Raspberry Latte Climate

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GeorgiaFig

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Posted 1274323379	Reply with quote #1

Does anybody know how cold hardy a Raspberry Latte Fig is? Sorry to bother everybody with this but I couldn't find information on this and hoped someone here might know. We are in zone 7b so would the Raspberry Latte survive in ground like our other figs or should we try a pot? We got three scions from Encanto Farms and all three are growing like weeds already. Is this vigorous leaf growth a decent indicator of root growth too? They have been leafed out for a good month now and are going strong. Thanks friends, and best wishes to all.

nas33

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Posted 1274324699	Reply with quote #2

I find that when a cutting has secondary growth off of the scion, ie second branch, or if it has a second flush of leaves on single branch, you are probably doing ok down below. However, you can have lots of leaf and no roots, or lots of roots and not one leaf. I have both happening this year. Fico Nero BC-healthy roots, no leaf. St. Jerome, 3 branches, no roots. I would ask Jon about the Raspberry Latte. Im thinking it will probably do better in a container (that is what I plan to do with it). However, I grow everything in a container. And yes, I have found it very vigorous. good luck __________________ Nas 6a

GeorgiaFig

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Posted 1274325540	Reply with quote #3

Thank you for the quick reply my friend. This is very helpful. I am rooting these in good quality potting soil outside and so far I am getting very good results. But since I can't see the roots, I was getting nervous even though the tops look great. Your comments were very helpful and greatly appreciated. Hope you have great success and a great season this year. Best wishes. John Georgia Piedmont Zone 7b

OttawanZ5

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Posted 1274325564	Reply with quote #4

Georgiafig If it has leafed out a month go and has a lot of leaves as you mentioned then there is high probability that there are roots because that many roots for so long cannot be sustained from cutting reserves only. So, yes this vigorous leaf growth a decent indicator of root growth. __________________ Ottawan-Z5a, Canada

GeorgiaFig

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Posted 1274325993	Reply with quote #5

I am breathing a big sigh of relief! They look so good, it would be heartbreaking to lose them now. But I have been an organic gardener and orchardist for over 20 years now, so I know that nothing is ever certain, and it's always do your best and take your chances. We are relatively new to figs though, but really enjoying this new and rewarding hobby. I greatly appreciate the advice and quick reply my friend, and hope you will have a great season and continued success. Best wishes. John Georgia Piedmont Zone 7b

Dieseler

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Posted 1274327985	Reply with quote #6

Hi John, R.Latte was originally a seedling growing on Jons property i might add a wonderful name the plant has , he lives in California as he often refers to as paradise ! I had a few peter out (nothing against anyone named Peter) on me and now have one potted up with roots in a gallon pot and another in cup not showing roots yet. Course not all scion even from same plant as it been said will react the same. Anyways if mine makes it it will be fun to compare what the leaves and fruit look like in our different climates one day. Best Health

pitangadiego

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Posted 1274330691	Reply with quote #7

RL has hardiness demonstrated to 38F. Very vigorous grower. Original plant is 3" or more in diameter after 3-1/2 years growth and has branches nearly 20' in the air. Therre are two leaf forms on the same plant, single lobe and 5 lobe. __________________ Encanto Farms Nursery http://encantofarms.com http://figs4fun.com http://webebananas.com "pitangadiego" everywhere

GeorgiaFig

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Posted 1274363753	Reply with quote #8

Thank you Martin and Jon. I will keep you posted on the progress here in the North Georgia Piemont. All three of the RL scions look great and seem to be really digging in for a solid start. We get down to the teens here in the winter though, so I will definately try a pot for one RL, but maybe be bold and test another one in ground in a protected area with covering, and the third just in ground. RL could prove to be a lot tougher than currently known, and even if not, there's still the one in the pot in the garage! ;-) Thank you friends. Best wishes for good health and a great growing season. John Georgia Piedmont Zone 7b

gorgi

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Posted 1274373058	Reply with quote #9

Oh yes! Raspberry Latte is a very good rooter indeed, I just have one (thanks Jon) with roots going out at the bottom foam cup (drain holes) up to the gazoo! Pictures show it as a fabulous fig [fruit]. Now the big question; will it perform good here up-north (aka. does it need the fig wasp?). My understanding it that it was "chance" fig-seedling on Jon's CA fig-heaven property... [E1:] As for hardiness, I have come to a solid conclusion that more-or-less (mostly more) , ALL figs are the same hardy. Beyond (colder) USDA zone 8, it depends very much how they are winter-protected. [E2:] Also in genreral, SMALL (sized) figs seem to perform much better here in cold/short-season up-north... __________________ George, NJ_z7a.

GeorgiaFig

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Posted 1274375606	Reply with quote #10

RL is definately a winner as a rooter, and otherwise shows great promise, but if we need that wasp, I'm guessing they are going to have a heck of a time finding my yard from where they are now! ;-) Best wishes Gorgi John Georgia Piedmont Zone 7b

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Posted 1274379380	Reply with quote #11

Every indication is that RL is a common fig, NOT a Smyrna type. __________________ Encanto Farms Nursery http://encantofarms.com http://figs4fun.com http://webebananas.com "pitangadiego" everywhere

GeorgiaFig

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Posted 1274383188	Reply with quote #12

Thank you very much. I greatly appreciate your sharing this helpful information. We can't wait to try the RL figs, and flying those little guys in from out of state would have been pretty expensive! ;-) I greatly appreciate all the information, the terrific fig scions, and the wonderful forum here. Best wishes to all.

GeorgiaFig

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Posted 1300808029	Reply with quote #13

UPDATE: March 2011 The RL trees grew to nearly 3 feet last summer, even with taking off the tips to encourage side branching. They also made it through what was a very cold and snowy winter by North Georgia Piedmont standards. We got about a foot of snow in total, and temperatures were down in the teens often. I covered all the new figs with a light layer of straw, but otherwise they were in ground with no other protection. Nonetheless, I just uncovered the figs Sunday, and the RL is green on the wood except for the highest tips. This seems to be good evidence that RL is hardy here in Zone 7b and has a good future. p.s. I started this thread almost a year ago when I was very new to growing figs. I have learned a lot since then (thanks to everyone here), but mostly what I have learned is that there is still a lot to learn!

nypd5229

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Posted 1300809115	Reply with quote #14

I'm up here in MA and rooting RL right now. I'm curious like yourself to see how cold hardy it may be. It is a vigorous rooter and already 2 of 4 have roots wrapping around and shooting three inches out of the top of the cup. Started in water for 10 days and then put in cups. Had roots almost immediately. My gut tells me that it would survive up here in-ground based on its vigorous growth pattern. May lose breba crop but the main would come back fast. ______________ Dominick Zone 6a-MA By the way did you get a main crop to show? __________________ Dominick Zone 6a-MA

nelson20vt

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Posted 1300811508	Reply with quote #15

My Raspberry Latte seen -12 celcius in the garage as did all my other plants seems perfectly fine noticed the buds were starting to swell and looked nice and red no signs of damage. __________________ Mississauga, ON, Canada Z5B/6A

OttawanZ5

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Posted 1300815830	Reply with quote #16

Nelson Procrastination in fall made me leave half of my plants in garage (some last year rooted). I had a heater on and did not water during the winter (& will water now). The stems seem alive but a bit dehydrated. They will be slow to green up and some of the cuttings I promised may not be plump wither. __________________ Ottawan-Z5a, Canada

saxonfig

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Posted 1300816358	Reply with quote #17

I have one RL that made through the fumblings of my first year of rooting cuttings last season. It has one branch only about 1 1/2" long with another about 5". It's beginning to leaf out now and is looking good so far. I'm going to give it the royal treatment with hopes of it putting on some good growth this season. It will be nice to compare notes on how it does in our various climates. If Jon's parent tree & the vigor some of you have observed is any indictor, it should do well in our hot summers here in W KY. __________________ Fig Well And Prosper! Bill - SW KY. Zone 6b. 36.5N I'm fruitnut on ebay.

GeorgiaFig

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Posted 1300816871	Reply with quote #18

Hi Dominick. The only cuttings that had any figlets in their first season that I recall late last summer was the Hardy Chicago. But they came far too late and the plants were still too young to support fruit. I will bet the new CHs and RLs will both have a few main crop figs this year though. With some winter protection, the RL looks like it might do well many places. Best wishes to all. John North Georgia Piedmont Zone 7b

gm421

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Posted 1300833396	Reply with quote #19

Hello, Can anyone on the eastern half of the us actually describe the taste and growth of fruit or is this just a new fig,because the pics make my mouth water Geo

GeorgiaFig

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Posted 1300833843	Reply with quote #20

Hi Geo. It does look like a fantastic fig, but so far, I've just got about a three foot one year old tree. No figs yet. Jon can tell you though. As I recall, he found it growing under a coffee tree there in Southern California. And it must be good, or he would not have propogated it, as he has many to choose from so he can only choose the best for propogation. So far, I am very happy to see that it is surviving and thriving here in Zone 7b, in ground. Best wishes. John

pitangadiego

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Posted 1300839226	Reply with quote #21

Geo I doubt that anyone other the me has tasted it. The original tree is only 4 years old, and I doubt anyone else has one that has fruited, even though it is a fast, vigorous grower, and fruited in its second season, here. It is still being evaluated, here, and will probably have some more data in another year or two. It does taste as good as it looks. It does have a large eye, and some fruits are irregularly shaped. So, it is still experimental, but the taste makes further dissemination and trial worth doing. As a comparison, citrus crosses done in the early 50s have only come to market in the past 5-10 years, after half a century of testing. I don't expect to live long enough to see what this plant does after 50 years. __________________ Encanto Farms Nursery http://encantofarms.com http://figs4fun.com http://webebananas.com "pitangadiego" everywhere

satellitehead

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Posted 1300839500	Reply with quote #22

I have one .... but it's going on its second year in a 2gal pot. I can only hope for a fig or two later this year. __________________ Jason Atlanta/Grant Park area - z8

gm421

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Posted 1300840683	Reply with quote #23

Thanks all for the input, I look foward to watching my 2 two year olds grow and hopefully eat this delicious looking fig,you guys are all great. thank you

satellitehead

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Posted 1300848534	Reply with quote #24

Hey Jon, what is the "FU" accession? "Found Under"? __________________ Jason Atlanta/Grant Park area - z8

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"Fixated upon" __________________ Encanto Farms Nursery http://encantofarms.com http://figs4fun.com http://webebananas.com "pitangadiego" everywhere

satellitehead

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Posted 1300879562	Reply with quote #26

Seriously? __________________ Jason Atlanta/Grant Park area - z8

jsvand5

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Posted 1300895922	Reply with quote #27

I have a one year old tree in ground. I had about 7 days this season in the low to mid 20's and plenty of freezing nights. The Rasp latte survived with no protection and no damage. __________________ John FL Z9

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Posted 1300942885	Reply with quote #28

"FU" refers to a small collection of in-ground trees here at the nursery. __________________ Encanto Farms Nursery http://encantofarms.com http://figs4fun.com http://webebananas.com "pitangadiego" everywhere

satellitehead

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Posted 1300988625	Reply with quote #29

Quote: Originally Posted by pitangadiego "Fixated upon" Derivitave of "Enchanted"? Quote: Originally Posted by pitangadiego "FU" refers to a small collection of in-ground trees here at the nursery. Internet memes have ruined everything for me. I see these letters and instantly think .... __________________ Jason Atlanta/Grant Park area - z8

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Posted 1300990068	Reply with quote #30

HAHAHA............Now thats FUNNY, I don't care who ya are... __________________ Cecil (Z 8b?) in the sticks of E.Tx (Elkhart/Palestine TX)

fascist_nation

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Posted 1326312317	Reply with quote #31

Here in Phoenix, Arizona, I have four figs in #2 containers: Black Mission, Negronne, Violette de Bordeaux (aka Negronne) and a Raspberry Latte (RL). All were kept under frost cloth to protect them from the few nights we got frost. All but the RL lost their leaves in December...essentially because it is time for them to lose their leaves. The RL just keeps plugging along fully leafed. I have no idea what that means to its cold or hot hardiness ratings, but it is an interesting observation at least to me. Unfortunately, for the RL along with the Negronnes, I will be giving them away tomorrow as I didn't realize the need for small ("closed") eyes varieties in Phoenix until I acquired them. They sure look tasty however. Thanks for letting me know the eye size---it's Google search is how I came across this thread. __________________ Freedom's the Answer! What's the Question?

snaglpus

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Posted 1326325081	Reply with quote #32

Georgiafig, I think RL is just as hardy as brown turkey. I have one that I rooted from Jon, 2 yrs ago. I have it growing in a huge pot today but will be planting it in my orchard this Spring. No figs yet, but a progressive grower! In November of 2011 it got down to 19 degrees for 2 days and it did not phase my tree. So, I think this tree is pretty hardy. I am expecting figs this year. More too come later this year. __________________ Dennis Charlotte, North Carolina/Zone 8a

Fatnsassytexan

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Posted 1326326830	Reply with quote #33

Hi all, I have two(2 yr.'s old) in the ground(6-7') here that survived several days of 18F last winter without damage. They are indeed easy rooters and fast growing. If I remember right , I had a couple immature figs late last fall that didn't ripen. This fall it has about 6 figs late(same fate). Maybe this year---I'm hoping it will start fruiting earlier. I might try pinching to see if it helps __________________ Tim Southeast Texas Zone 9 Wish List:Noire de Caromb, Maltese Beauty,Socorro Black, Others especially tight eyed varieties.

pduitsman

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Posted 1439306550	Reply with quote #34

Raspberry Latte in south central Texas. Went out this morning to a pleasant surprise with the first of them showing color. Second year tree. Attached Images Raspberry_Latte_8-15_1.jpg (158.07 KB, 72 views) Raspberry_Latte_8-15_2.jpg (107.77 KB, 66 views) Raspberry_Latte_8-15_3.jpg (140.34 KB, 52 views) Raspberry_Latte_8-15_4.jpg (187.94 KB, 59 views) Raspberry_Latte_8-15_5.jpg (190.16 KB, 53 views)

tylerj

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Posted 1439310920	Reply with quote #35

Looks good Penelope! It looks like I have to wait until next year to see some hopefully on mine... btw... is that hot pepper plant in your pot there by design?? Tyler __________________ London, Ontario zone 6a Wish List: Martinenca Rimada, Genovese Nero AF, Galicia Negra, Brooklyn White

Jerry_M

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Posted 1439313082 · Edited	Reply with quote #36

This morning I moved one of my two RLs to a three gal pot from a quart pot. Hopefully, next year it will give me some figs like yours Penelope. What you have are awesume. __________________ Jerry Canyon Lake, TX 8b Wanted: Cajun Gold, Louisiana Honey, Schar Israel-114 grams

pduitsman

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Posted 1439313989	Reply with quote #37

Quote: Originally Posted by tylerj Looks good Penelope! It looks like I have to wait until next year to see some hopefully on mine... btw... is that hot pepper plant in your pot there by design?? Tyler Yes, I have peppers with a lot of the figs. Love different peppers almost as much as the figs.

pduitsman

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Posted 1439314302	Reply with quote #38

Quote: Originally Posted by Jerry_M This morning I moved one of my two RLs to a three gal pot from a quart pot. Hopefully, next year it will give me some figs like yours Penelope. What you have are awesume. Got mine as a small plant from Ebay last fall. Overwintered it here and it has grown like a weed since. Love the strong growers, they can outgrow the rust. Most of the LSU varieties are doing very good as well. Picked several LSU Gold. Very sweet.

Quackmaster

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Posted 1439314303	Reply with quote #39

Man my raspberry latte was a rooted cutting last season and it went in ground and exploded with growth, it is my only tree that is continuously growing, it only put out 4 figs this season so I'm hoping it becomes more productive. As of now it is about 6' tall and 6' wide. __________________ Ryan Zone 9a SeLa, wish list:

DevIsgro

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Posted 1477860662	Reply with quote #40

I have heard the taste of RL in high heat is divine. __________________ Currently growing 50-60 varieties, this season's cuttings dependant. Hopefully I'll get to taste a few more this year...

Figgysid1

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Posted 1477867051 · Edited	Reply with quote #41

I have two 1 year old Raspberry Latte in 25 gal pots, they grow like weeds. One grew to quick and snapped at 6 inches from 6ft tall. Three months later its back up to 6ft, but with all spade leaves. Seems to be fairly rust resistant. It's now covered with figs, which are starting to change color. Only one is a deformed/double fig. The rest all look very attractive. They have a squat flat bottom with a tight eye. Very easy to root. The leaves look very similar to Violet De Bordeaux. I wonder if this is a Vista Mission seedling. __________________ (Zone 12a) Big Island, Hawaii, 2,400 ft elevation, Fern Forest. Avg. July High 77,Avg.Jan.Low 56 Precipitation days 290, annual rainfall 201.80 inches.

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