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Good Evening!
A few pics of our "Genoa" or so I thought. . .
I am suspicious - Me thinks it looks more like Black Mission than the Genoa/White Genoa pics I can find in the F4F Varieties section or elsewhere online.
If that's the case, that's OK, we love Black Mission also, but already have two! Purchased from a small family-run nursery and could have been mislabeled.
What do you think? No fruit and sorry for bad camera-phone pics :)
Thanks for any help! - Dave
 

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They are not like Genoa leaves in Australia (black or white varieties). They have been here for a long time and the earliest reference I have found is a newspaper article from 1877.
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Dave
Love the leaf.
I don't think it is either Genoa or Mission, but put me on the list for cuttings, LOL
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Genoa will grow slow and develop a thick trunk. If this doesn't its not Genoa. Doesn't look like my genoa leaves.
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Mission
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Hey Gang, Thanks for the help!
I'd better just forget about the "Genoa" possibility (darn! Anyone have any Genoa cuttings?)
This is the closest pic I can find of a Genoa looking like what I have (but not really close at all!):
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And here is a definite Black Mission example (much closer):
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I BIG picture of the whole scraggly stick :) A member has been coaching me on how to get the side-shoots going; Wish us luck!
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If you want it to thicken and strengthen, then you need to cut it back.
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Not Genoa. Could very well be Black Mission. BM has a wide variety of leaf shapes, and some look almost like Brunswick. BM tend to have some pinkishness in the stems.
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BexleyRabbit, I want a Strong Happy Tree :)
How low do we go? Take the top 1/3? 1/2? It stands around 6' and some leaves are getting burned up.
A few small little leaves/shoots trying to start in the middle - no doubt due to the serenading & guitar playing I treat it too ;)
Also please keep in mind my hope is to get enough side shoots going this next Spring to share cuttings with any members who desire this variety - Nice jagged long leaves & all leads pointing to Black Mission so far. Danny K. has spot #1, and quantity available will be based on new growth. It'd be nice to have some experienced growers see what fruit quality they can get out of this variation.
A fella once told me "The Black Mission is the Sweetest of the Figs" in his opinion of course! Where I live you can pick up a 5-gal Black Mission at Home Depot or Lowes no problem, but if you're 'off the map' somewhere or have interest for any reason, please PM! Wow, already planning for Spring - Gotta get through the Holiday season and such first!
Happy Figging!
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I would cut it in half, about an inch above a node. You can then take the top half and cut that into 8" pieces and root them. Or you could air layer the plant halfway down and end up with 2 plants. Either way, no need to waste the top half. Cuttings or air layer. I have a Genoa from Belleclare Nursery. Not similar at all.
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Half sounds good.
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Some Black Mission have unique leaf patterns like Jon mentioned.  Some also have red tips.  This is clearly visble when dormant.  I have some with red tips and one or 2 without.  Those with red tips have better taste IMHO. 
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do the air layer, should work well
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Oh FUN IDEA! I didn't think I could air layer until Spring but let's do this!!!
So shall it be baggy air-layer or plastic bottle? Seen a few different and interesting ways to do this. . .
Thanks for the advice :)
And Dennis, the "pink tips" you speak of would be the new little buds coming along, if at all, no?
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I think air layering that tree will be tricky given the height and thickness of the trunk and the time of year for you. But good luck.
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Yes, but the buds will be red, not pink.
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Trust me be happy its not a Genoa they split very bad Black Mission a way better fig.
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Pink = Black Mission? Then it's settled - *Bingo*Bango*Bongo* BLACK MISSION! And I'm very happy the pinky ones are preferable.
In further news: I am blind as a bat! :) Did not notice the pink tinge this BM has compared to my others
THANK YOU ALL tremendously for all the help - oh and maybe I will wait on that air layer until Springtime
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