ik2003
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Is it really good or rare? Any experience with this fig? Thank you
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There is a post just a little bit down the page with the title Why? It's has 110 responses just about Ponte tresa.
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It's the holy grail.
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It is both good and rare.
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Its a fig , get over it.
ik2003
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Thank you! :)
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Wow they are giving those things away LOL They are all rare and expensive until they get circulated around it's a waiting game
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Is it a unknown from a trip to Switzerland or is it a named fig from Switzerland?
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It's not an unknown anymore, Richie.
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Was it a named fig like lsu gold etc or was it a found fig. Just wondering i know its,extremely awsome just wondering if it was once a unknown
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It is an unknown, named by Frank for the town where he found it.
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Here's the info on it Rich http://northfloridafigs.blogspot.com/2015/12/ponte-tresa.html
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Thanks dave for info. So it still up in the air if it will need the,wasp to produce the incredible fig pulp. Only time will tell. Was hoping to see the inside pic of his fig he ripend in Florida. Outside looks different but it,a young tree still.
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i was one of the original lucky 3 people to have this from last year. it fruited for me and was a fast grower.
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I hope that someday someone can find out the history of this plant and let us all know how it came to be planted along that sidewalk in Ponte Tresa. In my mind I have this image of a kind gardener planting their special fig along the walk so as to share it with passers-by. My road front is shaded by forest so I might need to do something like this with pawpaws instead.
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elin
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Everytime i think im out- They pull me back in! Anyone got pics?
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What' does the middle of the fig look like andreas ? .
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Richie, are you saying this thread puts you to sleep?? LOL!
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I just love that pic. & i dont like cats. Lol
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waynea
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super photo
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Richie the picture in the middle is my larger ponte tresa as you can see i have 2 plants
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I think he wants to see the inside of the fig Andreas. I can't be sure though since there is no subject in comment. Unless he wants to know what is in the middle of you ;) I've grown Verdal and discarded because it was poorly suited for my climate, now that I have seen more pics of PT I can save my money ;)
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I'm guessing it was planted there courtesy of birdie dookie.
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Why do you think that Calvin?
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Originally Posted by cis4elk I'm guessing it was planted there courtesy of birdie dookie.
Good thinking... A good story line, of a kindly gardener planting the fig along a pathway, so others may enjoy his favorite fig variety, will only drive prices higher.
Saying a bird pooped and that's where it came from, certainly de-romanticizes it, which will hopefully, (I hope), drive prices lowers. I agree bird dookie it is. :)
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Why do you think that Calvin?
Because down/along an embankment of a lake seems like a rather torturous place to purposely plant a tree, and like a more random spot where a bird would maybe perch on the railing which runs along the top of the embankment and relieve itself of some figgy burden. It is entirely possible that there is a nice path out of sight along the lake, and some old wandering fig gypsy planted his or her treasured fig tree there. The bird scenario is just what came to mind when I saw the pictures of where the tree grows.
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It overhangs a dock.
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Next year it should go for $20 :)
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It is planted by a house that is below the sidewalk . The tree is tall now and picking up the ripe figs is very convenient since you are collecting them from the top of the tree.
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Hmm, wow. I never would have guessed that there was a house down there.
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Anyone game for talking to them to find out the story of this tree? They'd probably let you take some cuttings. Just don't tell them how much they've sold for!!!
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Frank has had ripe fruit and he doesn't have the wasp so we know it doesn't need the wasp. Frank said his last few were very good and similar to what he tasted in Switzerland. The first ones were eaten by the birds.
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Originally Posted by GregMartin Anyone game for talking to them to find out the story of this tree? They'd probably let you take some cuttings. Just don't tell them how much they've sold for!!!
Ya I was wondering about the story too Greg. And what the protocol is for harvesting Figs, cuttings, etc. along a public right of way? It is a beautiful Fig and I'm heartened to hear longtime members speak of the way a rare variety gets propagated out into the world of us newbies. It all so cool. Just hard to be a patient gardener. Ah the lessons. Looking forward to the first figs of the year. ;-)
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Originally Posted by GregMartin Anyone game for talking to them to find out the story of this tree? They'd probably let you take some cuttings. Just don't tell them how much they've sold for!!!
I am working on it .
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The owners seem not to care much about the PT figs, they never pick them up. You can see them falling to the ground and drying on the tree. I do not think it is precious to the owners, it protects from the people walking along the sidewalk mostly and gives some shade.
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I am working to find out its true ID with someone who is owning a huge fig plantation in Switzerland . They already replied to me but still in discussion with some others who are also in fig business
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The only sane person here is John Parav. People are paying hundreds of dollars for cuttings of an unknown fig that has produced one (as in 1) piece of fruit in the continental US. The hype is like a wave building. And at the end no one knows why. Many people discover unknown figs. Why this one? Yes, I get that Frank is apopleptic about the taste, and I get that people have lots of $$ to spend on their hobby in this country. BUT WHY THIS FIG and not any other? its just irrational. I'll let y'all know in September what I think of the taste.
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I think that exists two types of figs:
figs for people that love eating figs, and figs for people that like to have a collection of figs.
Sometimes i think if it's worth to have so many fig varieties, like some people.
Why these people accumulate hundreds fig varieties? These are figs, not figurines!
I bet that these people eat only the fruit of 4-5 favorite varieties and discard the others.
I dont't envy the owners of Ponte Tresa or other rare varieties. I too have rare varieties, that i'm sure are unknown elsewhere (except those wich i've given), no one can say that mine are worst than Ponte Tresa.
I admire the sellers for their marketing ability, high prices are made by buyers.
There was a lot of promotion for this variety, the work has paid off, it's a "business variety".
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> figs for people that love eating figs So, that would be a Panache, right? ;-)
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rafael - I'd love to respond to your post, but until someone sends me a cuttings of PT...... I can't!
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Originally Posted by rafaelissimmo The only sane person here is John Parav. People are paying hundreds of dollars for cuttings of an unknown fig that has produced one (as in 1) piece of fruit in the continental US. The hype is like a wave building. And at the end no one knows why. Many people discover unknown figs. Why this one? Yes, I get that Frank is apopleptic about the taste, and I get that people have lots of $$ to spend on their hobby in this country. BUT WHY THIS FIG and not any other? its just irrational. I'll let y'all know in September what I think of the taste.
Oh please do not ask Why . That why is soooo irritated . Like I have said before , Frank just happened to be a lucky guy . I won that auction just because I wanted it at that specific moment. When your lucky time comes , you can turn trash into gold . Or for 1 dollar you can win millions in lottery . While that variety is still high in demand, I suggest you to sell your tree NOW. No need to wait for your tree to set fruit, because tomorrow the price of a PT cutting might drop to .99
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Originally Posted by
hoosierbanana It overhangs a dock.
So, whoever visit the spot can feel free to get cuttings from this tree????????????
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Mai Mai is it? With all respect, I think it is you that have misunderstood me. As I said, It is a free country, so if you want to spend your money on any fig you want, that's great, whether it is justified or not is another story. If your point is you have every right to do what you want and like whatever fig you want, I cannot disagree. But I am not going to sell my tree and cash out because I am not a fig collector for the money. I am a collector because I enjoy the fruit and I enjoy the process. I have my own career, and that is how I earn my money, so no thank you for your suggestion to sell.
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Hi Garden, Never heard of the legendary first accessory of the figer : The ninja suit with double pruning sheers integrated ! LOL . So as long as you're not caught and you are not abusing like in taking the whole tree ... there is probably a tolerance ... Of course you'll still be unmasked . The wife and siblings at home will catch you (with cuttings in bottles with water)... and you'll have to bear their stare ... And next time you'll pass by a fig tree, they will be yelling at you : Resist to the fig side of the force; you can do it ... but you can't ... Damn life ...
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Try as I might, I just don't get it. Why the anger? And to whom is it specifically directed? Who are the bad guys in this soap opera?
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Originally Posted by Fico I think that exists two types of figs: figs for people that love eating figs, and figs for people that like to have a collection of figs. Sometimes i think if it's worth to have so many fig varieties, like some people. Why these people accumulate hundreds fig varieties? These are figs, not figurines! I bet that these people eat only the fruit of 4-5 favorite varieties and discard the others. ".
Not only TWO types of figs, but many types ... depending on the purpose of each individual In my case, I am collecting many varieties of fig, not for sale now (maybe for sale in the future because I need to get some $$$$ back so I can afford to play more ) , not for eating figs ( I can buy them here and there, and I cannot consume more than a dozen a day, I do not have enough land to let them grow big , I do not like fruit flies when the fruits are ripe , and I do not like hundred of unwanted squirrels come to my backyard ) . I am collecting as much as I can different fig varieties so I can play with them . I am using my money, my labor for the joy of discovery in experimental stages . If things are going well, I will share my ideas with others . That is what I am doing . My play does not hurt anyone , but vice versa . I am a server. That is it !
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Lolita are you grafting varies fig varieties in one huge fig tree? Theres an artist who grafted varies fruits in a tree and he made it so that that there was a flow of ripeness of fruits in each season.... that would be soo awesome
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