt.  The flavor was sweet but also more complex than I expected.  Very good.

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Harvey,

What a show! Your figs are super.
Congratulations .

Francisco

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Harvey: Thanks for sharing your glorious photos and tasty figs.

Best,
Tam

Great photos, really nice group of figs, the darks are to die for, but I wouldn't pass up the lights. Thanks, really nice photos and details.

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Dark Portuguese.  Fairly small, sweet with good flavor.

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Hi! Harvey,

How are you? Can you please let me know where is the source of your Dark Portuguese? Thanks.

Best,
Tam

Those look great Harvey. Where's your Panache?

My figs are uniformly horrible tasting this year. I have some Hardy Chicago and Ginos about ripe, I will see on those.

So far, Bisirri Dark, Horrible and Emiliya Romana (Martin's Italian Brown Unknown?) similarly horrible.

Baah!

Tam, I obtained my cuttings of Dark Portuguese from Bass (Trees of Joy).

Donna, I believe I included photos of Panache in my July series.  Still enjoying them, though my oldest tree is getting shaded by my large jujube tree and is a bit slow in production.

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Harvey: Thanks for your information.

Best,
Tam

My first Olympian fig.  Fairly small fruit but sweet and fairly goof flavor.  Came from a tree in a half-filled 5 gallon pot.

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I've been picking Col de Dame Blanc for at least a few weeks but finally got around to taking a photo.  I should probably have picked these a bit earlier as the skin was a big chewy but flavor was very intense with just the right amount of sweetness.  I was in a sharing mood and everybody enjoyed them!

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Thank you Harvey for sharing such wonderful  pictures... Your figs look sooo mouthwatering... especially Col de Dame Blanc.  I just LOVE blood red interiors in figs.


Harvey,

All these are very nice and certainly delicious figs.
Congratulations!
Are here any figs you have so nicely described in this topic, worth an interesting commercial opportunity or, just collector's selected varieties ??

Francisco

Thank you, Francisco, I'm always appreciative of your valuable comments and insights.

Of the ones posted so far, most are probably too small or delicate for commercial production.  I would probably try marketing Longue d'Aout, Valle Negra, Italian 376, and maybe Princesa (seems too delicate, but Pons has recommended it, I'm told).  From my July posts, I would also probably market Panache, Flanders, Black Mission, Monstreuse, and maybe Jurupa.  I might also try UCR 184-15 because of it's large size and good flavor, but would need to be packed carefully.

If I ever get into breeding (hope to acquire or develop a black persistent caprifig), some of these others would also be useful for breeding.

My new orchard presently has three rows (46 trees in each row) and I figure I need to add at least two more to accommodate the trees I still have in pots.  In my plans I've figured I would be generating farm revenue from tree sales as well as fruit but I have been giving thought to needed to plant additional rows to plant more trees of the ones that are most suitable for fresh market fruit sales.  I'm afraid this may never end and create too much work for me.  Perhaps I should buy some lottery tickets in hopes that I can fund the hiring of one or two full-time workers to get all of the chores done....seriously!

Wait, what advantages does I-376 have over Genovese Nero?  Tougher skin?

Harvey are you looking for a black capri fig?

shah8, I don't suggest there are any advantages of Italian 376 over Genovese Nero.  Perhaps it does have an advantage in size and being a bit earlier to ripen (too early to say for sure).  My first Genovese Nero was taken by some thief last week (maybe rabbit, raccoon, opossum, or coyote) but I have some that are close.  I would probably add it to the list of potential commercial cultivars but need more experience from it.  Mark Albert has raved about good production of great figs from Italian 376 so I'm expecting good things from it.  Just don't know enough about Genovese Nero yet, though my three trees of it are growing very well.

Brian, I have several black caprifigs from various members here and I am hoping one of them is persistent, producing profichi that don't drop if not occupied by wasps.  I will test these when they fruit by bagging some fruit with "footies" (small nylon socks).  A persistent caprifig is required for breeding a common fig.

Harvey,

I agree to what you say. It's time to keep trying the most suited varieties.
BM or Preto if given the proper attention may grow a lot of large and high quality figs which last untill November.

Zidi, given its high qualities and very large size, only comparable to brebas will be ideal for the fresh fig market, for August sale

Black Bourjassot grows also a rather large fig up to the end of Octover.

With all your expertise, the good soil and environment you have in your area, very rapidly you may assess and compare the most suited types and varieties for your customers.

Francisco

Harvey you are the man!  When are you going to sell me some fresh figs mail order???  LOL, they look great! Don't forget about dried figs for your market aspirations.

Thanks for taking the time to post the pics. I saw some Janice trees in my area and this fig is pretty good, and they are very large figs. They call it Janice Seedless, well I saw seeds....LOL   Will probably buy one later, I am out of room and burned out on Figs....LOL   Will probably move on to the next fruit tangerines and nectarines...LOL

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Harvey you are the man!  When are you going to sell me some fresh figs mail order???  LOL, they look great! Don't forget about dried figs for your market aspirations.


After trials last year, I've given up on further efforts to ship ripe fruits.  A few varieties may withstand the rigors of shipping, but it's simply too time-consuming.  Also, dried fruits aren't something I really want to take the time to work with.  I'd be competing with much larger scale operators for a very similar product and would be working for $1/hour.  I do like having a few months of less hectic work when I can just play around rooting figs, etc. along with pruning my orchards.  Some folks that know me from my 30 year ag financing career (15 years of which while I farmed part-time) as being retired.  I explain to them I'm just re-tired.  Again and again.

It's great that you are getting to try so many wonderful figs.

Nice Harvey. Rub it in.

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