snaglpus
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For 2 years now, I've been contemplating telling this story. Today, I think its safe to tell it....here goes! Two summers ago, I was out scouting neighborhoods for fig trees. I was in an old part of Charlotte where there were a lot of 1960 bungalows. As I passed this old school building I noticed this large beautiful fig tree in the back of someone’s yard. This tree looks to be at least 20 years old! It was loaded with figs. I knocked on the door and nobody was home. The next day, different time, I came back. I knocked and this elderly man answered the door. I asked about the fig tree and he spoke with broken English saying that the tree came from Sicily, his home town. He said the figs were just a black fig that grows wild there. He said his name was Emilio. I asked for some cuttings and he said to come back Saturday. He said today was not a good day.
One week ago to the day, I came back. Man I was excited! I was about to get some Italian cuttings from Sicily! As I walked up to the house, I noticed it looked like there was a party at Emilio’s house. The street was filled with cars so I parked behind the house at the school. I knocked on the door with pruning shears in hand and no answer. There was a sign on the door but I could not read the language. I assumed it meant to come around the back. So, I did. When I got around the back I notice folks were standing and talking and drink beer. Some were speaking a language I did not understand. Most were in their 50s, 60s and some looked younger. They waved at me and kept talking. I took a beer from the cooler and started asking for Emilio. The people looked at me weird and just walked away. So, I took a swig of my beer threw it in the trash and walked over in the yard where the fig tree was and started popping of a few cuttings. Then I heard someone yelled at me, “HEY STOP YOU” “WHAT YOU DO TO MY FIG”! STOP! STOP! I SAY!!!
I took about 10 cuttings and glanced behind me and saw 4 men running toward me. One guy started yelling at me in some language as he’s running towards me. I finish my 10th cutting when they reached me.
I just smilled and said, “Emilio told me to come back today and to get some cuttings”. "Where is he?" "I want to thank him for the cuttings."
One guy said, “man are you crazy?”
I said: “No, Emilio and I talked last week and he told me to come back today and to get as many cuttings as I want.”
Then another guy said, “Emilio died 3 days ago” . “Today, is his birthday and we are celebrating his life and death.” “ Drop the cuttings and get out of here now!”
With egg on my face, I said: “Wow!" "I am so sorry!" "I did not know that." "Guys, I’m really sorry for your loss. I think Emilio would want me to have these cuttings ." "Yes?"
Another guy said, “I don’t think so”. “This tree is my grandmother’s fig tree in Sicily, it is a special fig.” We do not know you! You cannot have any of these cuttings!
Then he drops his beer and grabbed me from the side. Another guy took a swing at me, then all four jumped in. As they began to rain blows on me, I realized I had to get out of there quick. I felt like Neo in the Matrix! I spun around, ducked down and broke free from them. It all happened so fast! Man I took off running like OJ Simpson jumping over luggage in the airport! With a fist full of cuttings in my left hand, I took off headed for the fence. I heard one of them say: “GET HIM!!!” They took off after me but I was faster than them. As I got closer to the fence I realize the fence was an old rusty 2 footer and I kept running and just hurdled the fence in full stride! Cans of beer were whizzing by my head and one did him me on the shoulder but I was gone! They could not keep up! I laughed and kept running. My truck was unlocked. I opened the door, tossed the cuttings in the passenger seat and took off down the street burning rubber looking in my rearview mirror to see if I was followed. I wasn’t. I made it home safe and sound. When I got home, my wife looked at me.
She said: “where have you been?”
I said: “getting fig cuttings”.
She kissed me and said, “ yuck! you smell like beer!” Who’s tree have you been raiding this time and what happened?
I said, “I don’t know…some guy named Emilio. “ I was attacked by his friend when I started taking a few cuttings and then they tried to jump me”
She said, “If he told you, you could have some then why did they jump you?
I said, “old man Emilio told me 7 days ago to come today and get my cuttings”. “What I didn’t know was he died 3 days ago!” “I went to get the cuttings at the same time they were having a party in his honor because today was his birthday party.“ “His friends didn’t know me and they certainly did not want to give up any of Emilio’s fig cuttings!” “So, his friends tried to jump me but I ran and go away!” “They threw cans of beer at me as I was running.” “That’s how I got wet.” “One did hit me on the shoulder but it didn’t hurt.” “Heck, I didn’t know the old man died”! “I was looking for him and when I did not see him, I proceeded to get my fig cuttings.” “That’s when his friends tried to jump me”. “But I did get my cuttings!” Hehehe!
She said…”one day, you’re going to get shot!” “You’re one crazy man Dennis Johnson!” “One day, you’re going to be on the 6 o’clock news!” "One day!"
I just smiled and said, “a crazy man with fresh fig cuttings!” Each cutting rooted and is growing fine. I think I should name the trees Emilio in his honor. I think the fig is Valle Negra...but I could be wrong.
__________________ Dennis Charlotte, North Carolina/Zone 8a
rafaelissimmo
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What a wild story. U need to be careful!
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Rewton
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Dennis, very entertaining to read over my lunch hour. Running hurdles in high school have helped you get out of more than one jam!
__________________ Steve MD zone 7a
DesertDance
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That is a wild and crazy story! Love it! Thanks for posting!! Suzi
__________________ Zone 9b, Southern California. "First year they sleep, Second year they creep, Third year they leap!" Wish List: I wish all of you happy fig collecting! My wishes have been fulfilled!
rcantor
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Dennis, you're the MAN! Too bad about Emilio, you two probably would have become friends and friends with his friends. And they each would have given you cuttings from their own special fig tree. But this makes you the Indiana Jones of the fig world.
__________________ Zone 6, MO Wish list: Galicia Negra, De La Reina - Pons, Genovese Nero - Rafed's, Sbayi, Souadi, Acciano, Any Rimada, Sodus Sicilian, any Bass, Pons or Axier fig, any great tasting fig.
cyberfarmer
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Never go in against a Sicilian when figs are on the line!
__________________Paul the Fig Tree Destroyer in Fallbrook, CA (Zone 10A )
FiggieFive_0
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For the love of figs, I tell you! Did you wake up the next morning to find a horse head in your bed? Great story, Dennis!
__________________ Nate Faith, Family, Friends, and Figs (not necessarily in that order).
snaglpus
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May Emilo rest in peace! It's been 2 years since that happened. For days, I was looking over my shoulder and checking my rear view mirror. I don't anymore. At the time of the incident, I really didn't have time to think. I just got out of there! Looking back now, I think its kinda funny.....
__________________ Dennis Charlotte, North Carolina/Zone 8a
susieqz
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that is an absolutely wonderful story. thank you.
__________________ susie wish list: nothing. i can't grow cuttings . right now, i have 6 trees showing no signs of fmv. i'd like to keep it that way' i was told that if i couldn't deal with fmv, i should grow peaches, so i got a peach tree to live with my clean figs.
greg88
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God rest his soul. Crazy story indeed. But you did not finish the rest of the story. Did the cuttings root? do you now have a tree(s) and figs from Emilio?
__________________ Greg North West Arkanasas Zone 6b Wish list: any SPECTACULAR cold hardy figs, and/or perhaps a Niagra Bl., Laradek EBT, Kathleen's Bl, Hunt, a great UNK or anything anyone wants me to have???
eboone
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Great story, Dennis! Isn't Valle Negra from northern Italy?
__________________ Ed Zone 6A - Southwest PA --------------------------- Short wish list: CDDG, LSU Red, Dark Greek (Navid), Col Littman's Black Cross . And any cold hardy early fig.
ChillyNPhilly
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Hey Dennis, great story! BUT WHAT ABOUT THOSE CUTTINGS????!
__________________ Donna
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Hershell
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For the love of figs. Great story and in his honor.
__________________ Hershell Zone 8. Ray City, Ga.
snaglpus
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yes. the leaf pattern is that of Aubique Petite. I gave some trees away and about 4 or 5 somewhere. I repotted one over the weekend. I need to post some leaf patterns. i really don't know what the tree is. I've been to Italy once in my life and never to Sicily.
__________________ Dennis Charlotte, North Carolina/Zone 8a
needaclone
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Dennis, that's a hoot! How much do you want to bet that they sold Emilo's house and the new owners cut the tree down? :-( This "owner just died" thing has happened to me twice in the last year. In my case it was trees that I've had my eye on and have been meaning to go ask about. By the time I got around to it, the people who might have had knowledge of the trees origin/history were no longer with us and the new owners weren't "fig people." At least you got to talk to Emilio and learn that the tree was from Sicily. I guess you have to act right away...one of these days I'm going to put off procrastinating... Cheers, Jim
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sergio
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Dennis, that was the best fig story I have ever heard, it is something out of the movies, enjoyed every word of it.
FiggyFrank
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You're nuts, Dennis! Those better be some damn good figs. ;)
__________________ Frank zone 7a - VA
potatochips101
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That is wild. That is fig fanatic determination. I thought you woulda dropped them cuttings in the tumult. You got me beat ;)
You know we're gonna have to hound you for cuttings now right?
;) hehe!
__________________ Maryland Zone 7a
Seeking: Panache Tiger Stripe, Ronde De Bordeaux,Black Bethlehem, Sicilian Red, Malta Black, Gino's Black, Col de Dame gris, Figo Preto, Orphan, Black Mission, Macool,Pastilliere, Malta Black, Battalagia Green, Maltese Falcon, Galicia
Please PM me if you have any of the above rooted cuttings or trees for sale or trade.
I am new to collecting so I don't have much to trade as yet.
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Brown Turkey, Atreano,Alma Violetta, English Brown Turkey, Celeste, JH Adriatic, LSU Purple, LSU Tiger, Banana, Early Violette, Stanford, Green Ischia, Violette Du Bordeaux, Mary Lane, Petite Negra, Hollier, Alma, Chicago Hardy, Sals Corleone, Black Madiera, Smith, Desert King, Negronne, St. Rita, Atreano Gold,
BronxFigs
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As an Italian I was more than a little shocked to read your story. I will reserve any comments regarding the appalling behavior, the hostility, and the unforgivable rudeness of Emilo's friends towards you, especially after you explained the reasons as to just why you were there. You deserved better. We have a word for this sort of riff-raff...we call these kind of people.... "cavones". * I assure you that had you walked into any celebrations involving my family and friends, you would have been treated like one of the family, and with far more civility. In fact, you would have gotten not only your cuttings, but you would have also gotten a good meal, including dessert, and a good size "doggie-bag" to take home. After reading about your colorful escapades involving that Sicilian "mob", the figs better be worth it. Trust me, the experience you had was an aberration. Frank ********************************************************************************************************** * cavone..... ignorant, uncouth, ill-mannered, stupid, loud, boorish, embarrassing.
__________________ Bronx, NYC Zone-7
figlandscaper
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That is an awesome story, Dennis! I'm sure you were looking over your shoulder for a while. Good to know this happened here in Charlotte. :) I bet that quite a few people on the forum have at least one funny/scary "fig-ninja" story to tell. So, start sharing so that all of us could have a laugh. As you saw, the statute of limitations is 2 years. :) Good story! Dragos
rcantor
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I agree with Frank of the Bronx.
__________________ Zone 6, MO Wish list: Galicia Negra, De La Reina - Pons, Genovese Nero - Rafed's, Sbayi, Souadi, Acciano, Any Rimada, Sodus Sicilian, any Bass, Pons or Axier fig, any great tasting fig.
susieqz
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frank is right. italians are not like that. warm greetings n hospitality are the norm.
__________________ susie wish list: nothing. i can't grow cuttings . right now, i have 6 trees showing no signs of fmv. i'd like to keep it that way' i was told that if i couldn't deal with fmv, i should grow peaches, so i got a peach tree to live with my clean figs.
waynea
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Webster needs to come up with a definition for a new word...FIGNUT... I am sure the definition will make reference to Dennis. You need to write a book including every fignut's experiences, I am sure yours will top all.
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Great story. U-da-man!
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Originally Posted by cyberfarmer Never go in against a Sicilian when figs are on the line!
Paul, you crack me up! Dennis, that is a great story, and I think Emilio's Unknown is a great name to use until you have a better idea what it is. :-)
__________________ -- Tamar Atlanta, GA Attempting to grow: LSU Purple, Genoa White Honey, Kadota, Alma, Lyndhurst White, Adriatic JH, Desert King, Sal's, Salem Dark, Improved Celeste, Celeste, Marylane Seedless, Panachee, Marseilles Black VS, Sal's Corleone, Kalamata, 135-15s, Negronne, White Marseilles, Beer's Black, Norella, Monstrueuse, unknown cultivars... yeah, the list is too long to update anymore.
greenbud
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Thank you for sharing your story. I read it to my husband too. I am glad that you didn't trip on that rusty fence for two reasons. One, you were outnumbered. And two, maybe one day some of those cuttings will be available to the folks here. I am sure Emilio is looking down and happy that someone that cares is keeping that fig tree genetics alive. *Also, listen to your wife more. :0)
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Great story.....The things we do for cuttings
__________________ john
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drphil69
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Wow, great story!
__________________ Phil - Zone 7A - Newark, DE Newbie fig lover just trying to learn.
BLB
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Dennis did you have the presence of mind to hold onto your pruners?
Otmani007
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That's quite a story and one risky situation. Glad you made it in one piece.
__________________ Dallas, TX - Zone 8a
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RichinNJ
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Originally Posted by BronxFigs As an Italian I was more than a little shocked to read your story. I will reserve any comments regarding the appalling behavior, the hostility, and the unforgivable rudeness of Emilo's friends towards you, especially after you explained the reasons as to just why you were there. You deserved better. We have a word for this sort of riff-raff...we call these kind of people.... "cavones". * I assure you that had you walked into any celebrations involving my family and friends, you would have been treated like one of the family, and with far more civility. In fact, you would have gotten not only your cuttings, but you would have also gotten a good meal, including dessert, and a good size "doggie-bag" to take home. After reading about your colorful escapades involving that Sicilian "mob", the figs better be worth it. Trust me, the experience you had was an aberration. Frank ********************************************************************************************************** * cavone..... ignorant, uncouth, ill-mannered, stupid, loud, boorish, embarrassing.
I agree
This story is shocking and unlike anything I would expect
Feigenbaum
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Amazing story Dennis, thank you for telling us! :-)
__________________ Hi from Germany! (Zone 7b) Christian
snaglpus
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I was able to hang on to cuttings and pruners because the guys were pretty slow with their blows and swings. One of them fell taking a swing at me. I think he was pretty buzzed. They all were drinking. The story might be different if they were not drinking. The fig is a long black fig. The tree is pretty much a dwarf.
__________________ Dennis Charlotte, North Carolina/Zone 8a
newnandawg
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Great story Dennis. Thanks for finally sharing
Frankallen
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Now that's Funny! That has got to be one of the best stories I have ever heard! :)
__________________Frank from Bama - Zone 7-b Alabama ...................................................."Live as if you were to die tomorrow. Learn as if you were to live forever". Mahatma Gandhi
MGorski
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Dennis, How does it taste? Was it worth getting assaulted? Glad Emilio gave you the go ahead before he passed, crazy story, seems getting that plant was meant to be.
Mike in Hanover, VA
__________________ Zone-7, previously Mescalito
Tonycm
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Dennis it shows that you'll risk life and limb for a fig limb. Lol
HOW BOUT THOSE FIGS!
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Grasa
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my favorite kid in Brazil is Emiliano. I love that name. there is a lot of goodness in that name. RIP Emilio. May his figs produce and you are safe, but for God's sake, would you please don't do it again?
__________________ Grasa
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Aaron4USA
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I don't know about you guys but when I am getting a cutting from someone...I need their smile and blessing!...r else, the hell with the cuttings, I don't want them. Bad karma will come bite my rear end. This was one crazy story of fig , LOL
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Great story Dennis, you make me laugh! I enjoyed reading it. I also scout for fig cuttings these days and I really know it when you determine to get some and you face difficulties. I usually look for figs that grows in public places like city parks, I also find a wide variety of figs in mosque gardens.
__________________ Kassoum, Holy Land, Sakhnin
noss
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Hi Dennis, Your story is right up there with Rafed's raiding in his Ninja suit. ;) noss
__________________ noss/a.k.a. Vivian Lafayette, LA Zone 9a Wish List: Col de Dame Blanc, Col de Dame Noir, Scott's Yellow, Tony's Brown Italian, any other fig that is good in the rain/humidity and has a real figgy flavor.
Norhayati
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Dennis, the things you do for figs. Would I do the same? I don't think so. I would be kneeling on my knees begging for my dear life.
Norhayati
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twovkay
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Love the story! How sad that they weren't friendlier?
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jdsfrance
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Hi Snaglpus, You're a crazy man ... Ever heard of the concept of nursery ? private property ? When a gardener tells you we'll see next week,month - well, next time you'll know it means come back in 2000 years - that would explain the reaction of the relatives. In the USA, I read, you can shoot one if he is on/enters your property - so you really got lucky it seems to only get beer . Didn't you hear about that law ? Is it an urban legend ? If you ever come to the Mediterranean belt, keep your hands in your pockets unless no one is around or it could be worse - "hot blooded people" those are called. They kill and talk afterwards. I'm back from holidays in Portugal, and I made sure to wear the ninja suit - a bag to hide everything in - and only took cuttings on trees where more than half was in the public area, or in parks. I wouldn't enter the field of someone else ... But ok, you made it in one piece - but next time ... be more discreet and don't act while people are in pain ... They'll want to share it with you :) - Hope the lesson is learned. For your own safety, change the surname to whatever you want, to break the link to your former exploit ...
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FiggyFrank
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jds, You're right. The castle doctrine law applies to selected states in the USA. North Carolina is one of those states.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Castle_doctrine#States_with_a_castle_law
__________________ Frank zone 7a - VA
snaglpus
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Rough crowd! Jdsfrance, what is wrong with you? Had I known the man had died, I would have never steeped towards the tree. I would have come there bearing gifts and paying my respect. Just like anyone else would. Sometimes, you guys can be way too serious and can spoil a story. Geez! Ease up.
__________________ Dennis Charlotte, North Carolina/Zone 8a
Lebmark
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Dennis , your story was a crazy funny one...I did enjoy it, glad you can talk about it. kassoum you also can find olive trees in those Gardens...hope you are far from the fighting.. Mark
__________________ Zone 7 Brooklyn,NY. Fig Wish List 2014: I-258 Genovese Nero, Violet Dauphine , Noir De Caromb, ROUGE DE BORDEAUX , BARNISOTTE, BARNISOTTE GRIS, Anything Lebanese ( I mean Fruit Plants...That I do Not Have...)
snaglpus
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I just visited that neighbourhood. The tree is gone....aka cut down. New folks have moved it. The school is no longer a school. It's something else. Since this incident, I started giving back. Over the years, I've given away, Celeste, Black Mission, Toni's Brown Italian, Green Greek, Pananas Purple, Marseilles Black, Purple Passion, Alma, Panchee, LSU Black, LSU Gold, and many others and not to mention cases of my fig jam.
__________________ Dennis Charlotte, North Carolina/Zone 8a
MGorski
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Dennis, I still wonder, have you had a chance to taste this fig yet? It's good you got those cuttings, the genetics have been preserved in N.C., and hopefully have or will be spread around. It would be ashame if that tree made it here from Italy, and then was cut down without being passed on to grow in other areas. Sharing is the way to go, hoarding genetics just results in loss in time. Emillio had the right idea when he offered those cuttings to you.
Mike in Hanover, VA
__________________ Zone-7, previously Mescalito
pino
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Dennis, I am sure Emilio is glad you were able to propagate his beloved tree and share it with others. It sounds like an interesting story for this unknown fig from the old country. Can't wait to see some photos of the fruit and leaves.
__________________Pino, zone 6, Niagara, JCJ Acres Wish; Peace on earth and more figs Italian 258, Galicia Negra, Luv, trade suggestions welcome.