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Hello all! First post here and I need some advice. I have a rdb cutting in sphagnum peat moss that has leaves, but no roots. Question I have for the experts is, do I put the cutting in soil mixture or do I wait until I see roots? Thanks in advance for the help!

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I would leave it in the moss, be sure it is in dark place. I have lost more doing it the other way

Of course I am not an 'expert'. :)

This happens pretty regularly. Just keep it in the slightly damp moss and let 'er root! I keep mine on the hot water heater. Roots Will come in time.

I think I would score the bottom of the cutting to callous the end of the cutting. Sometimes this will promote rooting to catch up with the bud growth. I usually score the bottom of the cutting to promote rooting. It is usually pretty effective.

Thanks for the quick replies. I'm just fearful...my first go around on trying to root cuttings didn't go to well. Lost all cuttings that were purchased. :( but these cuttings that I got from fellow members looks promising.

Good luck! I HATE getting leaves before roots, regardless of rooting medium as my success rate on these types has not been good.... Similarly, if I get leaves AND a figlet first and no roots, I try my best to progress them as the others describe after removing the figlet but leaving the leaves but my success with leaves and figs but no roots is zero, zero, zero.... I think that in these small sample cases, the cutting expends almost all its energy on sprouting the bud/leaves and figlets and then has little reserve left to throw roots.... Not suggesting this happens to everyone... after 8 months, I am still a newbie as compared to others and still have many tricks to learn and even more to successfully implement....

I agree with everything above. 

I think scoring is a good option however don't get carried away. be gentle and just deep enough to expose the green cambium. I mad that mistake and lost....

Lastly, be patient. I've had cuttings for 6 months before the sprang a root.... It's not the best thing to have leaves before roots, but it's not a death sentence. 


Looking at your cutting, I think it will develop roots shortly.  I have some cuttings right now like yours.  I don't know if I am imagining it, but, when it was colder and my furnace was on more, the roots developed faster.  I try and put the container with cuttings on top of the heat register only because I think the roots will develop faster (whether it helps or not I really don't know but based on my experience I think it does).

heat helps

This season I had some cuttings that developed leaves before roots, but I leaved them until they developed roots. Scoring the bottom of the cutting will be a good option as Toronto Joe said, not very deep, just expose the green cambium and I will add some clonex or another brand or rooting hormone. Just a little bit, too much hormone will damage your cutting.
Also in order to promote faster root development, is good to keep the cutting in a dark enviroment and a place it in heat enviroment. For me a closet was a perfect place, but another place could be the top of your fridge. If your cutting is in a clear container, put it in a black bag. Dark enviroment and heat promote faster roots. Try to open the container once everyday to get fresh air, because dark and heat also promote fungus.

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Originally Posted by mfehmi
Dark enviroment and heat promote faster roots. Try to open the container once everyday to get fresh air, because dark and heat also promote fungus.


I have heard 2 schools of thought on this as far as i can tell.
One is darkness will promote root growth
as not a huge demand on the cutting.
Another, is, light/sun will help promote growth
as demand for water, and photosynthesis also are sending chemicals
up and down the pathway faster, making and bring hormones
which develop roots.

Also the reason some people take all (or most) of the leaves
off of a cutting to make it root
(reduce water demand)
or, leave some or most leaves on
(increase chemical pathway)

ive always only left 2 leaves, cut in 1/2 on cuttings, for almost any plant
and put them in shade.
come to find out, plants are different (LOL)
After trying to root a dozen species

i think it has a lot to do with the species
also, with the thickness of the cutting, since carbs are stored in them.
ive rooted many mulberry with no leaves, but with buds that pop out later

lately, ive had the best success with minimal leaves, in mostly shade
but giving it an hour or so a day in sunlight to dry things out and reduce mold.

i found worm leche and water can help stave off fungi also.




Greenman62  Worm leche?  Would that be worm casting juice or the more concentrated juice strained out of a worm bin. 

Concentration please. 

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