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organic or natural fertilizers ?

Hi all
i grow several fruit trees, and have gotten pretty good at conditioning the soil
so that i dont really need chemical fertilizers, and i dont like using them at all unless absolutely necessary.

I mainly use fish emulsion, also some molasses, worm castings and compost
(mostly home made)

I have had pretty good results so far, especially with 1 fig in my back yard
i dont know the variety, so im not sure what it should taste like,
or, how large the fruit should be.

I have 2 fig trees in my front yard, where its mostly grass, and i havent been able to condition the soil properly yet.
The trees are still young, but, each only produced 5 and 7 figs.
(one is a Black Mission, i dont know the ID of the other)

i am wondering what people use that dont like chemicals
(and when to use them ) ??


front yard - no I.D. (young / new)
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front yard - no I.D. (same tree as pic above )

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backyard - (celeste ?)

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Hi:  Let's see if I've gotten any better after a year.  I want to guess Brunswick or Violette De Bordeaux for your tree.  If your profile picture is the same tree I'll narrow my guess down to Violette De Bordeaux.

I like the natural stuff too.  I'd add kelp, alfalfa meal and Azomite to your mix.  I fertilize when I remember to, so I can't help you there.

Your tree looks good with all the figs on it.  What else are you growing?

The backyard fig is plentiful.

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Originally Posted by VeryNew2Figs
Hi:  Let's see if I've gotten any better after a year.  I want to guess Brunswick or Violette De Bordeaux for your tree.  If your profile picture is the same tree I'll narrow my guess down to Violette De Bordeaux.

I like the natural stuff too.  I'd add kelp, alfalfa meal and Azomite to your mix.  I fertilize when I remember to, so I can't help you there.

Your tree looks good with all the figs on it.  What else are you growing?


Cant find Azomite, alfalfa or Kelp local.  i  used diatomaceous earth once or twice and i love it, but its a bit expensive
(i think it was $12 for an 8lb bag, with all my trees, that lasts 2 weeks max)

as far as type
the first 2 pics are a plant i got from Lowes for $2 - One or two years ago
i think its a green/white type. i just had a fruit this morning, the outside was light green
and inside was a honey color with a bit of light purple also in the middle.
it was soft, but i think could have waited a couple of days more.

On the last pic
i posted it here a while back
someone said Celeste... its very productive, darker color skin...
someone else told me LSU purple ?
no idea, as long as it tastes good, im happy :)

heres a post of me asking for ID for both of them
(first 2 pics are what i am calling "front yard"

http://figs4funforum.websitetoolbox.com/post/2-trees-unknown-id-8175599?pid=1292820335

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what am i growing ?
everything edible... LOL

i have several large trees, and dozens of small ones...

Cherimoya, mango, papaya, kiwi, muscadine, jujube, starfruit, aratilis, several types of guava and Psidium relatives, Jaboticaba and other Myrtaceae, Mamey, mulberry, Lychee, several herbs
and about 20 more :)
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I do all I can to prevent using chemicals on my figs.
I fertilize as it comes available by my 4 rabbits.
Unbelievable growth when top dressing my trees with it.

I do spray all my figs in early spring just as leaves appear.
I spray again in fall after all harvesting and cuttings taken.
What this does is help in the prevention of scales, aphids, and mites.
2 times a year with pyola insect spray.


Doug

Quote:
Originally Posted by SCfigFanatic
I do all I can to prevent using chemicals on my figs.
I fertilize as it comes available by my 4 rabbits.
Unbelievable growth when top dressing my trees with it.

I do spray all my figs in early spring just as leaves appear.
I spray again in fall after all harvesting and cuttings taken.
What this does is help in the prevention of scales, aphids, and mites.
2 times a year with pyola insect spray.


Doug


Thanks Doug
no rabbits here though. im in the suburbs.

no insect problems either
(knock on wood)
but i do get a squirrel eating the ripe fruit...
will trade my squirrel for your rabbit ? :)

also
VeryNew2Figs

this is the "Front yard" fig  (no ID) i had for breakfast

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this is the leaves...
looks like BM a bit, but, its not.

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A great Azomite alternative is making a mineral supplement by drying/roasting egg shells, then pulverizing them into a fine powder with a blender or grinder. Its amazing. Good for people too, and the price is right.  : )

I top dress all of my plants with manure/compost. Its perfect because it slowly trickles down as it rains or receives watering. No need to work it into the soil. You can even put it right on top of the grass. Top dressing is also great because you don't have to worry about burning the plants if its rich, since you're not making direct contact with the roots. Only by the above mentioned trickle, as well as worms coming up to feed on the compost, bringing it down to the root zone, but by that point its gone through the worms' digestive tracts which as you know is perfect for the plants. I refuse to use chemical and salt based fertilizers.

If for whatever reason you need a nitrogen-rich fertilizer to be absorbed quickly you can also make compost tea and/or add urine (pee into a bucket or whatever) to water, 1 part urine to at least several parts water.  Good stuff...really!

There are other factors involved with scarcity in fig production such as receiving enough direct sunlight, so if the ones in the grass are in a shadier position, that can be why as well. 

Azomite can be expensive.  A few years ago I was lucky enough to find a farm that sold Azomite and also sold stuff at a farmer's market in the city.  They were good enough to bring a 44 lb bag of the Azomite with them to the farmer's market and I went there and got it from them.  I couldn't have afforded it if I had to pay shipping and handling.  I bought another bag a couple years later, but I'm almost out now.

I stopped by a feed store not too, too far away and they had ground kelp, bone meal, blood meal, alfalfa, corn meal gluten, dried and liquid molasses.  I'm sure there were other products there that could be used as fertilizers.  So, that could be another option for the organic ferts.

Every eggshell gets saved and powdered.  It never clicked that the egg shells serve some of the same purposes as the rock powder.  Thanks.  Good to know.

Beautiful garden! Figs aren't too picky in terms of fertilizer, i find that compost, manure, and some bone meal along with deep mulchings keeps figs well satiated

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