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Lucky me was able to get my hands on a few jujubes a few months ago.
Sugar Cane
GA-866
GI 7-62 (Chico)
Honey Jar
Abbeville
Looking for a large crop this year. I know Bass has several trees. Does anyone else have them? If so, what's your favorite?
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Dennis, I have a couple trees left a Sherwood and a LI with Tigertooth, Redlands #4, and Sugar Cane grafted on. I have had bad luck with them in late freezes as I was surprised as hardy as they are listed. I lost 2 trees to below graft that got froze after leafing out. I always hear raves on Honey Jar and Sugar Cane, although Honey jar fruit is small.
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I have Li and Sugar Cane coming this spring. I'm looking forward to trying them, though I probably won't see fruit for a couple of years.
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I have a small Lang I plan on grafting a few varities onto it eventually if it survives winter.
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Abbeville. ?? I lived in abbeville. Is this figs you have ??
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Abbeyville produces a heavy crop, but they're small and sour. I have a few new varieties I'm grafting this spring.
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Is this,figs,or sugar cane yall talking about
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I called and talked to Mr Jujube himself, Roger Meyer several times last year. I just got 3 of his trees in last week. The one I really wanted Honey Jar, he had!!!! It's not as large as some of my others but that's ok. Jujubes do have a unique flavor and taste. I bought a bunch from my local Asian market last year. I peeled, sliced, and dried them in my dehydrator after sautéed in a touch of coconut sugar and apple juice. Man they were awesome!
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Originally Posted by figpig_66 Is this,figs,or sugar cane yall talking about
Not figs. Off topic thread on another small fruit: jujubes. Li, Sugarcane, Honey Jar, Abbeyville, etc. are all varieties of jujube.
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Thank you. I just wanted to know what kind of fruit it was. I will google it.
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How long does it take to fruit. Looks like a big cherry
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Love Jujubes. Lang never produced much. Li has been very fruitful, and Sherwood is great.
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Do you have jujubes?
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Have one tree in a 10 gal pot and its enough.
They have strong root system and the trees are hard to kill.
I just wish they were easier to propagate.
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In my nursery business I sold Li. Great cultivar for this area. I have one now from DWN planted at my new home here in Vista.
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I have Li, Li 2, Shanxi Li, Sherwood, and Jin; none in the ground more than 1.5 years. They survived last years unusually cold temps with some damage. Shanxi is fairly new to our shores and very promising for productivity, flavor, and fruit size. I bought dried jujubes to try before planting. They have sort of a mild but nutty flavor and not too sweet. I planted a few seed and grown several trees that way, but they are still small and have not fruited. They grow easily from seed. If the fruit is poor from the seedlings or any I have planted, I can use them as root stock for a scion from one I do like. Scion wood is available for nearly any variety. Here are some old notes I have on the varieties (ignore my highlighting).@Li: Beautiful Chinese introduction by Frank Meyer. Large round fruit up 3 ounces in mid-August. May be picked at the yellow-green stage. Best eaten fresh. Best single tree to have. Early fruiting.
Li 2: NEW! This came to me as Li, but the fruit and the tree itself are obviously different from the Li above. The fruit is very large and ripens several weeks later than the Li. Tree has one hooked spine and one dagger spine.
SHANXI LI: NEW! First time offered in US. Extremely large fruit with great flavor.
JIN: Excellent either fresh or dried. Mid season.
@SHERWOOD: A seedling plant from Louisiana. Fruit is very dense and excellent. The tree is very narrow and upright with leaves that are a weeping habit. Very late ripening fruit.
LANG: Large, pear-shaped fruit - late ripening and must be fully red to be best. Some fruit may split and soften before ripening. Leave these on the tree to dry. This is the best for dried fruit. The tree is very upright and virtually thornless.
@HONEY JAR: A new Chinese cultivar with small but absolutely unique, sweet taste for use fresh or dried.
SHUI MEN: From the TVA project in Tennessee. Fruit is elongated and excellent fresh or dried.
SO: A tree of most beautiful shape. At each node of the stem the branch decides to go off in a different direction. Hence, very zig zag branching. Tree seems to be somewhat dwarfed. Fruit is early.
SILVERHILL: An elongated fruit from Georgia . Very late fruit to ripen. Crops well even in northern Florida.
GA866 : One of the selections from the breeding program at Chico. Outstandingly sweet fruit with sugar levels approaching 45%! Large, elongated fruit. Excellent!
SUGAR CANE: Small to medium sized fruit which are round to somewhat elongated. Extremely sweet and crunchy fruit but on a very spiny plant. The fruit is worth the spines!
TSAO: From Pennsylvania with the fruit pointed at both ends. Tsao is the Chinese name for the jujube (actually "date" or "apple"). Excellent, sweet mid -season variety .
GI 7-62: From the Chico Research Program. Fruit is round but flattened to an unusual shape. Excellent, sweet taste. A real surprise! It was named "Chico" by Paul Thompson of the California Rare Fruit Growers.
GI-1183: Also from the research program. Excellent fruit of medium to large size. Late harvest .
THORNLESS: Fruit similar to Lang but may not be identical to it. It is virtually thornless.
ADMIRAL WILKES: From the Capitol grounds in Washington D.C. This plant is one of the progeny from the Wilkes expedition to the South Seas in 1842. Elongated like Silverhill and the very last to ripen.
TEXAS TART: A high acid, tart fruit from the campus of Texas Tech University, Lubbock. Small, very sweet, raisin-like fruit when dried.
TOPEKA: Collected from Mellinger's Clinic in Kansas. Very nice, crispy sweet fruit. Late harvest .
ED HEGARD: From Alabama. Fruit similar to Lang and also virtually thornless.
REDLANDS #4: Collected from an old homestead in Redlands, Ca. Very large, sweet, round fruit. Mid season.
YU: One of the original introductions by Frank Meyer. Claimed to be one of the best eating jujube.
FITZGERALD: From Georgia . Small, round fruit which are almost black when fully ripe.
ABBEVILLE: From Louisiana. An elongated fruit on a very prolific plant. Loads of small to medium fruit.
PORTERVILLE: An unknown seedling from Porterville, CA. Fruit is round and unusually bumpy.
ANT ADMIRE: Another Chinese cultivar with elongated fruit eaten fresh. Mid season harvest. Excellent.
SEPTEMBER LATE: Used fresh or dried--mid to late harvest. Fruit is elongated
GLOBE: Very large, round fruit which are best dried. Late season
SIHONG: Excellent, large, round fruit--mid season.
MU: NEW! Introduced into the US by Frank Meyer nearly 80 years ago, then lost. Recently found in an obscure botanical garden.
DON POLENSKI: NEW! Similar to Lang but a better, crisper flavor.
SUI: A newly rediscovered cultivar listed by Frank Meyer
6 NEW RUSSIAN CULTIVARS: 1) Kitaiski 2 , 2) Kitaiski 60 , 3) Oo Sene Hun , 4) 29-16 TOC , 5) Sovietski , and 6) Ta Yan Tsao (probably Lang)
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Richard, we are talking about Jujubes. Go to Bass's website and read. He has a very nice story on why he got rid of his apple trees and switched to growing Jujubes instead.
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Originally Posted by snaglpus Richard, we are talking about Jujubes. Go to Bass's website and read. He has a very nice story on why he got rid of his apple trees and switched to growing Jujubes instead.
Yes, my post was about the Jujube Li. Why did you feel otherwise?
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Ha! Too many Richards! My comment was for Richard Boni, aka figis_66.
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I have had a fruiting grafted Li jujube for around twenty years now in the front yard. It holds up well as a small tree in our dry, baking heat in late summer/ early fall and produces an abundance of jujubes each year over several weeks time. At best, they have a delicious, crunchy apple taste, like a ripe Pink Lady. It’s hard to catch them perfectly ripe for eating. They quickly turn to mush and are uneatable. Warning- suckers of the root stock will start appearing all around the tree for around a ten foot radius. I don’t think I’ll ever plant one in the ground again. I have a Sugar Cane jujube in a pot that I bought last winter, but I don’t know if it survived the heat bake we had last fall. It went dormant and hasn’t sprouted out yet. I don't think I would prefer it over my Wickson crab apple tree, wish I had planted a three in one or four in one planting of other fruit trees in the same space. Figs would love that location. But if I chopped it down, I would be fighting the rootstock suckers for years.
A Chinese-American man was delivering packages for UPS a number of years back, and discovered my fruiting Li tree. He made a big fuss over it, said it was my $10,000 tree, and is welcome to come back every year and help himself to jujubes when they are ripe. He said in China the trees are prized for their association with optimal health and a long life.
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Thanks snag. Going to ch3ck it out,with bass
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Ok. What would yall plant for fresh eating in Louisiana where summers are long and fall is ,usally hot too. Plus rainy too.
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Of course another thing to know about Jujube is that the leaves, bark, roots, etc. are a toxic source of cyanide - and so are the fruits until they are ripe.
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Figpig, I would suggest Loquat, depending on just where you are in Louisiana, ensuring that it's one of the newer italian/israeli varieties. Kaki, pawpaw, Butia capita, fejoia, muscadines, play around with citrus like http://www.woodlanders.net/index.cfm?fuseaction=plants.plantDetail&plant_id=2087 and http://www.woodlanders.net/index.cfm?fuseaction=plants.plantDetail&plant_id=1836 the trouble with true subtropical climates like ours is that we're too consistently wet to avoid rots and rusts, but not warm enough in the winter to grow many of the things that resists disease with great fruit, and vice versa.
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Bas I have on my radar to get a couple of Jujube varieties this year. Which of your varieties can survive and ripen fruit in zone 6? Do Jujube seedling produce edible fruit? Thanks for your help.
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jujube seedlings can produce in as little as 3 years, but the fruit quality is variable and doesn't come true to type. Many jujube seeds are hollow which means won't sprout. Jujube seedlings is definitely edible, but some are very tiny, and barely have any meat, many can be sour. One of the best ones that produced for me are Li, Honey jar, sugar cane, among a few others that I'm still testing. Coco tastes great but small.
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Thanks Bass! So these are also cold hardy z6?
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Figpig, if you go to this link and scroll down, it talks about Jujubs. This man is growing them in Abbeville La. http://www.tandeecal.com/page3.htm
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Yes they're hardy in zone 6. One other thing is also important is heat, and not just the cold hardiness. They like the heat to ripen properly.
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Shah8 i have loquat already. I was wondering which jujubes would grow here. Thanks,though. I love my loquat. Its old and a grate producer. Loojs like a jungle plant with its huge leaves
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There's an old British idiom: "penny wise and pound foolish". I think starting fruit trees from seed when well-bred cultivars exist falls within the idiom - because the cost of a tree in a 5 to 15 gallon container is insignificant in comparison to the labor and resources expended over the life of the tree.
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Spoken like a true salesman. Thanks for sharing.
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I forget when I tried jujubes, but I remember being distinctly underwhelmed. This past summer I was at Linnilea Farms and jujubes came up in conversation with the owner, a very venerable gentleman with a lot of botany under his belt. I forget his name. Anyhow, when I said that I was totally unimpressed with jujubes, he replied that Li jujube was the best fruit he had ever tasted. That picqued my interest!
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There are definite advantages to modern varieties, figpig, so if you see a chance to grab a few scions to put on your loquat... Count me as among those with very little interest in jujube. Main advantage is that it gives a carefree apple flavor, but you really have to pick them at the right time. Better for processing than out of hand, for the most part.
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I'm thinking of regrafting my Lang after some thought.Now, honey jar, sugarcane are good for fresh eating, I'm curious about shanxi li and Li, are they good for fresh eating?
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My first jujube tree was Li. I planted it without knowing if it will actually bear in zone 6 or if it's cold hardy. That was 13 years ago. 2 years later I grafted other varieties into it. I think I ended up with 8 varieties grafted into the Li. Li produced the most fruit as it was the largest part of the tree. It is definitely the favorite in my family. Sihong was good, but late and not as juicy, but it tastes excellent dried (drying can't be done in the Northeast). Tsao has an interesting shape, and tasty, but not much meat to it. Abbeyville is very productive of small pear shaped fruit, with tangy flavor. Silverhill Planted at my new location, not very sweet and I'll probably graft over it. Sugarcane, excellent flavor olive size. HoneyJar, excellent sweet flavor, with juiciness. It produces small fruit. Planted it at my dad's place and it produced different sizes of fruit. Some were as big as Li. Lang I never grafted it. It is usually a couple week later than Li, it's large but more commonly used for drying than fresh eating. I didn't like the flavor of the ones I've tried. Lebanese Annab, an olive size fruit from the native Lebanese varieties. It is highly regarded for it's sweet flavor. Still under evaluation. Coco, another very sweet flavor. Average size fruit, some thorns but tasty fruit.
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Does anyone have any jujube scion available? I'm still looking to regraft my small potted lang and am looking for just a few sticks of something good for fresh eating.
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I have two jujube trees, they both came from friends, so the variety is not exactly known, one might be a sugarcane. I never really care about jujube trees until this past September, when I picked some fruits fresh off the tree, and enjoy it right away, and let me tell you this, the jujube tree is definitely a must have in every garden, I found the fruit taste the best when it's still green but with some red spots on it. The taste is like an apple but way better, it's crunch and super sweet, and apparently, it's highly medicinal too. You can also dry the fruits and store it for months or years without any problems, the dry fruits can be used in basically any type of soups (it's like the natural sugar but with added medicinal value), or to put it in your tea or cereals.
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snaglplus, Mr jacks farm in charlotte is having Li, Lang, GA-866 and Sherwood plants. Each is $50 and they really big trees. May be in 15g pots. I have seen honey jar in Raleigh farmers market. One guy is having the trees. He still have 2 plants. They are also big trees 7-8' tall but in 5g pots. They are $75. I do have 35 varieties of jujubes. Most of them are small plants. I have 2 Li for last 4 years and they are big plants now. For me Li, lang Sherwood and GA-866 tastes same(may be I am concentrating more on eat than taste differentiating). They are all awesome. I sure say honey jar tastes better. I had 2 fruits on the plant and I have tasted only one fruit. Since last 2 years, I am moving so I kept them in pots. This year, I will plant them in ground. I will post pictures of my fruits and plants once I go home. I have one extra plant of so variety.
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FYI : Roger Meyer is no more. He passed away in Nov I think.
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Originally Posted by Bunti FYI : Roger Meyer is no more. He passed away in Nov I think.
I was wondering why his website says they're selling the farm...
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His jujube articles from a couple decades ago were reprinted in this month's CRFG issue in honor of him.
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It saddens me to hear that Roger passed away. He sent me 5 trees 2 years ago. We talked on the phone several times over the past 3 years. Last year his wife called and said Roger had medical issues and they were having trouble trying to fulfill all the request.
The one thing I'm proud of is Roger spent lots of his time educating me on Jujubes. I wish I had visited him but never made it. He had a unique voice that I will always remember. All the trees he sold me fruited last year. Some were so full, the tree was half way on the ground. All I did was fertilize and water and boom! Mr Meyer will be missed.
As for Mr Jack's Farm, I knew mr Jack personally. Yes, he has lots of Jujubes . I've visited his farm many times over the years. One year ago, he too passed away. His farm is truly a site to see. His daughter is taking over the farm. The farm was hit badly by the borer beetle. They lost a lot of trees last year. There's a separate farm f giant trees on the northwest side of Mr Jack's house. He wouldn't let you go over there, I was able to see it last Spring after his death. The trees there were 10+ years old. According to his daughter, those were special her father. She told me to pick out wherever I wanted but I didn't. It just didn't seem right.
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Yes Roger will be missed, he was a legend and it will be impossible to replace all of his horticultural knowledge. Dennis, most fruit tree nuts like us would have really "went to town" when offered such a temptation but you forever have my respect for your actions.
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I'm sorry to hear the news about Roger Meyer. I bought some baby trees from him last winter. I guess, I'm one of the last few people who received trees from him.
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Thank you Ed. Bass is the only other person I know that's very knowledgeable about jujubes. I need to plant mine in the ground this weekend but I hurt my back 2 weeks ago. I fell down our icy front porch steps. I landed on my lower back hitting all 6 steps on the way down. Now, I have cracked vertebrae in my back and a huge contusion on my back! Wife won't let me do much around the house until my back heals.
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Took a long drive from Austin to San Francisco and heading back home. Sorry for not making many stops and meeting new friends. Perhaps next time.
So I managed to visit the late Roger Meyer's home and met his wife. She had three jujube trees for me which included the elusive Autumn Beauty which I've been looking for for the past couple of years. (I bought the last of her Autumn Beauties) . She still had a few varieties including Redlands #4, Jin, Sugar Cane and Honey Jar (one of my favorites and early ripening varieties). She had none of the Russian varieties. In total, she had about 30 pots left from the farm after it was sold. If anyone is interested and can pick them up, she charges $30 per tree and does not ship. These will be the last of her Jujube trees.
__________________ Sas from North Austin TX Zone 8B Wish list: Becane