Scott,  Got a quick response from Jason re: "LSU Black @ PftP"

"I am not sure if it is the same as Scott's Black. Our original plant came from Dr. Himmelrick at LSU. It is darker on the outside and lighter on the inside than LSU purple."


EDIT: If this is Scott's Black (link below), seems must be different - JFE's "Scott's Black" has dark center:

http://www.figs4funforum.websitetoolbox.com/post/lsu-scotts-black-2011-2012-5330984?highlight=lsu+scotts+black&pid=1274321493#post1274321493

Thank Rick.

I will be gladly growing them both out to see what I have. 

Thank you for your help. 

First year with LSU Scott's Black.  Nothing to compare.  Nice thread.

Suzi

Very interesting.  Well, I guess I'll start to get a better idea what I have in a couple years.  Thank you all!

If you can find the thread, Marius describes LSU black he received. It had a golden interior. He stll has plant lable too.

I picked up 6 from pftp including the Pappa John.

I have both fig trees growing next to each other and both are load with figs,so I will post the results and pics as soon as they are ripe  .............in a few weeks

Excellent Brian, thank you, I'm looking forward to that report. 

Thanks Brian

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I have an LSU black that I got from another member. Produces sparce and late.

Just got the Scott's black from the Driveway farmer. I hope they are different.

One thing for sure...the LSU Scott's Black has a RED inside!

Anything without the Red is not true to type, and may be a Black, a Late Black, A St Gabriel, or a Native Black, or an Italian Black.  The Native Black and the Italian Black are from Becnel and could be the same fig, I don't know.

The Scott's Black is a great performer in production, rooting, and growth.  It is also a very good tasting fig.

Does anyone have a picture of LSU black fig?

Brian - Great input.  As I said, Yes on the RED.

The whole LSU "Black" thing is a mess.  I have the Scott's Black, the Thibodaux and am kinda satisfied with my "Black Fig" section as I have the Native Black, Mission, and VDB as well.  If I were to add another LSU "Black Fig" ti would be the St Gabriel but really it would be only to "Check the box".

I do not have the Italian Black but I know they are different from the Native.  Somewhere I have read that a Becnel Plantation shipping list from the 1700/1800 era had a fig listed as "Black Fig from France".  I would assume that that was the original Native Black.  Not sure enough to argue, but I don't argue anyway, LOL

Long time, never posted NC7b member, I have LSU Scotts Black, Black, Late Black, and Saint Gabriel among other LSUs.  Saint Gabriel fruited for me this past summer - two figs on second season tree.  The Saint Gabriel that I have bore a medium plus size brown fig - not black.  My Late Black has not fruited nor Thibodeaux.  Help my confusion here is Saint Gabriel a dark purple/black fig or brown?  Sometimes figs show up from foster homes rather than from their biological parents.

For what it's worth, here is my two cents. Over the past 10+ years, I've purchased lots of fig trees from JFE. For someone who drive from Charlotte to Jamieson, Alabama to purchase fig trees from PFTP, and purchased every fig tree they carry and held long discussions with them about whether their LSU Black and the now known Scott's Black......I believe these 2 figs are the same. Yes, I have them both.

Why? I think this fig was always called LSU Black. According to PFTP, this fig came to them as "LSU Black". Somewhere years ago, some nursery changed the name or renamed this fig. This is how figs get multiple names across the country.

Thanks,

For what it's worth, here is my two cents. Over the past 10+ years, I've purchased lots of fig trees from JFE. For someone who drove from Charlotte to Jamieson, Alabama to purchase fig trees from PFTP, and purchased every fig tree they carry and held long discussions with them about whether their LSU Black and the now known Scott's Black are the same.......I believe these 2 figs are the same. Yes, I have them both.

Why? I think this fig was always called LSU Black. According to PFTP, this fig came to them as "LSU Black". Somewhere years ago, some nursery changed the name or renamed this fig. This is how figs get multiple names across the country.

Thanks,

 The LSU Scott's Black and the LSU Black are NOT the same fig.

I don't care who said what to whom, there is no Nursery anywhere that has the knowledge that Dr. Johnson (LSU Professor, most associated/knowledgeable expert) has and I heard Dr. Johnson talk about this at two separate LSU Fig Field Days.  Brian (CAJUNB) is absolutely correct in his description above.

Some nursery guy/person, somewhere, talking about something they know nothing about is how a lot of plants/trees get mis-labeled/named.  This is further screwed up by nurserys mislabeling and distributing their mistakes and fig enthusiasts taking the label as gospel and perpetuating the errors.

Thanks Danny. Appreciate your response!

Cheers!

Before I order a couple of plant test from BioTech, I plan on calling John Prece at UC-Davis and see if they can recommend a preferred lab for Plant DNA testing. There are 3 groups I am interested in testing:

1. LSU Scott's Black from JFE and LSU Black from PFTP
2. Latturula and Marseilles
3. Strawberry and Verte

Cheers,

Dennis,

Let us know about the Scott's Black results.
Mine is a super fig, one of the most vigorous and tasty, very productive too.