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ID please - 'tasty but fussy' has arrived with a bang

OK, here it is at last, as I've been threatening for some time now. Can anybody out there please put us out of our misery? The salient points are as follows:

1. Skin Colour: Predominantly yellowey-green, with an orangey-brown (and the merest hint of pink) 'blush'.
2. Flesh: Almost a skin tone - perhaps slightly more orangey, with a very marked deep red spot near the eye.
3. Size & Shape: Small pear and, errrr.............pear?
4. Taste: What can I say? When her indoors took a bite out of her half, she almost immediately went into orgasm. Since I was standing a good 5' away at the time, unfortunately I can't claim any credit ;-). I would describe it as 'broad spectrum' - that is to say, if I had to define a fruit by its flavour, this is the one I would choose to define a fig. I wouldn't even choose the Gk Yellow, coz altho the latter is sensationally sweet, it is almost one-dimensional compared to this one. Tasty but fussy is quintessential figness - the essence of fig, the extract of fig, the........well, I think you catch my drift. I don't think we've ever tasted better, period.
5. Texture: Even tho it was prob. slightly over-ripe by the time I picked it (showing some incipient splitting, possibly coz of the recent rains we had), it had none of the 'mushiness' that's so characterisitc of the Italian Purple when it's left on the vine too long, which her indoors finds slightly disagreeable. There is a slight crunch, but otherwise just incredibly succulent.
6. Leaf shape: Well, I'm no expert in describing those, so hopefully the pics will suffice.

EDIT: Oh yeah - forgot to mention. The coin is a £1.00 GBP. But you all knew that, didn't ya?

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Wish I could help. It looks great. I didn't know you got enough sun over there to ripen a fig.

I don't know but given that it has that effect on your wife I would definitely keep it :)

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Originally Posted by Rewton
I don't know but given that it has that effect on your wife I would definitely keep it :)


That's what I thought.

I'll have what she's having.

It is her tree now buddy, better make your own ; ) I think it is English Brown Turkey.

Please send me a cutting from this tree, please, please, please....only b/c it sounds like a good one, not b/c of the effect it had on your wife.....no, really....honest....  =)

@ Dale: Not only do we have enough sun, but we've been giving them away (esp. the Italian Purple) over the last week coz we just can't keep up. We don't give away many of this one tho. - it's just too good.

@ Rewton: So you saw my apology to the BTurkey then? Trust me, there was never any ?'n about keeping this one.

@ farowyn: Just so long as you promise not to make any embarrassing noises.

@ hoosierb: I'm ahead of you buddy - there's another (son of Tasty but Fussy) growing on the other side of the garden - grown from an air layer I planted about 2-3 yrs ago.

BTurkey you say? Doubtful. We have an English BT. It ripens to a deep purple, and has an inferior taste to this one, tho still quite acceptable. See my other thread where I 'apologize' for prematurely maligning it.

@ Jules: Joking aside, would love to send you a cutting, but you know the rules/law. 

So I take it all the experts are defeated then? Guess I'll just have to keep on calling it TbF then. What a let down.

Yes, I know the rules... =(  I know the laws are there for good reason, but it still sucks that you can't share TbF across the border.  Thanks for sharing it with us thru pictures and descriptions tho.  =)

Well, that was my pleasure Jules (tho it didn't quite match the missus' pleasure), and just to prove the point to Dale, here are just a few of our Italian, picked 2-3 weeks into the season. The earliest samples we picked were about 20-25% bigger still. As you can see, they're still quite a handfull.

EDIT: And have I mentioned that the Italian continues to ripen into December!!! That's right. Last year I went out to take a look in mid-December, & found 3 half-eaten, rotting ripe figs on the ground. I was mortified - it was the last thing I expected, so this year I'll be regularly looking out for ripe fruit well into winter.

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...and they say everything is bigger in Texas....LOL!! That's what I want, Costas, figs in the winter.  I may have to move to London.  =)

Jules, your winters have gotta be milder than ours, so logically, this variety would carry on giving all thru your winter. All you need mate is an Italian Purple. that's it.

Thanks, Costas.  I'm putting an Italian Purple on my wishlist.  =)  Oh, and a TbF also....you know, just in case the rules/laws ever change.  =)

So you musta seen pigs fly recently then?

Sure, haven't you seen the insurance commercial with the flying pig??  lmbo

Sure have, it's one of my pets.

OK guys, I'm still not quite ready to give up on this one. Would it help any if I posted some pics of one or two better-defined leaves? I realized today that the leaf I picked was not the most typical of the tree, so how much does that matter, and how much of the ID is determined by the fruit?

Look GREAT!!  wish they were available in the states

The shape and size looks like colle de damme blanc . The inside is a bit dry but it could be picked early or climatic conditions .
But it would explain the great taste .

John

I can't be of any help with identification but I would be very interested to know if anyone else knows what it is.

At post #6, hoosierbanana said 

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I think it is English Brown Turkey.


You'll find some pics on this thread that show my BT alongside my TbF. I think you might agree with me that hb's ID is unlikely.

http://figs4funforum.websitetoolbox.com/post/an-experiment-posting-a-photo-and-an-apology-to-the-bturkey-6497934







@ John: So you think it might be colle de damme blanc? I'll check it out & let you know. The end of your middle sentence makes no sense, so not sure what you're trying to say there. I can tell you that compared to both my IP and BT, TbF is a comparatively late ripener.

It's also not very productive - that's why I've nicknamed it 'Fussy'. Last year we had an atrocious summer, and there was not a single ripe fruit from it. Even my IP managed about a doz. ripeners, and the BT about half a doz. This year we're on course for about 15-20 ripe fruit, which is the most I've ever got from it.

OK John, Iv'e now checked out the forum database and carried out a google search, and I have to say your suggestion re. col de dame blanc looks about as unlikely as the BT ID, for the following reasons:

1. The flesh color of TbF is much lighter than cddb.
2. TbF is a larger fig.
3. Skin color of TbF looks a lot more subtle.
4. Leaf morphology of TbF looks a lot less 'busy'
5. Cropping pattern of TbF (in terms of both season timing and productivity) do not match those of cddb

But it was good of you to have a stab, & I really appreciate it mate. Thx for your interest, but my quest continues.

ENGLISH Brown Turkey. 

Check out posts #12 and #13 here http://figs4funforum.websitetoolbox.com/post/souther-brown-turkey-6381140

Certainly getting closer hb, but skin color pattern still doesn't look quite right, & I'll have to take another look at my leaves for comparison. Danny also seems to have doubts about the ID of his own 'BT'. Now if you're telling me that what passes for BT can be subject to a wide variety of colors, shapes, leaf morphology, etc., then that's a different ball game, and yes, in that case, it could well be a BT as you say.

All I can say is that it bears virtually no semblance to my known BT purchased from a nursery, and if subject to such wide variation of cultivars, begs the question of how almost any fig can be identified with any confidence.  

Costas,
There are many cultivars available in Europe that are only dreamed of in the US. Part of the naming confusion also comes from cultivars being tagged with the incorrect name , due to greed (looking to make a profit) or ignorance. It seems that any dark fig can be and has at times been called "Brown Turkey", but they definitively were not.

Your TBF may not have reached these shores due to fewer desired qualities or less wide spread availability in the past. IMO your TBF resembles the Lebanese Red from a East Coast Nursery, (scroll down and look at the posted fig pictures).  I do not own this cultivar or have access to Leaf pictures, I'm only going by your posted pictures of figs.

BTW the English Brown Turkey has a pink ostiole (eye) when ripe, your TBF does not.
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