Lampeira Preta showing up now

lampo
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The very first always go to birds - Lampeira Preta - (not Lamperia!)

will show more soon

Francisco
Portugal

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Timo
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Thank you for posting these pictures, Francisco. In a couple of years I hope to taste also a couple of these LP brebas.
Thank you for making this fig available. It’s very much appreciated.

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lampo
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Yes Timo
Thanks for commenting
Brebas from San Pedro types may take a bit longer to show up. It pays the 'inconvenience' of pruning all fruit for the first couple of years to let the tree grow strong initially. It will pay back on the third or fourth year with many fruit.
Good luck!
Francisco

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brianm
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Yes thank you Timo and Francisco. I am putting this one in ground and have plenty of wasps to pollinate.

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halfwurst
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Hey lampo,
that looks very good!
I think will go to the market already tomorrow and check out what they have there already :)

And thanks again for the cuttings, the Lampeira is still growing strong, if I could up-pot it now, it would be growing even faster, but I need to save space in my car ;)

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lampo
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Yes thank you Timo and Francisco. I am putting this one in ground and have plenty of wasps to pollinate.

Brian ,
Glad to hear you trying Lampeira Preta . If you have available space suggest a second one
One driven for breba crops and .. given your location with free pollination and plenty of sun-hours the second one for main crop fruit (their main crops are usually very prolific) to be consumed fresh as well as dried... a delicacy, with a rather special flavor,.. (marzipan!) and much 'true' crunching.

Francisco
Portugal

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lampo
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Originally Posted by halfwurst
Hey lampo,
that looks very good!
I think will go to the market already tomorrow and check out what they have there already :)

And thanks again for the cuttings, the Lampeira is still growing strong, if I could up-pot it now, it would be growing even faster, but I need to save space in my car ;)

Hello... Think it's a good idea!
Saturday is ideal for the market in Tavira !!
Show us pictures please.. There may be other brebas down there !!

Francisco

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halfwurst
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Will do!

and well, I did find these Brebas today in our local market:

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the market in Tavira is also open on Sundays, right? Because I will go tomorrow :)

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lampo
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Originally Posted by halfwurst
Will do!

and well, I did find these Brebas today in our local market:

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the market in Tavira is also open on Sundays, right? Because I will go tomorrow :)

Hello!
Very nice brebas!
What are they ?
I am not aware of any Markets open in Tavira on Sundays..

http://www.tavira-today.com/Tavira_Markets.html

The only 'BIO' farm market Am aware of, operating on Sundays is too far WEST .. in Alvor approx 90KM west of Tavira!!
It's very small and to see what's available for sale you need to be there early..8H30/9H00 AM ! the latest
Otherwise you may not find much ! and may be you not find Lampeira which ripens in the area at least a fortnight later than Tavira!
Francisco

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halfwurst
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Originally Posted by lampo

Hello!
Very nice brebas!
What are they ?
I am not aware of any Markets open in Tavira on Sundays..

I don't know, the lady said that they were from her own garden... But there were so many people today (weekends...) so I couldn't ask if she knew the variety. I might go back on Monday and may ask for a cutting.

Then Wednesday it is. I will still look for roadside stands if they have fruit ;)

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lampo
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OK.
That breba could well be another Lampeira not very popular (Lampeira Parda) already spoken on the forum
The fruit is very big (easily going above 200gr) but not as sweet and flavored as LPreta

Francisco

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halfwurst
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Originally Posted by lampo
OK.
That breba could well be another Lampeira not very popular (Lampeira Parda) already spoken on the forum
The fruit is very big (easily going above 200gr) but not as sweet and flavored as LPreta

Francisco

That does sound quite fitting, since they are only mildly sweet, not as sweet as I expected. And one of them was easily 150g...

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lampo
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Originally Posted by halfwurst

That does sound quite fitting, since they are only mildly sweet, not as sweet as I expected. And one of them was easily 150g...

Yes, now you know
The insides are more or less what the picture shows ...
In Portugal few sell these brebas..... just for collectors !!
Francisco

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halfwurst
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Originally Posted by lampo

Yes, now you know
The insides are more or less what the picture shows ...
In Portugal few sell these brebas..... just for collectors !!
Francisco

now I really want a cutting :D
Thanks for the info!

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lampo
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Originally Posted by halfwurst

now I really want a cutting :D
Thanks for the info!

If the fig lady cannot help you with a pair of cuttings, tell me and I shall try and arrange these but, at the right time for cuttings.
Francisco

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halfwurst
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If the fig lady cannot help you with a pair of cuttings, tell me and I shall try and arrange these but, at the right time for cuttings.
Francisco

Oh wow, thank you! I will go there probably sometime this week, but I am here only until next week Tuesday, so I recon this is too short... We'll see.

And I couldn't find any figs on roadside stands yesterday, only watermelon, oranges and other 'usual' stuff. Hopefully better luck on Wednesday.

Oh on a side note, do you have the variety 'Sultane de Marabout'? I might be able to get my hands on this one for you.

max

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AltadenaMara
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Thanks for posting these pictures. I was able to root three cuttings of LP last year from Harvey. The trees are in 5 gallon pots now and have little figs forming but I think they are too small to be brebas. It will be interesting to see if they develope this year.
The Lampeira Parda brebas are astonishing in size but I would rather have smaller brebas with more flavor. However, right now I would settle for any brebas with any flavor. What has "ripened" so far is disappointing.

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lampo
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Mara,
Your young Lampeira Preta is probably showing a very first layer of main crop figs
and a friendly advice will be for you to prune all these figs and focus on building up a strong tree no matter its final destination - ground or pot-
Depending on how it grows from now on.. then you shall decide what to do next but I would never allow it to ripen all its fruit.. not before its 4th year

Francisco
Portugal

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lampo
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Originally Posted by halfwurst

Oh wow, thank you! I will go there probably sometime this week, but I am here only until next week Tuesday, so I recon this is too short... We'll see.

And I couldn't find any figs on roadside stands yesterday, only watermelon, oranges and other 'usual' stuff. Hopefully better luck on Wednesday.

Oh on a side note, do you have the variety 'Sultane de Marabout'? I might be able to get my hands on this one for you.

max

Sorry Max, I did not comment on your 'Sultane de Marabout' question but here it goes.
Seen in the forum various Sultane ..or Sultani from various growers (Baud -- Aaron..) and did grow Marabout (a Smyrna)
Iam now rooting a Sultane,.. from a trade with a French friend as well as a young Marabout (rabbits ate the first one)
Can you give details of your Sultane de Marabout .. pictures.. type of fruit.. etc

Francisco

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halfwurst
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Originally Posted by lampo

Sorry Max, I did not comment on your 'Sultane de Marabout' question but here it goes.
Seen in the forum various Sultane ..or Sultani from various growers (Baud -- Aaron..) and did grow Marabout (a Smyrna)
Iam now rooting a Sultane,.. from a trade with a French friend as well as a young Marabout (rabbits ate the first one)
Can you give details of your Sultane de Marabout .. pictures.. type of fruit.. etc

Francisco

So you already have it? It's this one:

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lampo
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Originally Posted by halfwurst

So you already have it? It's this one:

Thank you Max
These are apparently the same cultivar as Baud describes on his fig page

http://www.fig-baud.com/cataloguefiguiers/catsultane.html
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FYI, these were my appetizer today, on an early breakfast just under the tree at my brother's place.
Way back in 1901, Gustav Eisen on these same grounds, by about this time and like I did today, saw and tasted these fruit,... commenting that they were ideal for commercial growers in the Cal. Central Valley.

Francisco
Portugal

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halfwurst
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I really envy you, because I still did not taste the Lampeira Preta! Maybe tomorrow.

The fig I am talking about is and which can be seen in the pictures Sultane de Marabout, as you said a Smyrna, the one you and Baud referred to is 'Sultane' and a common variety, which is also supposed to be very hardy which is why I have this one in ground in Germany. I think you mixed these two up :)

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lampo
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Originally Posted by halfwurst
I really envy you, because I still did not taste the Lampeira Preta! Maybe tomorrow.

The fig I am talking about is and which can be seen in the pictures Sultane de Marabout, as you said a Smyrna, the one you and Baud referred to is 'Sultane' and a common variety, which is also supposed to be very hardy which is why I have this one in ground in Germany. I think you mixed these two up :)

Max, you need to go early to Tavira... it's not that far ! 'cause the 'figos lampos' sell very rapidly!
To be 100% sure show the seller the pictures I sent a while ago.

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on the other subject: ....
I think there is some confusion about Sultane and Marabout !
I have not yet ripened the Common Sultane, the small size black 'Biferous?' cultivar - may be next year ..but ..

I have grown a couple of years ago the Smyrna type Marabout.. a very nicely colored very large fig ! check on this:
http://figs4funforum.websitetoolbox.com/post/marabout-7608638?highlight=marabout&pid=1288749011
my Marabout experience is all explained there.
This same tree was eaten by rabbits and I am trying to grow a second one now !
cheers
Francisco

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haslamhulme
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Francisco,why must you torture us poor northerners with such beautiful pictures of Lampeira Preta!, I will have no breba figs this year,instead i should eat squirrels,it is only fair after they chewed of all my brebas.

You described this fig as having a marzipan taste?,I hope you are not kidding because if you are telling the truth then I need to get this fig

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lampo
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Francisco,why must you torture us poor northerners with such beautiful pictures of Lampeira Preta!, I will have no breba figs this year,instead i should eat squirrels,it is only fair after they chewed of all my brebas. You described this fig as having a marzipan taste?,I hope you are not kidding because if you are telling the truth then I need to get this fig

Haroon, sorry ... My apologies!
I cannot resist sharing with everybody the good local fig pictures.
You see. I am also tortured not being able to grow those nice and tasty/flavored 'apple-bananas' and papayas in my soil !!

Back to figs, the marzipan business regards the LP main crop which unfortunately requires pollination
It promotes through maturation a substantial number of crunchy kernneled seeds which once chewed gave this fruit that particular flavor. Others may not feel any particular taste..you know - it depends ! they may simply say: - tastes figgy !!
and they are absolutely right.

Francisco
Portugal

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