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 fig cittings Medici HR Black #1

Uhm, ask her: http://figs4funforum.websitetoolbox.com/profile/1371270

Well cuttings are brought in illegally and sold as what they really are. This is how we have figs from all over the world. Just a simple FIG fact.

That is Olga, She is a very trustworthy fig collector. She clearly explains all the details of the fig cuttings she is offering in her auction. She is very well know in the fig community. I bet that fig variety will make a nice  jewel to any fig collection.

Yes, Olga is a trusted fig collector, enthusiast and eBay seller and a very generous source of great varieties. I would not hesitate to bid on anything listed by her and follow her on ebay just to make sure I see her listings in a timely manner... As we all know... timing is everything...

dragonking1959 purchased a bunch of trees from me

I trust Dragonking1959(aka Olga), even met her. She has an awesome collection.

Who is the source of the cuttings though? And who wrote the description?

http://www.ebay.ca/itm/291944578813

So , the answer is clear; it is ok to bring  cuttings from other continent and sell it on eBay.

Good to know that it is not illegal anymore.

I'm not so sure what's the point behind this whole conversation is.
Olga is a long time member of this forum and other forums and has a huge fig collection from around the world that would make any fig grower envious.
They also sell Brown Turkey in Europe which has the same description. To me a scam means selling a variety under a different name. This is not the case here.

I'm not sure who pofigist is, but know Olga. I believe that you have your sellers confused.

Hello, everyone!
Thank you very much for nice words..
Yes, I don't sell on Ebay all the time..
Only if I can share something real good or unique..
I think I write in description all info, and when people want to know more I always answering the questions....
I don't advertise my auction on any forums..
I crazy about figs myself and if I can help other people to get something good..
And yes, I try to buy as much as I can, I hope people in US will continue to grow figs and we all will be able to have more varieties in our collections..

Happy Holidays!
Olga

Happy Holidays, Olga! Best wishes to you and yours for a healthy, happy, prosperous and fruitful New Year!

I just bought unk cuttings from Olya(Olga), advertised as unknowns, so I see no problem with what was advertised and what I purchased. Sounds like a delicious unk fig variety. They should do okay where I live since I am about 2 hours southwest of Olya. Thanks for the nice purchase.

Who said it was illegal? I can't speak for the USA but in Canada, it's not illegal to import fig cuttings from Italy or many other country's providing you do it correctly. From Italy to Canada for instance, there are very legal (and common) ways to import fig cuttings provided they don't include leaves, roots or soil. We eat all manner of imported fruits and vegetables. That's how they do it. Not illegal. Today I think I ate a kiwi grown in Mexico and a strawberry from somewhere....not here.

Phytosanitary certificates are pretty common. I don't know if that's what happened in this specific case...And I don't know Olga....But I'll bet we've all eaten an imported product pretty recently.

Then - the other point already mentioned. If you're dead set against anyone having a fig tree that wasn't imported in under official circumstances....and you own trees whereby you can't confirm their origin....Then you may want to consider destroying your collection....Where do you think your Chicago Hardy came from?

Happy figging everyone!

I'm pretty sure you can get cuttings from Canada, Thailand, China,  somewhere in South America..
If I will find papers from USDA I will tell you exactly..But they saying info keep changing, so first you need to check list of countries from where you can get cuttings on USDA web..

Sellers aren't required to show sources when they sell cuttings. The only reason figs are restricted is a longhorn beetle which I'm pretty certain lives in Malaysia, don't quote me. In any case, the question if Olga's authenticity as a seller has been resolved. I like to get the opinion of others on sellers, but I think people are getting very very paranoid. As figs become more interesting, more people buy, grow and sell them.

By the way, thanks for weighing in Olga.

I think it is that same longhorn beetle that is wiping out all of the figs on the island of Malta. I used to think that members here were responsible enough to handle something like that but now that they are importing to distribute I take that back.

What drives people to want exotic varieties from far off lands? Netflix series? Money? Loneliness? The people who brought the varieties we have today did it for love...

Anyway, for those of you who have not been around very long, the forums are not immune to scammers, although some people will publicly deny that to the bitter end, for some reason. But the reality is that people can say "I just broke the law and imported cuttings from the farthest corners of the earth" and there is nothing that the USDA can do about it. Why? Because this is the internet and people lie, seriously, it is a golden opportunity to rip people off. If you see someone talking about getting such and such from Europe they might be setting out bait for unsuspecting newbies such as yourself to message them and request a purchase. Ever wonder why some people seem to stick their noses into every thread to disclose that they have the topic variety?

More people are selling figs now and that is about it, overall interest has declined in the past 2 years, fewer new growers, less interesting conversations, less experience being shared overall. 

Just my 2c. I doubt many people will want to read it but it is a good thing to remember that how we behave will attract or repel certain types of people and that will shape our future.

Hello, everyone!
This is very interesting..
I was wondering who is a "pofigist" and why this post happen now, when this listing go for few weeks already..
And why this person don't put the name anywhere?
Harvey.. this will be interesting for you..
You remember scamers from 2 years from now who made crazy my auctions? Guess who???
This person.. who I did try help in beginning trying to put me in trouble for a some time now..
Harvey..I think you need to finish what you start early..
Olya.

"More people are selling figs now and that is about it, overall interest has declined in the past 2 years, fewer new growers, less interesting conversations, less experience being shared overall. "

I have been a member since 2010 or before, I would have to look up the old email of membership.
Over the years I notice a new group of newbies rotate through 4f4.
I find it funny that the newest members seem to have the most to say.
Disgusted with the forum or people on it at times made me not want to be a part of
it what so ever. So I deleted my account. Well I get excited about figs too and then end up re joining.

None the less I have been the route with the usda.
They contacted me a year or more later about cuttings I bought from china.
I had after getting the first letter, ripped up the fig trees from those cuttigs
and I took pictures with name tags still attached.
Then I put them on a roaring hot  fire and burnt them to ashes.
I just so happened to video them burning as well.
Those photos and movie was the only thing that prevented a private visit by the usda
in my area.  I called them told them what I did and sent a man a email with the pictures and movie.
We discussed the laws and I apologized.
He was fine with that and dropped it.
Others may not be so lucky as he said he could take any questionable trees he likes.
I did not want him in my newly growing orchard.

I'm losing the thrill of figs or trying to help noobs.
I just grow em.

Doug

About longhorn beetle.. I think this is a real dangerous..And everyone need to be very careful , if this creaure will get here.. we will lose all our figs, so, please, please, be careful.. Our country have no defence to this beetle.. 
On other hand.. I find out here in US we do have ambrosia beetle, what also killing figs trees..
And this beetle live in north part of US.. So, everyone need to be careful and check they plants all the time..
Before I find out about this ambrosia beetle I was not so paranoid.. but after I find out in the middle of the night with flash light I went outside and start checking every one my plant..
And I find out few plants have deformation on the trunk near soil, this deforming happen must be 2-3 years from now, nothing fresh.. I think because I'm putting figs on top of red mulch, covering soil in pots with red mulch, keep spraying plants with 10% Clorox and mix of neem oil and dish soap, I must be kill them back then and even don't know about this till now.. So, I guess, me spraying kill them all.. So, everyone, please, check your plants, and be very careful..
Thank you!
Olga.