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jffrandall1

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Posted 1353380422	Reply with quote #1

Just curious as to which fig variety that most fig fanatics dont have but would love have. Or just the most sought after variety. Just wondering probably a stupid question! Lol __________________ Jeff! Buford Ga Zone-8 southeast hot humid Good ole Ga. Wish list: Starting all over so any variety now!! Maltese falcon, Izbat an naj,Maltese beauty, Rhonda de bordeaux, Socorro black, Tashkent , Encanto red, Pastiliere, anything that is delicious!!

garden_whisperer

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Posted 1353380982	Reply with quote #2

Beings i only have 5 Hardy chicago, brown turkey, blue celest, purple magnolia, and desert king. there are a few i would love to get my hands on. but my top four i would have to say would be sal's fig, Marseillies vs black, Ronde de bourdeaux, and th holy grail at least the main one for me, Noir de Caromb. What is your most sought after fig __________________ Dave Zone 6b Illinois "Be the change you wish to see in the world"

kubota1

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Posted 1353381038	Reply with quote #3

I'd like to have Maltese Beauty __________________ Art- Western Pa. 6a

rcantor

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Posted 1353381364	Reply with quote #4

It will be different in different areas but if you go by ebay price the list would be something like Galacia negra Maltese Falcon, presumably Maltese Beauty also Col de Dame Gris, noir and blanc Red Lebanese Barnissotte Noir Nordland NKesh's unknown Dark Greek What else, ebay watchers? :) Of course there are lots that I haven't seen on ebay but are reputed to be great. __________________ Zone 6, MO Wish list: Galicia Negra, De La Reina - Pons, Genovese Nero - Rafed's, Sbayi, Souadi, Acciano, Any Rimada, Sodus Sicilian, any Bass, Pons or Axier fig, any great tasting fig.

jffrandall1

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Posted 1353381468	Reply with quote #5

I to would like to am very interested in the Rhonda de Bordeaux. The maltese beauty looks to be a good one. Thanks for the inputs. Keep them coming!! __________________ Jeff! Buford Ga Zone-8 southeast hot humid Good ole Ga. Wish list: Starting all over so any variety now!! Maltese falcon, Izbat an naj,Maltese beauty, Rhonda de bordeaux, Socorro black, Tashkent , Encanto red, Pastiliere, anything that is delicious!!

jffrandall1

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Thank Bob c. I don't know much about the Red Lebanese but does seem to be an interesting variant. Does anybody have Red Lebanese? Can you describe it for me from your own experience? __________________ Jeff! Buford Ga Zone-8 southeast hot humid Good ole Ga. Wish list: Starting all over so any variety now!! Maltese falcon, Izbat an naj,Maltese beauty, Rhonda de bordeaux, Socorro black, Tashkent , Encanto red, Pastiliere, anything that is delicious!!

DesertDance

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Posted 1353382060	Reply with quote #7

I'm going off the map! I'd like a delicious honey brown center surrounded by gold! Which fig is that? figlicious! Must taste rich and figgy!! I may have it, but it did not bear me figs this year. OC Unknown Rich... maybe that is the real deal!! Suzi __________________ Zone 9b, Southern California. "First year they sleep, Second year they creep, Third year they leap!" Wish List: I wish all of you happy fig collecting! My wishes have been fulfilled!

garden_whisperer

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Posted 1353382229	Reply with quote #8

I have been in contact with the people selling the red lebanese on ebay. it does grab your attention. they say they grow them in pa and are trying to determine how cold hardy it is. i think i might have to get one or three myself. __________________ Dave Zone 6b Illinois "Be the change you wish to see in the world"

c2meang

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Posted 1353385169	Reply with quote #9

Treesofjoy (Bass), in PA, was the seller of red lebanese on ebay. __________________ Peter Magnolia, AR Zone 8a Wish list: Maltese Falcon, Maltese Beauty, Galicia Negra, Col de Dame Gris, Toni's Brown Italian, LSU Red

DesertDance

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Posted 1353385319	Reply with quote #10

Who made the Red Lebanese the standard? Who? This leaves me cold! Suzi __________________ Zone 9b, Southern California. "First year they sleep, Second year they creep, Third year they leap!" Wish List: I wish all of you happy fig collecting! My wishes have been fulfilled!

paully22

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Posted 1353385425	Reply with quote #11

More common & Proven variants in many zones are VdB, Hardy Chicago, Aubique Petite, RdB, JH Adriatic. I like Hollier too. Of course, the Col de Dame series, Blk Maderia etc but they are late. BUT for my zone, most desirable variant for now is Desert King. @rcantor, I am hearing more good news on Nkesh Unknown Dark Greek. Even this evening from a collecter who have a 6ft tree & the info is that it is excellent and a good producer. There are at least 2 known strains of Red Lebanese. One from BASS and the other from Marius. Not sure whether the are the same as both originated from Lebanon.

garden_whisperer

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Posted 1353385951	Reply with quote #12

i got desert king cuttings and small trees. love em. they grow fast. a few cuttings i should say __________________ Dave Zone 6b Illinois "Be the change you wish to see in the world"

rcantor

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Posted 1353386302	Reply with quote #13

Paully22, tell your friend I want a cutting :) And how could I have forgotten Ronde de Bordeau? Suzi, No one made the Lebanese Red a standard, it's just highly sought after. Most of Bass' trees are. He only keeps varieties that taste great and are productive in his area. And only Canada and The northernmost third of the US are worse than his area :) I have to tell you the unknown OC "hearty flavor" was a great fig even at less than a year old. Can't wait for you to try one! __________________ Zone 6, MO Wish list: Galicia Negra, De La Reina - Pons, Genovese Nero - Rafed's, Sbayi, Souadi, Acciano, Any Rimada, Sodus Sicilian, any Bass, Pons or Axier fig, any great tasting fig.

DesertDance

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Posted 1353386835	Reply with quote #14

Bob, that fig you sent me,the OC unknown "hearty flavor" has grown to the moon! Sexy fig that one!! I think it just tastes rich and figgy with a nutty kick!! We shall see! Suzi __________________ Zone 9b, Southern California. "First year they sleep, Second year they creep, Third year they leap!" Wish List: I wish all of you happy fig collecting! My wishes have been fulfilled!

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it's the one that i don't have. and i don't have much. __________________ Pete Durham, NC Zone 7b "don't talk to me about naval tradition. It's nothing but rum, sodomy and the lash." - sir winston churchill "the problem with socialism is that eventually you run out of other people's money." - the baroness thatcher *** all my figs have FMV/FMD, in case you're wondering. * * and... i don't sell things. what little i have will be posted here in winter for first come first serve base to be shared. no, i'm not a socialist...***

DesertDance

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Posted 1353419723	Reply with quote #16

I wonder if LSU Gold and OC Hearty Unknown are similar. Hope I find out next year. I have both! It took 4 years for my VdB to absolutely blow me away with production and flavor! There are massive amounts of ripening figs on those trees now! We'll have pumpkin pie garnished with figs, or some salad tossed with figs for Thanksgiving! Or just some plain old Brie with figs and prosciutto as an appetizer. Suzi __________________ Zone 9b, Southern California. "First year they sleep, Second year they creep, Third year they leap!" Wish List: I wish all of you happy fig collecting! My wishes have been fulfilled!

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Posted 1353419939	Reply with quote #17

figs in thanksgiving.. i'm living in wrong state. __________________ Pete Durham, NC Zone 7b "don't talk to me about naval tradition. It's nothing but rum, sodomy and the lash." - sir winston churchill "the problem with socialism is that eventually you run out of other people's money." - the baroness thatcher *** all my figs have FMV/FMD, in case you're wondering. * * and... i don't sell things. what little i have will be posted here in winter for first come first serve base to be shared. no, i'm not a socialist...***

Forrest

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Posted 1353448568	Reply with quote #18

Yes I still have a few VdBs ripening up as well. I really am interested in late varieties here, my most desirable ones that are also wanted by others are Battaglia Col de Dame Scott's Black I really appreciate the photos everyone but me posts. I would, but I don't have a computer and post from my IPhone. Also, I only have 2 bearing age fig trees and they are common varieties, oh well. __________________ San Diego, North County Coastal

jffrandall1

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Posted 1353449447	Reply with quote #19

So many desirable variants! Which one to buy next! Hmmmmmm? __________________ Jeff! Buford Ga Zone-8 southeast hot humid Good ole Ga. Wish list: Starting all over so any variety now!! Maltese falcon, Izbat an naj,Maltese beauty, Rhonda de bordeaux, Socorro black, Tashkent , Encanto red, Pastiliere, anything that is delicious!!

garden_whisperer

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Posted 1353451033	Reply with quote #20

I want them all, well at least the ones that will grow well in zone 6 that is. after i get my operation that im working on maybe more. __________________ Dave Zone 6b Illinois "Be the change you wish to see in the world"

eden13

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Posted 1353483699	Reply with quote #21

For me is one that i don`t have. __________________ Wish List: Col de Dame Negra and Gris, Noire de Caramba, Abicou Noire, Zingarella, Sultan, Dalmatie and any Yugoslavian(Bosnian, Serbian,Croatian...). Atlanta, Georgia Eden

navillus

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Posted 1353485252	Reply with quote #22

Completely agree Eden. __________________ Charles Tampa, FL Z9b Wish List: LSU Red, LSU Thibidaux, Berbera, Ital 258, Maltese Falcon

jffrandall1

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Posted 1353515233	Reply with quote #23

I would have to agree with you also Eden. __________________ Jeff! Buford Ga Zone-8 southeast hot humid Good ole Ga. Wish list: Starting all over so any variety now!! Maltese falcon, Izbat an naj,Maltese beauty, Rhonda de bordeaux, Socorro black, Tashkent , Encanto red, Pastiliere, anything that is delicious!!

lampo

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Posted 1353543263	Reply with quote #24

Hello! I would like to say that I am not a commercial guy with or without 'Ebay', neither I am a qualified pomologist. I do figs to refresh memories of my ancestors and for the immense pleasure such hobby brings to me. Decided to let you look at the pictures of my favorite figs. There are of course many other types of figs around here, but the ones I am showing now, are for me, the very best, following the order of pictures 1, 2,... Figs have so many names that for this particular exercise, they are not that important. As you well know people like to create new names for a poor fig which already carries hundreds of them on its ID card. God knows why. Nevertheless under each picture I will attach a name! BUT it is the name I keep hearing from my people from over 70 years ago and that could be seen in many agricultural papers from the 19th century on. NO wild inventions!! Eisen and Condit saw and tasted these figs on site and wrote those same names many years ago. Only the two figs on Nr 1, are Smyrna and MUST be pollinated. The Portuguese name is Euchário or Inchário (the 'ch' is read as 'sh' and in some texts is replaced by an 'x'). There are shown two types: the black skinned with amber pulp and the white skinned with 'blood red' pulp. Both delicious either fresh or dried. Number 2 is a common fig, Violeta. Black skin and red-to-violet pulp, very sweet and syropy. Number 3 is, again a common fig, Quarteira. Particular flavor, juicy and very sweet. Given its excess syrup, it is extremely difficult to dry Number 4, also common and very well known - Braçajote preto (BB, VS, etc..). Extremely tasty and sweet. Cheers Francisco Attached Images Nr_1.jpg (330.50 KB, 162 views) Nr_2.jpg (129.16 KB, 186 views) Nr_3.jpg (233.35 KB, 166 views) Nr_4.jpg (208.34 KB, 151 views)

DesertDance

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Posted 1353545369	Reply with quote #25

Nice Figs, Lampo! Would be great to know what they are, but still, really nice! Suzi __________________ Zone 9b, Southern California. "First year they sleep, Second year they creep, Third year they leap!" Wish List: I wish all of you happy fig collecting! My wishes have been fulfilled!

Forrest

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Posted 1353545476	Reply with quote #26

Wow Francisco those look awesome. I bet more than a few people hit you up for cuttings, and I don't blame them! That Violeta... Holy smokes that is the most appealing fig I've ever laid eyes on. Very Black Madeirish. __________________ San Diego, North County Coastal

nypd5229

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__________________ Dominick Zone 6a-MA

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amazing.. i'm speechles.. __________________ Pete Durham, NC Zone 7b "don't talk to me about naval tradition. It's nothing but rum, sodomy and the lash." - sir winston churchill "the problem with socialism is that eventually you run out of other people's money." - the baroness thatcher *** all my figs have FMV/FMD, in case you're wondering. * * and... i don't sell things. what little i have will be posted here in winter for first come first serve base to be shared. no, i'm not a socialist...***

lampo

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Posted 1353553578	Reply with quote #29

Hello, Suzi, the names of these figs are on the left lower corner of each picture, just zoom it and they will appear. I would be the happiest guy in this planet, if with your help we could make the amber pulp fig to grow and fruit in your garden. It is a God's fig! You have the conditions. I promise to let you have free, ten of these cuttings. What do you think ? Forrest, Yes, effectively there are some interest and within reasonable limits I am willing to help.I agree and share your appreciation for Violeta. It is very appealing, the color combinations of skin and pulp and the juicy 'radiations' from the PC monitor make your mouth water. A professional photographer could take that fig, manipulate a series of pictures with more or les lighy,exposure,angles etc and present it for sale on those auction places where people readily strike offers to the hundreds !! Dominick, My grand dad started all fig discussion with his friends in the tavern, saying: ..fellows with figs we never sure! - they would argue, discuss, all aspects of the fruit, like it is done today, around names, flavor, tastes , colors etc.. This same fig (Violeta) is called the following additional names..'San Vicente' San Luis' and may be others depending on the regions and traditions. As far as I am concerned it was always Violeta. The plate with those black figs on your picture is marked 'Violette'. As it is written the name smells French. and they have the Violette de Bordeaux - Violette de Solliès- and probably more Violettes. From what I know of these french varieties, they are not the same fruit- but,..we are never sure ! take care Francisco

kubota1

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Posted 1353554711	Reply with quote #30

Quarteira sounds like the fig to have. Sweet and juicy! Easy on the eyes for sure! That's the one. __________________ Art- Western Pa. 6a

Grasa

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Posted 1353557642	Reply with quote #31

I would take a couple of those from Francisco ( how in the world did you get these varieties?) and I will be fine with this bowl of 'violette'.. how delicious they may be.... __________________ Grasa Seattle, WA

Forrest

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Posted 1353561225	Reply with quote #32

Is it strange that feel inspired by a picture of fruit? Perhaps, but I do. I don't know how my life will unfold, but I know what I want and it is just to live simply, somewhere beautiful and have some fruit trees. And if one of those is the Violeta fig, that's just perfect. And if another is Olho Da Vinha, all the better. And if another is Quarteira... You get the idea :) I went back and looked at your posts in the "ripening order" topic, Lampo, and think you should create a coffee table picture book about fig varieties! Your pics are that enticing, and it's evident how much you enjoy cultivating figs. I wonder if you have a website about your fig trees like my friend in Barcelona Jordi Font? His is http://www.galgoni.com/ Dominick, that's a very nice bowl of Violette de Sollies __________________ San Diego, North County Coastal

paully22

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Posted 1353562415	Reply with quote #33

@Lampo -- those figs are delicious looking. Thanks for posting pictures.

garden_whisperer

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Posted 1353565864	Reply with quote #34

I am speechless. If perfection could grow on a tree I think we may have come as close as possible to seeing it. But I yet a pup in the fig world and still learning there are more options out there for my climate than I ever imagined. Insperation by a pic of fruit indeed. __________________ Dave Zone 6b Illinois "Be the change you wish to see in the world"

lampo

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Posted 1353601045	Reply with quote #35

Hi, Thank you very much for your appreciation and kind words. kubota1 - I agree with your comment. 'Quarteira' figs were the top preference of my old grand mother. Even today a good deal of people talk and look for them. In a way they are becoming rare and forgotten! It will be a good tree in any collection. Grasa - My dear, help yourself! All these varieties come from the Algarve/Portugal. I agree with your comments for the 'Violeta' figs They are a beauty and carry an unfforgetable flavor ! One day you shall taste them. You see, people these days do not bother with such figs any more. Old and genuine names mean nothing ! as the talk goes, figs are either green or black and the bigger the better. New farms of the modern hibrid 'big size' and watery brebas are taking the old lands where the traditional fruits were cultivated. Forrest -Yes I am in full agreement with what you say and I feel it as well . The figs you mention are realy first class (at least for my taste) .Have you ever considered to grow a couple of pots with caprifigs in your area ? I am under the impression that people run away from this extraordinary fruit. My grand parents used to say that the caprifig is to all other figs, what the minister is for his congregation--beeing the instrument to bring the blessing from the Heavens to the ones in need! I think he was right. paully22 - Thank you paully. I agree they are in fact deliciously looking and even more delicious when one has the chance to grab a dozen of properly ripe figs (these or other) early morning just after sunrise, naturaly cooled, still with a couple of light dew tears on its skin... This is my prefered timing to eat fresh figs ! garden_whisperer - Thank you for your appreciation and kind comments All the Best Francisco

JoAnn749

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Posted 1353603875	Reply with quote #36

After reading these comments I have come to the conclusion that figs bring out the romantics! I don't know what my most desirable fig is. Up to Jan of this year I knew there were purple, green, mission, dried and fig newtons! Just like Pete, it's the one I don't have and I don't have much. __________________ Jo-Ann DFW TX, Zone 7b-8a Wish List: Black Madeira,, Kathleen's Black, Malta Black, Marseille VS Black, White Paradisio, LSU Scott's Black, Conadria, White Trianna, Marttineca Rimada, Excel, Peter's Honey, Bebera Preta (Abebereira), Strawberry Verte

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Posted 1353605609	Reply with quote #37

Francisco, isn't Lampo also a name of a fig? I will send you a PM in Portuguese, would that be OK? __________________ Grasa Seattle, WA

Pattee

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Posted 1353622763	Reply with quote #38

I'm over the moon for the looks of these figs! Anything for me that has that red/purple interior is my desire ! Although I am growing others named and unnamed ,light or dark, it will be a few years before a lot of my trees have great fruit ! __________________ 7a & 9b ►I assume all my figs carry FMV ◄ Seeking : Italian 376,395 , Galicia Negra, Negretta,UNK Pastilliere ,Pananas Purple, Malta Blk+purple/red, Italian + Calabrian UNK's , Catanzaro, Malone, Sucrette(Baud) "We may have our private opinions but why should they be a bar to the meeting of hearts?" - Gandhi

lampo

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Posted 1353626544	Reply with quote #39

JoAnn749 - I understand very well what you mean. But this is just occasional. Sooner than later more new, unknown figs will show up, nicer, better. tastier and then, again one shall be asking the same questions. Let´s start with a few and as soon as you grab more knowledge and confidence expand your garden. Grasa - Yes. It is the name given to the breba from the LAMPEIRA PRETA or LAMPEIRA NEGRA, the most widespread San Pedro fig type in Portugal.I would love to receive a PM in portuguese and promise to respond alike. Hope the moderator sees no problem with it. Pattee - I do as well.When making an assessment of a fig I tend to put far more value on color contrast and the blood red pulps, violets etc go immediately to the top. Second always comes the aspect of the fruit cavity, how full they are ..syropy? how much?etc. The wild fig forces these contrasts and definitely makes figs to show juicy and full pulps. Cheers

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Posted 1353628657	Reply with quote #40

Lampo, the Quarteira looks like it's fig jam inside a green skin, almost like a stuffed baked potatoe but done with a fig. __________________ Canada Zone 6B

lampo

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Posted 1353629679	Reply with quote #41

Chivas, yes it is a very sweet and juicy fig.So much that even in the heat of long Summer sunny days, it shall not dry ! Frabcisco

Pattee

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While I am relatively new to figs and collecting , my first instinct was to just collect as many different varieties I could find locally. Since I have read so much more here on this forum about the varieties , tastes and traits , I am much more concerned with the sweetness/taste . A lot of the dark interiors, I have seen here in pictures do have that deep, sweet , jammy, rich flavor . As my trees get older and the fruits come into their own , local growing conditions etc. , I know the tastes of the fruits will change. It will be interesting to see how the different varieties , I have bought and been gifted , dark and light, named and unnamed , hold up through the years. __________________ 7a & 9b ►I assume all my figs carry FMV ◄ Seeking : Italian 376,395 , Galicia Negra, Negretta,UNK Pastilliere ,Pananas Purple, Malta Blk+purple/red, Italian + Calabrian UNK's , Catanzaro, Malone, Sucrette(Baud) "We may have our private opinions but why should they be a bar to the meeting of hearts?" - Gandhi

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Posted 1353632714	Reply with quote #43

Hi Francisco, I don't really need a caprifig here, as the wasp is all over my town. I love a fig called Zidi, I know you do as well. Perhaps pollination would be better with a caprifig... that is something I will delve into on my next piece of property, which will be much larger and a few miles inland, for more sun and heat. I live in southwest California, right by the Mexican border and right by the ocean. I probably live too close to the sea for some figs, but for the most part It's excellent climate. Very Mediterranean. But I often feel like id love to live in southern Europe, where my parents are from. Tell me about your land in Portugal. How many trees do you care for? PS: Happy Thanksgiving to everyone! __________________ San Diego, North County Coastal

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Posted 1353654272	Reply with quote #44

Rond de Bordeaux was my favourit by its look even when I did not have it. Now that I have it, I like it for its taste and that it is not late ripening even in my Zone 5a. __________________ Ottawan-Z5a, Canada

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when i first saw and read about RdB, it didn't do much for me. i was told that it might have slightly open eye. i was told that it's not that different from VdB. so i put off getting one. then suddenly RdB is getting very popular. everyone wanted one. so i decided to try to get some cuttings. they are still growing and i won't be able to taste them till 2013 or 2014. some of the new picutures coming on the forum is just amazing. can't wait till i get to taste one. __________________ Pete Durham, NC Zone 7b "don't talk to me about naval tradition. It's nothing but rum, sodomy and the lash." - sir winston churchill "the problem with socialism is that eventually you run out of other people's money." - the baroness thatcher *** all my figs have FMV/FMD, in case you're wondering. * * and... i don't sell things. what little i have will be posted here in winter for first come first serve base to be shared. no, i'm not a socialist...***

lampo

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Posted 1353722294	Reply with quote #46

Hello Forrester I have been dreaming of a thread like yours coming from America.It makes me extremely happy,to know that you have the little wasps by hand.Fantastic! So you shall be able to pollinate ALL your figs..smyrna and common alike, plus some of the San Pedro summer crop. Have you spotted the wild figtrees ? If that is ok with you I would very much appreciate to look into a couple of pictures. Iam preparing pics of my capri's to send. Now, the mamme crop (winter) is in full development and hopefuly full of larvae.In a month time if we continue to have rain, they will change color from green to yellowish or brown/violet depending on the variety These figs can be affected by abnormal unexpected climatic changes. Be aware of that Have you any smyrna varieties ? Tha Zidi is a fantastic ground for your experiments with the wasp...even to see the living pollinator to find its way into the tight and still green ostiole. I have not the Zidi yet but in turn have its sligthly bigger brother, purple/black (Inchario), pyriform and with amber juicy pulp, the best in this district. To your question about my place, I must say that you may find it very quickly going to Google earth and asking the whereabouts of Algarve, the southern province of Portugal It is a small sort of rectangle 150x40 KM facing south. The northern border is a long chain of mountains average 2700 ft and then sloping downsouth to the coast- all orchards for all Med fruit develop on those slopes. I have about 20 trees in pots and ground but bringging in more everyyear. Iam much interested now to get cuttings from North African countries, as well as from Turkey. My trees are still too young for cuttings. Of the varieties shown I could probably get some Black smyrna (Inchario) and Quarteira. Violeta for next season, same for the Violette de Solliès, but this one can be found easily in the US My understanding is that some girls in this forum (in California) would welcome Smyrna figs, but have problems to get the caprifig. As I have already promised to Suzi I can provide some Inchario cuttings () and you could probably help with the caprifigs. What do you think ? Cheers Francisco () Our laws now require an inspector from the Agric.agency to witness the operation of collecting cuttings from the mother tree, prior to issuing a certificate. Ok, I can handle that. What I do not know is what is needed for Customs acceptance on arrival on that particular State.

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francisco by US law, importing plant/plant parts require import license. this also require imported plant/plant parts to be quarantined for certain number of period. i think it's 2 yrs for the fig, i might be wrong. during that time, the plant/plant part can not be used for propagation, and can not be moved from quarantine area. also requires inspection by agency that governs this. i just finished reading about this on following link. http://figs4funforum.websitetoolbox.com/post/ImportingExporting-plant-material-6095938 however, being able to someday enjoy kind of figs that you have might encourage some people to go through this process. __________________ Pete Durham, NC Zone 7b "don't talk to me about naval tradition. It's nothing but rum, sodomy and the lash." - sir winston churchill "the problem with socialism is that eventually you run out of other people's money." - the baroness thatcher *** all my figs have FMV/FMD, in case you're wondering. * * and... i don't sell things. what little i have will be posted here in winter for first come first serve base to be shared. no, i'm not a socialist...***

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Posted 1353731173	Reply with quote #48

Ola Francisco, thanks for the nice words. I googled Algarve, and wow do you have some beautiful beaches there! http://www.bookableholidays.com/images/country/portugal/algarve/all/sheltered-beaches.jpg Very unusual formations... Anyway, Suzi can get a caprifig at Exotica Nursery in Vista. Maybe I should private message her about that, I think I will. Yes I am glad to be able to grow any fig, I do enjoy the crunchy seeds as well. Zidi is awesome, and A well pollinated Panachee is really an outstanding experience, too, even though it is a common fig, it's much better when the wasp has paid a visit. I admit not have any more experience with Zidi type figs. They tend to be larger in size, and for my mild climate, larger figs seem to need more heat to ripen well so i dont plant them. Also, they are hard to obtain... Common figs are called "common" for a reason! In Turkey they only value Smyrna types, and esteem common figs about as highly as Americans do crabapples, which is to say, not worth eating. But if you are into Turkish figs, do seek out the most famous and best of the bunch, the Black Bursa. Supposed to be the best in the world, someday I hope to judge for myself. I think we all would. I have more to say but risk overcooking my dinner. I'll post again tomorrow, Boa Noite! (My father lives in Brazil) Hey Pete, those Ronde Pics do look really nice huh? It's the pics that make the whole Internet fig world turn. Maltese and galicia look pretty appealing too. I can't wait until they are easy to get in 5 years or so. __________________ San Diego, North County Coastal

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Posted 1353732413	Reply with quote #49

forrest, RdB should be readily available sooner than 5 yrs. there will be more members having the trees and more members sharing their cuttings soon. my RdB should be ready for limited cuttings to be shared in about 2 yrs or sooner. freely shared with me, and i'll share it freely with others. i like simple system :) __________________ Pete Durham, NC Zone 7b "don't talk to me about naval tradition. It's nothing but rum, sodomy and the lash." - sir winston churchill "the problem with socialism is that eventually you run out of other people's money." - the baroness thatcher *** all my figs have FMV/FMD, in case you're wondering. * * and... i don't sell things. what little i have will be posted here in winter for first come first serve base to be shared. no, i'm not a socialist...***

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Posted 1353733372	Reply with quote #50

Francisco, Beautiful figs and photos. __________________ Steve Houston, TX Zone 8b Wish List: Zingarella

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