HarveyC
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I kind of went from a fig hobbyist to a figaholic last fall and went from about 15 varieties to around 100 with no real plans on what I was going to do with all of my new trees. I eventually decided to disc up a portion of my alfalfa field and set out stakes for 138 trees on a 12' spacing within the rows and 16' between rows, making up 6/10 of an acre. I have allocated 115 of my potted trees for this orchard made up of about 85 varieties with extras to be sold or traded or donated to some causes. Of the 115, 76 are now planted with the rest waiting to size up a bit more before being planted (hopefully, in 6-8 weeks for most). The empty spaces are being reserved for more trees of some of the varieties I already have or for a few more acquisitions. Here are some photos my farmhand took with his phone while finishing up planting while my son and I were in Idaho helping out my in-laws put up their winter supply of firewood. I have planted the trees on berms and this area can become pretty wet in the winter. I will have a high tension wire attached to each T-post about 12" above the ground to suspend a drip line. I am also considering installing some cross-arms next spring with two strands of wire for each row to trellis the trees somewhat similar to the photos Ken Love has shown at http://www.hawaiifruit.net/cf/images/fig5.jpg. This area of my farm is exposed to quite a bit of wind so the support can be helpful to reduce limb breakage and I would also like to be able to train trees to harvest efficiently.
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greg88
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HOLY COW~~~ NICE~!
__________________ Greg North West Arkanasas Zone 6b Wish list: any SPECTACULAR cold hardy figs, and/or perhaps a Niagra Bl., Laradek EBT, Kathleen's Bl, Hunt, a great UNK or anything anyone wants me to have???
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Very, very nice
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Going to enjoy your photo's in near future !
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Nice!
__________________ Meghan Cobb ~ Growing zone 9 Wish List: Pane e Vino White and /or Dark, De la Reina, Iranian mountain fig and anything else that is great to grow or at least try in the hot and humid Southeast Texas.
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It will be a nice orchard in just a few years. Now I wish, I had that much "flat" land, in a fig- friendly climate such as yours. Excellent work Harvey.
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looks outstanding harvey,,,,, glad the wood cutting went well too.
__________________ Scott, Long Island ,NY All my figs have been exposed to FMV,some have it, some don't. It doesn't seem to bother them so it doesn't bother me.
HarveyC
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Thanks, everyone! No begging here: one variety I still need to acquire (buy/trade/etc.) is Col de Dame Gris.
__________________Harvey - Correia Farms Isleton, CA (Sacramento County) USDA zone 9b, Sunset zone 14
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JD
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Harvey,
Impressive and inspiring. Thanks for sharing. I have a couple of questions: How long are the rows? What are those posts made of and what are you using to create the tension?
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Opportunity to have an annual fig harvest party/fig shop -- just like visiting fig germplasm. Great undertaking Harvey.
rcantor
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Great work! You should have a terrific harvest soon.
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Dude, Harvey that's awesome!! I think you might find this article interesting. http://www.donbarioni.com/images/Page%20A8%20%28Dons%20Article%29.pdf This guy basically did the same thing. He got fig, and olive fever. He devoted some of his families farm to develop an orchard.
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Harvey, Looking good. Wished I had a property and climate like yours. Please keep us posted.
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Right on, Harvey, that's awesome! Sometimes you just gotta go large :)
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Pattee
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Awesome !! Best of luck !
__________________ 7a & 9b ►I assume all my figs carry FMV ◄ Seeking : Italian 376,395 , Galicia Negra, Negretta,UNK Pastilliere ,Pananas Purple, Malta Blk+purple/red, Italian + Calabrian UNK's , Catanzaro, Malone, Sucrette(Baud) "We may have our private opinions but why should they be a bar to the meeting of hearts?" - Gandhi
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Hi Harvey, Lovely to see your new project taking shape........... Will be amazing soon once they all grow up. Good luck for the future.
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lampo
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Harvey, Nice orchard... good luck! I know, you shall be using and taking max advantage of local environmental conditions to make a model figfarm . Congratulations Francisco
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Future figtopia
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JustPeachy
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Color me pea-green with envy! Do I see a Pick-UR-Own in your future? They have tons of those places here. Have people pay you to harvest your orchard for 8-10 bucks per gallon depending on what the fruit is.
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Sophies Choices: Sultane, Sal's , Hardy Chicago and varieties suitable to z7b...not too picky at this point since we are still a fig growing virgin!
trif1010
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Very very impressive. Great job and good luck.
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Looks Great Harvey! I know it'll grow great in that climate
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ascpete
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HarveyC, Thanks for posting the pictures and commentary... I've used fence posts in a similar application, but nowhere near this scale. Please keep us updated. Good Luck.
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Hi Harvey. This is a great looking orchard! I also enjoyed watching your chestnut orchard on You-tube. Maybe you can post a you-tube video of your fig orchard also, as it progresses!
__________________ Elizabeth, Richmond, Virginia zone7a .
Ruuting
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Holy Cow! Harvey, that is gonna be amazing!
"If you build it..."
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Wowie!
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Very nice! Why do you keep the drip a foot above ground? Do animals chew it?
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Darkman
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Definitely a FIVE STAR operation! I can't wait to see it grow up. You are living the dream for all of us. Congratulations!
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Winter of 10/11 low 19
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Rewton
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That orchard will be a great resource. I imagine there are very few orchards in California that have such a diversity of varieties growing in the same location. What are you planning to use as ground cover?
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Tonycm
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Very nice fig orchard Harvey! I'd love to see it when it grows, especially at harvest time ; )
__________________ Zone 6a Sarver, PA Wish list; Rafed's Genovese Nero
striveforfreedom
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Looks great Harvey! Congrats on a beautiful orchard!
__________________ Vince Russo Norwalk, CT Zone 7A Wish list - Any cuttings of the Col de Dames would be greatly appreciated. Thank you.
HarveyC
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JD, the three rows are each 540' long, 46 trees in each row (plus room to turn on ends with tractor). The T-posts are made of steel and are what are typically used for cattle fencing and vineyard trellises (the ones I bought were unpainted and exactly what are used in hundreds of thousands of grape vineyards in the state). I painted the T-posts to reduce the temperature of the posts on hot days (just needed for a couple of years and they'll be shaded by then). The wire is also what is typically used in wine grape vineyards and wrapped around the end posts which are supported by braces to prevent leaning in, using special couplers that make the process easy (see http://www.gripple.com/products/catalogue/agricultural/products/gripplepluswirejoinerstensioners.html). Paully & Sophie, I don't know if I'll ever open up the orchard to the public but will just have to wait to see how it goes with other efforts to market fresh figs. Maybe I'd do something like offer tours for $20 with all the figs a guest could eat (plus sell more to take home). There comes increased insurance needs with U-pick plus increased damage to trees and potential off-hours visitors and theft. That's down the road. I also grow pomegranates and chestnuts so a tour could get pretty involved. It's just me and a farmhand but my wife might retire from her off-farm job before long. I may do some mail order fresh figs (will experiment with some small shipments) and also maybe the farmers' market scene and maybe market to restaurants. Henry, thanks, but I'm afraid of clicking on that link....don't want to get olive fever also! lol Kevin, the reason for suspending the irrigation line is for a few reasons. It won't stay on the ridge very well without some constant support. I have had rodent damage to microsprinklers but not on drip which I'll use for this orchard. I've also had coyote damage but this won't stop them. With drip suspended it is easier to hoe weeds and weedeat, etc. One other possible benefit I see is that suspending will give a slightly larger distribution of the water. Sometimes I have drippers on the ground and the water seems to go straight down a crack. Being suspend and in a windy area, the water will probably drip over a 6" or larger area. The one drawback is increased difficulty in stepping over the line but I'll probably mostly be harvesting one side of a tree (and the adjacent tree row) at a time. The expected training method of the trees will make it difficult to cross over anyways. Pete, I've seen some photos of your fig training and it helped convince my that I'm not completely crazy for giving this method a shot! :) Rewton, I'm not planning on any groundcover for now. I use a mixed grass groundcover in my chestnut orchard but want to keep temperatures elevated in my fig orchard and a groundcover reduces temperatures. If I put a groundcover in it will most likely be to remove excess moisture. This orchard is planted at about 5' below sea level with drainage ditches needed to collect river seepage which is then pumped back into the rivers which are held back by levees. There is a strong possibility that this orchard will not be irrigated once it is established except maybe to apply water soluble fertilizer. Thanks, Vince! Regarding the planned training of the trees on wires. I wrote Ken Love to ask about the purposes and benefits of the methods used in Japan. He indicated that these methods were originally used to help limit damage from strong winds during typhoons but that growers also saw stabilized good yields as a result of using a disciplined pruning method. I also suspect that horizontal branches may fruit a little earlier in the season (they do in some other tree crops).
__________________Harvey - Correia Farms Isleton, CA (Sacramento County) USDA zone 9b, Sunset zone 14
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hoosierbanana
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Harvey, if you are looking for another son I am up for adoption ; ) Thanks for sharing.
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HarveyC
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Brent, I'll let my 15 year old know he better get to work as he's got someone competing for his job! lol
__________________Harvey - Correia Farms Isleton, CA (Sacramento County) USDA zone 9b, Sunset zone 14
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jenniferarino83
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SO SOOOOOOOOOOOooooo AWESOME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I am way excited for you! Jennifer
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hoosierbanana
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I always wanted a little brother ; )
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eithieus
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very nice. very happy for you. keep up the nice work. and yes pictures later.
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Tam
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Look very good.
Lebmark
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In couple of years, your farm will be destination to Fig Lovers, after Visiting UCD Fig Farm, they will come to you. I like that you have a Lot varieties to choose from, and good luck in finding the ones you do not have. I like your Business Venture, and good Luck, Pleas keep us posted... Mark
__________________ Zone 7 Brooklyn,NY. Fig Wish List 2014: I-258 Genovese Nero, Violet Dauphine , Noir De Caromb, ROUGE DE BORDEAUX , BARNISOTTE, BARNISOTTE GRIS, Anything Lebanese ( I mean Fruit Plants...That I do Not Have...)
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Harvey, What a project! I put in a fig hedge around my orchard with around 80 or so trees. It's quite a bit of work as I'm sure you can attest but will be worth it. Regarding your variety selection, will you be culling varieties if they don't do well or perform well in your climate? If you plan to cull some varieties, how long do you expect you'll wait for a variety to prove itself before it gets the heave-ho? I am thinking of getting rid of a few in-ground Brown Turkeys this year. Not sure why I bought them in the first place and I'd rather have other varieties in their place! Also, how are you labeling your varieties? I'm utilizing impress-o-tags currently and hope they hold up well. Again, very impressive. I can't wait to see shots of this in a few years as growth really starts to take off. Tim
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awsfigs
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Harvey, Impressive.... Ann Zone 6 Pepper Pike ,Ohio
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mgginva
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Really wonderful and appreciated photos. thx
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nullzero
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Harvey,
Great job, its going to look amazing in the future. Congrats on a job well done, best of luck with your future fig crops.
HarveyC
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Tim, I won't cull out fig varieties unless I'm convinced they aren't worth growing and don't expect that to occur before 2016 or 2017. I presently have trees tagged with tags purchased from gardenware.com, a tyvek type material printed on with my laser printer. They last at least a couple of years and I'm able to print a lot of them quickly and easily and they are very legible because of being black on white (more so than the impress-o-tags) and I can include a lot of information. Over time, I don't know if I'll keep tags on trees at all but I have a map with each tree variety and source.
__________________Harvey - Correia Farms Isleton, CA (Sacramento County) USDA zone 9b, Sunset zone 14
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ForeverFigs
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Very nice post Harvey...you really jumped into the fig growing venture with both feet...I wish you the best of luck...would really enjoy some update photos from time to time. Thanks.
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deerhunter16b
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Wow great project ... Good luck !!! Should be a site to see when it's all grown up ....
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Bass
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Harvey, you should rent a spot for a tree. Charge an annual fee for growing and watering the tree, and reserve the right for cuttings and fruit.
It would be a 5 years contract.
What do you think?
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HarveyC
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Only approved tenants with references. Do you have references? :)
__________________Harvey - Correia Farms Isleton, CA (Sacramento County) USDA zone 9b, Sunset zone 14
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gorgi
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Amazing! And my congrats too. This makes some of us fig-people look like little dwarfs ...
__________________ George, NJ_z7a.
HarveyC
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George, for special friends like you maybe I could put up a little cabana in the middle of the fig orchard for visits/retreats! :)
__________________Harvey - Correia Farms Isleton, CA (Sacramento County) USDA zone 9b, Sunset zone 14
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HarveyC
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Finished installing the drip system today and planted five more trees that were ready. We have 80 trees in the ground in this new orchard now with several dozen more still in pots until they get larger.
__________________Harvey - Correia Farms Isleton, CA (Sacramento County) USDA zone 9b, Sunset zone 14
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