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godsavesthequeen

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For those interested, here is a pic of a 6 months seedling  "Zagros fig from Iran". The shape of the leaves is different from F. carica. I dont know anything about its sexuality...

The iranian wasp may be different for the Zagros type?  The plant seems interesting for gardeners. Good resistance to solar radiation, and drought, and nice appearance. May be a Ficus afghanistanica relative?

http://img826.imageshack.us/img826/4809/ev3y.jpg
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Any idea how cold hardy these may be Chriss?  Do you know what part the Zagros mountains these came from and how cold that area gets?
Thank you,
Greg
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I have just a small idea, perhaps not objective: I know this plant for just 2 years. Last winter (2012), the temperature felt  -14°C in Marseille-center of Town. These low temperatures are such exceptional here! (My orchard is located in zone 9b where usual extrema in winter is around -5°C). The Zagros plantules were located in a container, just beside a south oriented wall concrete-made. In winter, the solar irradiation is weak here, only one hour around 12h, so the thermal storage is nearly "0 Joules"!

Result: The young Zagros fig trees can cope with low temperatures. They have been no stressed, nor disturbed by coldness.

Therefore, I confirm the containers was set beside the wall, and directly on the slab of the terrace. It is important because there is no vaporisation of water, thus dry air. The Maine is not Arizona! According to me, you absolutely need to set zagros on rocky places, or keep them in container on your terrace.

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:)  It sure would be hard to confuse Maine and Arizona, you are correct!!!  If I ever try seedlings of Zagros I will follow your instructions in selecting a site.  Thank you Chriss.
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I have a very similar fig that came to me ad an Afghan fig. Might be a relative.
Mine is a super slow grower, I have not had any figs yet from it.
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Has the identical leaf pattern to the Shirazi fig's leaves. There will never ripe their fruits here hence it is too cold for the fig wasp to survive.

Navid.
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Hello Chriss,
this plant has a wonderful leaf structure...............Very attractive..................
Where did you obtain it from please?
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godsavesthequeen

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Hi Liza!
Quite easy:

http://www.bazartche.com/upload/

I think they ship in whole world.

You have 2 solutions for making them sprout:

- "Old method" .....
- Vinegar method

PS: Zagros seeds requires much heat to sprout. You can use pumice (in France, we call it 'pouzzolane') and set them in May in the solar irradiation direction, or better, in a green house. Pumice desorbs quickly irrigation water, and convects heat in atmospher. Sprouting is erratic and comes rather slowly. But that works!
Cheers
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Hi all!

Anyone can confirm if there is a strong resemblance with leaves of Wuhan fig?
http://figs4funforum.websitetoolbox.com/post/looking-for-Wuhan-fig-cutting(s)-5517788

What this could mean? Wuhan fig is also different species than Ficus carica?
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Originally Posted by nkesh099
Has the identical leaf pattern to the Shirazi fig's leaves. There will never ripe their fruits here hence it is too cold for the fig wasp to survive. Navid.


The dried fruit look just like Shirazi figs too.  If you do an internet search you'll find folks selling them here in the US
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What is the French word I have to search for on that website in order to find your fig?

Thanks!

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Hi Liza!
Quite easy:

http://www.bazartche.com/upload/

I think they ship in whole world.

You have 2 solutions for making them sprout:

- "Old method" .....
- Vinegar method

PS: Zagros seeds requires much heat to sprout. You can use pumice (in France, we call it 'pouzzolane') and set them in May in the solar irradiation direction, or better, in a green house. Pumice desorbs quickly irrigation water, and convects heat in atmospher. Sprouting is erratic and comes rather slowly. But that works!
Cheers
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Figues Seches sur l'arbre (1 Kgr)
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http://www.bazartche.com/upload/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=40

You'll note that the region says Shiraz so these are the Shirazi figs.  I didn't notice that the first time I went on the site, always good to look twice!  Thank you Chriss, I'll see how they do as I have tons of seedlings popping up in a pot right now.  They were very quick to germinate, first seedlings up in 6 days with more coming every day.  I suspect they will die here in Maine, but I will do as you say and plant them in a hot microclimate that is very well draining and has rocks or masonry around them to radiate heat.  Also, our soils are acidic so I'll modify the pH up somewhat. 
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Figues Zagros in Armagnac are available from Vergers de Gascogne!
Best wishes,
Hugh

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The main problem being when you grow from seed you have no idea if the tree you are growing will produce any kind of fruit much less an edible one....
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