bigfig
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Hello everyone, everything was going smooth till took rooted cuttings out of chamber,and went under lights .All the leaves(most) curled and fell off in matter of hours,and the tips are turning brown .I have light set at about 12 inches away .I am not sure how long they should be in the chamber ,but they been in for about 3 weeks and roots are crazy coming out of every hole and over the top outta the the cups
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brianm
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You roasted your trees. They need to be acclimated to the dryer air, then after that you can hit them with lights. They should be ok but in my opinion i would put them back in and start the process over.start decreasing humanity.
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I agree with brianm. I did the same thing with my first batch of cuttings. Going from the cozy humid environment of the bins to dry air is a big shock to the young tree. It's best to transition them slowly by cracking the lid open on the bins a little bit more each day. Over the course of a week or so you can move them out into dry room air.
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FiggyFrank
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Yep, too much shock. I put the pots in big totes with a clear cover on top, then the fluorescent light an inch away from the cover.
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I admit that I have done this too many times. I just did it again last week to three or four trees. That's the hardest part for me: Going from the humidity bin to dry air. I understand that the idea is to adjust the plant from high humidity to lower humidity over the course of about a week. It is not as easy as it sounds. If you are using bins, you can open a crack in the lid. Start with a tiny crack and gradually open wider each day until the bin is uncovered. I would use a humidity meter in at least one of the bins to get an idea of how much humidity the open lid was letting out. A small opening can let out a lot of humidity. I don't think the lights were too bright and were probably not to blame. I think the problem was too dry too soon. I think those lights would be fine as long as moisture and temperature were controlled properly. But the lights probably make it hotter and drier than it needs to be. Some of my cuttings come back after getting post-humidity shock, but not all of them make it. I cut off the dead leaves to prevent further desiccation. Also, if it is a tip cutting, the tip will often look shriveled up and wrinkled like a prune. If so, I'll cut it back to the next good node. I would agree with Brian that they should go back in the bin until showing some signs of recovery. If I have already potted them into soil, I will not put them back in the bin for fear of gnats. In that case, I just keep them in the shade and mist them frequently while keeping the soil damp. I put my most recent batch of cuttings from rooting in coir directly into 1 gallon pots with soil outdoors. If that goes well, I can skip the whole humidity chamber and adjustment period.
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At that early stage in the process the plants need to be weaned off of the humidity in gradual steps, not all at once.
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I agree with Joe, I'm not an expert, what I do as soon as I see green growth I put them under lights. Good luck. Vito
bigfig
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Thanks looks like i was having 99% success rate till this step ,Not to bad for first timer. have about 50 in chambers and more than that in coir and moss.so i have my work cut out .And still looking for more:-) Wife thinks i went nuts..lol
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My cuttings are under the light from the beginning and I keep the top of the totes cracked open from the beginning and open them quite frequently along the way from the time that I start the cutting until I see roots and don't have a problem taking them out of the humidity and potting them up to the one gallon pots I remember the first time I did cuttings I babied them way too much and it was a nightmare getting them used to being out of the humidity chamber "fools luck I suppose"
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I roasted mine too. But cuttings are fine. Especially with the awsome roots system no worries. Nice work on rooting them. This is common
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I bring them out a while, let the leaves droop a bit, then put them back in the chamber, and every day I leave them out a little longer, in about a week you could leave them out for good. Make sure you water the cups well when you put them out, the strong roots and dry environment will suck the moisture out of the cup real quick.
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I keep a second "transitional tub " where I crack the lid open a little more each day. I then put them out and check them at night. If they did well they stay out. Don't rush this stage. I have rushed in the past and found that even though they lose their leaves, they should come back. I agree, cut off the bad stuff, and new stuff will come.
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I agree with coop951, i gradually remove the lid about 1/4" a day over a 1-2 week period with periodic misting.
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