Not Grise de S' Jean - what fig do i have?

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Jsacadura

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Posted 1475780062 · Edited	Reply with quote #1

Grise de S' Jean - Not! I received this variety as cuttings from a friend that bought them in a French nursery (Cochet Frederic). They were probably labeled wrong. Any suggestions on what variety do i have? Noire de Barbentane, perhaps? Although they seem a bit small for that (35-40gr)... A few photos of ripe figs. They were available in late August but the one's ripening now are much better - whatever it is. This fig keeps on coming through August, September and into October. __________________ Jaime - Zone 9b - near Caldas da Rainha - Portugal Wish List: São Luís, Valamandil, Sofeno Tradicional, Cótio, Cavaleiro, Belmandil, Coll de Dame de Ciutat, Strawberry Verte, Marabout, Sihagi.

haslamhulme

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Posted 1475782874	Reply with quote #2

Jamie,if it is a mislabelled tree,which it seems to be-nothing Grise about this one-at least it's pronably one of the dark figs they sell so it narrows your likely candidates!.Based on the size and appearance and going by their description maybe Sultane?,whatever it is it looks like a good fig and hopefully one you don't already have? __________________ Haroon,Birmingham UK,Europe,USDA zone 8 Growing:B.Turkey,Jerusalem,V.Dauphine,Pd.Dalmatie W.Adriatic, RDB,Goute D'or,W.Marsailles,Bavarian Violet,Ali Pasha,Falls Gold, Alma,W.Broggioto,Conadria,G.Ischia,Celeste,a dozen unknowns Deceased:Mission( received new cuttings from a generous member today,thank you!)

Timo

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Posted 1475786348	Reply with quote #3

Sultane could be a good candidate. Do you have pictures of the leaves?

Figgysid1

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Posted 1475787545	Reply with quote #4

Here are leaf pics of my Sultane. The fruit look very similar, small, dark, red interior. My tree is one year old. Attached Images IMG_20161006_105351.jpg (300.31 KB, 8 views) __________________ (Zone 12a) Big Island, Hawaii, 2,400 ft elevation, Fern Forest. Avg. July High 77,Avg.Jan.Low 56 Precipitation days 290, annual rainfall 201.80 inches.

Jsacadura

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Posted 1475790502 · Edited	Reply with quote #5

Thanks for your suggestions, Sultane could be a good candidate, but it seems the leaves of my tree are different. I bought a Sultane from a different nursery and i don't think the leaves have the same pattern. Here's the photos of my grafted "Grise de S'Jean" with young figs - It's the grafted branch in the center of the first and fourth photos. They are not very good photos to see the leaf pattern but there are lots of one lobed leaves that my nursery bought Sultane doesn't have. I included also a couple of photos of a rooted cutting in a pot. I will try to get better leaf pattern photos to see if someone can help me identify it... __________________ Jaime - Zone 9b - near Caldas da Rainha - Portugal Wish List: São Luís, Valamandil, Sofeno Tradicional, Cótio, Cavaleiro, Belmandil, Coll de Dame de Ciutat, Strawberry Verte, Marabout, Sihagi.

Goldeneye

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Jsacadura

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Posted 1475792083	Reply with quote #7

Thanks, Marc. It sure is the most likely candidate and i have learned the hard way that the leaf pattern sometimes is not definitive. Oh, well. That means i have to go hunting for the real Grise de S' Jean again (one of my first list choices that i thought i had already secured) It's the only french variety that i traded that doesn't come from Pierre Baud's nursery and it turns out it's not the right one. Probably just a coincidence - or not! That's why Baud's nursery earned the reputation it has... __________________ Jaime - Zone 9b - near Caldas da Rainha - Portugal Wish List: São Luís, Valamandil, Sofeno Tradicional, Cótio, Cavaleiro, Belmandil, Coll de Dame de Ciutat, Strawberry Verte, Marabout, Sihagi.

haslamhulme

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Posted 1475792787	Reply with quote #8

These guys have Gris St.Jean,they were recommended to me but I haven't used them yet,at EUR 6.90 it's not much of a financial risk though: http://www.senteursduquercy.com/fruitiers-figuier-arbousier-grenadier/1739-ficus-carica-grise-de-saint-jean-figuier.html __________________ Haroon,Birmingham UK,Europe,USDA zone 8 Growing:B.Turkey,Jerusalem,V.Dauphine,Pd.Dalmatie W.Adriatic, RDB,Goute D'or,W.Marsailles,Bavarian Violet,Ali Pasha,Falls Gold, Alma,W.Broggioto,Conadria,G.Ischia,Celeste,a dozen unknowns Deceased:Mission( received new cuttings from a generous member today,thank you!)

rayrose

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Posted 1475797033 · Edited	Reply with quote #9

http://www.figuiers.com/plants-de-figuiers.html#BourjassotteNoire This is a good nursery also. That's not Barbentane. The interior is much darker than your pics. I just ate one yesterday. __________________ Ray zone 8 Columbia, SC

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