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godsavesthequeen

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Hello everybody,

I post some pics of unknown fig tree which grows for more 50 years in my garden here in Marseilles.

Perhaps that tree belongs to "ethnic fig trees", has never been  planted, and may be here via maritime or airway traffic between France and Turkey... I think it could be patlican fig because very similar look.

Figs are medium, weight circa 50g, green-purple at maturity, opercule rather small.

The adult fig tree is robust, tall. Only one crop in the beginning of September until October here in Marseille. For 30 years I observe it, never seen brebas.

Thanks for your help!

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I don't know if this is Patlicacn, but it looks nice.
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Thanks!!
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Chriss,

I missed your topic.
These are very attractive figs. They could be Patlikan but I am not sure. Have you any active wasp colonies near your place ? Found this link showing the Patlikan and leaves but it is in Turkish.. Aliok1 another forum member from Turkey could eventualy help


http://www.sakaryatarim.gov.tr/lifletler/liflet/incir.pdf

http://www.rizedenal.com/urun/rize-incir-fidani-patlican-incir/28

Do you mean that your tree could originate from a seedling ??

Francisco
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Great to hear to you again, Fransisco!

Thank you for the links!

In fact, the fig corresponding to the other thread you said it could be a "winner" was probably the real Patlican. This one morphologicaly very closed to Patlican, but smaller. The weight is < 50 g.

The flavours of both figs are not the same.  "Big" Patlican from former thread has more "grenadine" flavour, closed to raspberry. This "small" Patlican has more sugar or honey flavour.

I dont know if this "small Patlican" could emerge from an ancient seedling... It is not impossible. Marseille has great colony of greeks natives from Smyrna, also there are plenty of Tûrkish or Armenians natives, the town is reputed for portuary exchanges. As far I remember (I am 49 old now!) that "small Patlican" was here where my father bought the family house. The young fig tree was productive.

Every old houses in my  neighborhood   had its own fig tree. Closed to my house, stands the "Campagne Pastré" which was nice   estate who belonged to the Comptesse Lily Pastré. In the 70's  Pastré Estate became a park. in the early XX Lily Pastré introduced plenty of rare provenances, Gôklop fig tree, Black Marseille VS (= Burça) fig tree, varied or wild  caprifigs, Quercus ballota, Q. dentata, Q. macranthera ...

So the fig germplasm is very varied here....: among that, it is possible that wild cultivars emerged? Perhaps "small patlican" (as I use to name it!),  emerged via seedlings?

There is plenty of caprifigs in the neighborhood. The wasp has great vitality. I guess because Marseille has right microclimate for the fig trees, with convection, not much latent heat flux, and much sensible heat warming and drying  the atmosphere.

Cheers!!
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