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Propagation Confusion

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Originally Posted by TorontoJoe
Hi. Sorry for the delayed response. I've been out of town. I have all the cuttings in soil now but frankly I'm a bit nervous. Where are you located?


I am in Bridgeport, Connecticut, USA
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Originally Posted by Sas
Hi Joe, A Caprifig is a male fig that contains pollen necessary for pollination of Smyrna type figs, via wasp, otherwise those figs will never ripen their fruit. If you grow too many fig trees of any kind indoors in a non ventilated room when they grow leaves, and will eventually start to emit a bad and probably unhealthy smell. Don't know if you ever heard about keeping certain plants in a bedroom might be unhealthy. My theory is that fig is one of those plants. I've had certain varieties that took over 90 days before I saw active growth. Some could push out leaves almost within three weeks, but it does not mean that you're out of the woods as there might be a chance that the roots are not fully developped. This is one of the reasons I don't like to disturb the roots and repot a plant too early.


Thanks Sas. I don't believe there is any fig wasp that exists as far north as I am. I'm glad you mentioned the 90 days. I came home from work today to a nice surprise. This is the first of the cuttings to show a sign of life:

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Even a few of my olives are showing life now. Very exciting...Sadly they'll never see the outdoors here...

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There you go Joe, signs of life.
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Originally Posted by evladi7654


I am in Bridgeport, Connecticut, USA


Send me a private message with your address and I'll send you a couple of cuttings.
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:) 
very happy to see more and more Toronto fig fans here.
Hi, (tinyfish) Tony and Joe, I am James from Vaughan. 
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Originally Posted by TorontoJoe


Thanks Sas. I don't believe there is any fig wasp that exists as far north as I am. I'm glad you mentioned the 90 days. I came home from work today to a nice surprise. This is the first of the cuttings to show a sign of life:

fig-full-small.jpg  fig-closel.jpg 

Even a few of my olives are showing life now. Very exciting...Sadly they'll never see the outdoors here...

olive-full.jpg 

olive-close.jpg 






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I wouldn't even talk about figs' fly if you are not in California or Florida. Secondly, something tells me that you overwatered your Fig Cuttings ! Water is the worst Enemy when propagating Fig cuttings ! ......
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Originally Posted by evladi7654
I wouldn't even talk about figs' fly if you are not in California or Florida. Secondly, something tells me that you overwatered your Fig Cuttings ! Water is the worst Enemy when propagating Fig cuttings ! ......


This is what I'm hearing. All my cuttings are now in a very light peat moss and perlite based mix. I'm going with the wisdom on this forum...I have to say though that my father for years propagated his cuttings in just water. They would always root out and he'd plant them successfully. He did it in the same way this guys does: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SyBvxDKkA5k

I'm doing my best to resist the urge to water....I just not at the stage where I trust myself to tell between what is damp enough but not too wet. I tried a moisture meter a while back but it was a piece of junk. It read that the soil was bone dry when it was clear it was soaking.
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:) 
very happy to see more and more Toronto fig fans here.
Hi, (tinyfish) Tony and Joe, I am James from Vaughan. 



Hi James. I'm right down on the lake in Toronto.... Guildwood Village.
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This is what I'm hearing. All my cuttings are now in a very light peat moss and perlite based mix. I'm going with the wisdom on this forum...I have to say though that my father for years propagated his cuttings in just water. They would always root out and he'd plant them successfully. He did it in the same way this guys does: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SyBvxDKkA5k

I'm doing my best to resist the urge to water....I just not at the stage where I trust myself to tell between what is damp enough but not too wet. I tried a moisture meter a while back but it was a piece of junk. It read that the soil was bone dry when it was clear it was soaking.


There is always risk that the Cutting will not take ! Even if you plate it with Gold ! Right now I have some Cuttings from Spain. I planted them in the same soil each ,in separate pots under the same conditions. One Cutting is already have good leaves and side Branch, roots and its practically is ready for transplanting into a bigger pot or simply let it keep growing till next year. Another Cutting is sitting in the pot ,looking alive but no any hint of growing anything...buds, leaves or whatever. Another Cutting has a very small leaf starting to grow but it is the same size (very small ) already for 2 months ! and other 2 Cuttings have nothing which can tell me that they will grow in the future. This is a good example..all Cuttings came from the same tree, the same Branch , the same time of the year. They were planted into the same soil with the same ''humidity, the same care and the same light etc ! You can never tell if the Cutting will grow successfully ! You can only use your and your ''colleague's experience, knowledge from different sources and your own . Most of the times you will be a Success !! But don't be disappointed if you fail once in a while ! This is mother nature and this is life ! No warranties ! Good luck !
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Originally Posted by evladi7654


There is always risk that the Cutting will not take ! Even if you plate it with Gold ! Right now I have some Cuttings from Spain. I planted them in the same soil each ,in separate pots under the same conditions. One Cutting is already have good leaves and side Branch, roots and its practically is ready for transplanting into a bigger pot or simply let it keep growing till next year. Another Cutting is sitting in the pot ,looking alive but no any hint of growing anything...buds, leaves or whatever. Another Cutting has a very small leaf starting to grow but it is the same size (very small ) already for 2 months ! and other 2 Cuttings have nothing which can tell me that they will grow in the future. This is a good example..all Cuttings came from the same tree, the same Branch , the same time of the year. They were planted into the same soil with the same ''humidity, the same care and the same light etc ! You can never tell if the Cutting will grow successfully ! You can only use your and your ''colleague's experience, knowledge from different sources and your own . Most of the times you will be a Success !! But don't be disappointed if you fail once in a while ! This is mother nature and this is life ! No warranties ! Good luck !


Fickle little trees....
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:) 
very happy to see more and more Toronto fig fans here.
Hi, (tinyfish) Tony and Joe, I am James from Vaughan. 



Hey James I'm not too far I'm in Nobleton.

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Hey James I'm not too far I'm in Nobleton.


:) indeed not far, you are from the King township.

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Originally Posted by TorontoJoe


Hi James. I'm right down on the lake in Toronto.... Guildwood Village.


I went to Guildwood Park a few times this year. Even you guys have Guildwood Day each year. :)
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Originally Posted by torontofig


:) indeed not far, you are from the King township.



I went to Guildwood Park a few times this year. Even you guys have Guildwood Day each year. :)




100% correct.

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100% correct.


Exactly the place. Being in an isolated bowl right on the lake - we have a little micro climate that keeps things a little warmer in winter....not to mention some odd wildlife for inside Toronto. I had whitetail deer on my front step last winter. My neighbours are claiming sitings of wild turkey.
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Originally Posted by tinyfish
100% correct.


King is the most expensive of GTA.
indeed beautiful area. 




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Originally Posted by TorontoJoe
Exactly the place. Being in an isolated bowl right on the lake - we have a little micro climate that keeps things a little warmer in winter....not to mention some odd wildlife for inside Toronto. I had whitetail deer on my front step last winter. My neighbours are claiming sitings of wild turkey.


Staying at Guildwood is like living at a cottage, but still in the city.
very peaceful :) what surprised me is the convenience store guy (on the corner of  poplar road) seems to know everyone who bought from the store.
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Well look at this! I looked under the cups today. About 1/3 of all my cuttings are showing roots like this.

Should I hang on for a while until there are lots of roots before re-potting?

Also - I'm guessing for this first winter these just stay in the Window? I assume they shouldn't go outside until next year when they'd lose their leaves and go dormant?
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The picture never came through. I guess it just take time for the roots to get going.
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That teaches me to try and do it from my phone. Here it is...What do you think?

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There we go. Still lots of room for the roots to grow. Off to a good start.
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A few are visible from the sides as well.

A question - My potted figs I bring into the garage for the winter. With these ones just rooting now - for the first year, do I just keep them growing in the window until next spring when it's safe to bring them outside? I'm guessing I shouldn't bring them outside to go dormant until they're established....
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very nice! olive too, wow!
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Absolutely! 4 of the 10 olives I started are showing leaves. Can't see roots on them though. It doesn't surprise me. They're such a slow growing tree. Back on the grove where I got them there we trees that were 20 years old and about as tall as me. Of course the fig trees were as tall as the house!
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Here are the olives now

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For water-rooting, covering the cup/jar in tin foil helps a lot - also seems to slow growth of mold.
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