kassoum
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I have planted this fig in my home garden the last Autumn in its permanent [lace in the ground(the bucket is butomless), not long time ago it was thriving and growing happily with new buds and leaves. its been a month since we have heat waves here in my land, although I water it very frequently each 3 days but it seems like something bad is happening to it, I am not sure if this is the cause of excess water or maybe lack of it or it is because of the heat and the sun burns. maybe someone have a good advise for saving this tree. best regards, sami
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Hard to give advice when I don't know where you are? I put my location in my signature below. Figs are fairly drought tolerant, although they do like water. In ground, hot and sunny it would be hard to over water. I live in Michigan and I water more often than 3 days, sometimes daily if it is hot and sunny. It has not rained here in 3 weeks, the ground is very dry. i water daily until the next rain at least. The discoloration is concerning. If it has been there awhile, sunburn is unlikely. It looks like herbicide damage. Another possibility is aphids. Any bugs on the underside of the leaves? Did you spray anything on it? It is somewhat normal for them to droop in very hot sun. As long as they recover by morning all is well. In this situation with the discoloration it is something else. It does look like over watering too, with light colored to yellow leaves, but in ground hard to believe, unless it's a low spot and when it rains water pools there, then it could be. They like to be moist as long as the soil is well draining. Have you fed it?
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Here in Phoenix, Az it has been in the triple digits like 115° average. I have been watering twice a day 6am/4pm with a light watering mostly over the leaves and branches. I deep water with a good soaking at least twice a week. Finally, the sun had turned all of the leaves brown on my 2 year old rdb. I took off all of the brown leaves, it now has new buds all over. As a precaution the pot was moved to receive the eastern sun only,which is about 6 hours. Hope this helps you.
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I live in Israel, the temperature outside reached today 102 Fahrenheit. Drew, you have raised very important questions ! the possibility of having been sprayed by insecticide is possible too, maybe my father have done that accidentally , now I need to ask him about that. but also the possibility of heat burns can be true. I think am going to continue watering it, also I will wrap it with a shadow net to prevent a large portion of the sun reaching it. we will see , it hard for me to get an right answer now
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it is in a pot or in ground ? if the pot is too small and soil is turning hot under strong sunshine, then the roots will get cooked. you'd better move it to bigger pots or bury the pots in the earth.
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Sami is in Isreal. Sami, your tree is suffering from heat stress in that tiny pot. I recommend repotting it now in a much larger pot or in the ground. I would do this late at night or early in the wee hours and water every day until the tree is happy again. Please note, when you repot figs in Summer, the leaves may yellow and fall off. But they will grow right back in a few days.
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kassoum
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Originally Posted by snaglpus Sami is in Isreal. Sami, your tree is suffering from heat stress in that tiny pot. I recommend repotting it now in a much larger pot or in the ground. I would do this late at night or early in the wee hours and water every day until the tree is happy again. Please note, when you repot figs in Summer, the leaves may yellow and fall off. But they will grow right back in a few days.
the Fig planted in the ground , the pot has no bottom ! it is for holding as much water close to the stem.
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I would remove the bucket and put at least 6" of mulch around the base for about two feed radius, in order to trap moisture and water at least every other day if not daily during 100F days. This tree is definitely heat stressed and if the roots are too shallow and trapped within the walls of your bucket they might be baking.
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OK more info, location helps. Can you buy shade cloth? To keep it cooler I would install shade cloth to partially block sun (and direct heat). And what Sas says about mulch is very true. Use any organic material you can find. Bark, wood chips, leaves, straw, pine straw, even compost. I like to use compost, then cover with straw, bark, or some other organic material.
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If you're not root bound your feeder roots are probably well outside the pots circumference,are you watering the pot only?You might want to think about irrigating 12"-18" away from the outside of the pot.
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Originally Posted by drew51 OK more info, location helps. Can you buy shade cloth? To keep it cooler I would install shade cloth to partially block sun (and direct heat). And what Sas says about mulch is very true. Use any organic material you can find. Bark, wood chips, leaves, straw, pine straw, even compost. I like to use compost, then cover with straw, bark, or some other organic material.
Thanks drew,
A shade cloth would be a great idea, I will install it tomorrow before sunset when it cool dawn so I can work without sweating :)
Pine straw is an excellent idea too, I have plenty of it in the forest next to my house. Ahhrrr our summer here burns every thing up. I think that also older trees tolerate the heat much better than the young ones.
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Tree looks fine in relation to the heat wave here and the fact that its potted.
You can put in shade.
Btw most my potted trees look like that.
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BTW what variety is this? Leafs are interesting.
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Hi elin The tree is not potted as I stated before , the picture is misleading . the pot has no bottom! it holds the water pretty good around the trunk. these tree I got from Bassem from treesOfJoy in an exchange deal before 2 years . surprisingly I have another 2 trees from the same variety planted away from this one and they are doing real good , strong and vigorous . tomorrow I will see if I can show you some pictures of them.
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My Pete's Honey fig tree is doing the same thing: yellow falling/fallen leaves and dried up new figs. It's been in the ground for over a year. Last Monday the temps went up to around 110 degrees here and stayed high for several days. More of this to come in the months ahead. I'm thinking of digging it up, re-potting it, and moving it to a shady afternoon spot. I'm watering almost daily and you can see the other younger fig trees near by are fine and fruiting. I've left the dead wildflowers at the base which have gone to seed to provide some mulch/protection.
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Mara you are a true renegade gardener.
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Originally Posted by
kassoum I have planted this fig in my home garden the last Autumn in its permanent [lace in the ground(the bucket is butomless), not long time ago it was thriving and growing happily with new buds and leaves. its been a month since we have heat waves here in my land, although I water it very frequently each 3 days but it seems like something bad is happening to it, I am not sure if this is the cause of excess water or maybe lack of it or it is because of the heat and the sun burns.
maybe someone have a good advise for saving this tree.
best regards, sami
If this tree were mine and I decided not to remove the bucket, I would fill bucket with soil to within 3 inches of rim and top off with wood chips or mulch. I would then mulch outside the bucket up to the rim and 2 to 3 feet out.
Also water deeply with open end hose running 1/4 to 3/8 inch stream overnight.
Your tree will love you forever.
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Originally Posted by elin Mara you are a true renegade gardener.
Thanks!
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Hi Sami, Looks to me like it may have dried out a bit because of the heat wave you mentioned. The ground does appear to be dry around it. I agree with the others who recommended using mulch inside the bucket and a little around it (I would keep mulch away and not too deep around the tree). This should keep the top layer moist even if you forgot to water promptly. Also, I would recommend a small moat just outside the bucket to keep the water from running too far btw, I have been meaning to write you to thank you for the excellent Khurtmani cuttings. It's hard to believe that in only 12 weeks, one of them is over 3 feet tall and carrying a bunch of figs on it. The second cutting was also quite successful but smaller (the hole I dug was a smaller for the smaller tree). This amazing tree is a testimony to t he source (you know what I mean). Attached are pictures of both trees. As you can see, I have wood chips around both to avoid drying out in case I forget to water them, although they get a personal visit from me daily :) I cant wait till the figs mature Simon
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Originally Posted by Jerry_M Also water deeply with open end hose running 1/4 to 3/8 inch stream overnight. Your tree will love you forever.
I think you're right about the long, slow stream of water soak. I was digging around in the other bed and found the moisture from my hand soaking only went down about four to five inches. Below that was bone dry. My adobe clay soil easily gets over saturated so I have been worried about over watering, but that wasn't the case at all. Perhaps being sandwiched between a cement sidewalk and a paved street bakes the moisture out of the soil faster?
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kassoum
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SimonS Hi Sami,
Looks to me like it may have dried out a bit because of the heat wave you mentioned. The ground does appear to be dry around it. I agree with the others who recommended using mulch inside the bucket and a little around it (I would keep mulch away and not too deep around the tree). This should keep the top layer moist even if you forgot to water promptly. Also, I would recommend a small moat just outside the bucket to keep the water from running too far
btw, I have been meaning to write you to thank you for the excellent Khurtmani cuttings. It's hard to believe that in only 12 weeks, one of them is over 3 feet tall and carrying a bunch of figs on it. The second cutting was also quite successful but smaller (the hole I dug was a smaller for the smaller tree). This amazing tree is a testimony to t he source (you know what I mean). Attached are pictures of both trees. As you can see, I have wood chips around both to avoid drying out in case I forget to water them, although they get a personal visit from me daily :)
I cant wait till the figs mature
Simon
Hi simon, Amazing pictures for the Khortmani :) it shows how much you really care about it. thanks for the good advises, I have mulched the tree and placed a shadow net over it m now i am waiting for signs of recovering. what I noticed about figs is that each tree has its own developing pace, some are growing slow and weak and some are just like a rocket :) here below an example for another fig (the same variety + age+ planting date ) tree that is identical with the first that I have posted above, but this one is doing very good, all the conditions around are the same for two , notice the big difference: amazing !
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