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Root now or induce dormancy in fridge?

Hello everyone, I am new to the forum, mostly lurker until now, as this was my first year collecting figs. Yesterday I asked and got a branch from a tree in our city, the owner didn't remember the name of the variety, it has medium large brown fruit. The branch is this year's growth, partly lignified, the tip is green. Should I root it now or should I put the cuttings in a zip loc bag in the fridge and try to induce dormancy, then attempt rooting in december or later? I will post pictures of the leaf and cuttings in another comment. Thanks, G.

You could do either. It depends on your setup and whether you can care for an actively growing fig all winter. It would be easiest to put it in the fridge and root later. That means less time to baby it inside. But there is risk of the cutting drying out or getting moldy in the fridge.

Your best chance of getting a plant would be to root it now and baby it thru winter.

Easiest of all would be to get another cutting in late winter or early spring. But if your area suffers winter injury there might not be good cuttings come March.

Thanks Steve,
I work from home and the shelf I have for cuttings and seedlings is in my 'office' room right behind me, so i can check, water and move them daily if needed. The shelf is in front of a window that gets sunlight in the morning, from sunrise until noon. I am not sure whether they will need extra light or heating.
I potted the cuttings into clear plastic cups as described elsewhere on the forum.
The medium is a mix of coconut coir, pumice and regular potting soil, not packed. I don't have easy access to perlite so I use what I have.
Will post pictures soon.

I am having good luck right now, rooting partly lignified cuttings, with the top wrapped in Saran Wrap  , and stuck into moist Pro MixHP.

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Are u able to take care of your bady rooted cuttings during winter? if you have a warm heated house 15C/63F up and nice sunny window sill, you might be able to do it.

My house is not heated, and Next door house block sun light to my windows, because of this, I put my cuttings in fridge, I find that rooting cuttings at spring time are easy for me then I pot them up and leave them outdoor.

I do not have good results in rooting cuttings with perlite Due to mold problem, But good reusults with Promix HP, and Coconut coir work the best for me, I think that Coconut coir is quick acidity which reducing mold but cuttings do not mind.

Here are the pictures as promised. I hope someone could also help me identify the variety.
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Branch as received. It spent a night in a bucket of water

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Leaf size and pattern next to my hand. These are pretty large leaves compared to my other figs.

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Leaf pattern 1

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Leaf pattern 2

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Cuttings, 3-4 nodes each

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Cut off leaves, planted into mix and covered. Melted holes into cups with soldering iron.

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Winter storage in front of the window.

Also visible my seedling experiment with what were supposedly Panache seeds from Ebay.

Thanks for looking.

This is the effect of the window glass heating up in the sun. I guess this is good?
Thanks
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humidity dome of some type will be needed ,whether another cup upside down on it or a few sticks taller than the cutting placed in cup and a plastic bag slipped over and gumbanned around cup to seal ,or sometimes i use a huge ziplock bag they work great good seal ,and light is not nessesary ,dark is better until rooted and heat helps,i put mine on top of frig,freezer,or hotwater tank,i have great success,i use long green moss and rooting bins(like plastic shoe box size with lids,

For future project try to remove leaves as soon as possible if they are on when you take the cutting! They suck moisture out of the wood trying to sustain themselves. I start mine in zip locks with the bases wrapped in paper towels, controlling humidity by controlling bag opening. I have even had good luck with partially green ones. Good luck with your project!

Thank you Devin for chiming in, next time I will cut off the leaves as soon as I get home. I will keep this topic updated throughout the winter with photos as time allows. I still have to produce a tasty fig to convince my wife that this new hobby is worth the effort :) Maybe next year..

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Thank you Devin for chiming in, next time I will cut off the leaves as soon as I get home. I will keep this topic updated throughout the winter with photos as time allows. I still have to produce a tasty fig to convince my wife that this new hobby is worth the effort :) Maybe next year..[/QUOTE

You're welcome! Gotta warn you, your hobby will expand and even even after tasting figs my wife isn't convinced lol. She allows it now though, so that's process haha

I've been reading the posts, because I am in the same dilemma. I live in Connecticut and the season is basically over. I've purchased some cuttings. I have a grow room in the basement. Im wondering figs do well under lights? All the information in this post is very helpful. Thanks!

Hi Steve, thanks for stopping by.

I ordered a cheap heat pad from China to put under the cuttings and full spectrum LED bulbs for the winter season.

This is the heat pad
http://www.banggood.com/7W-Adjustable-Temperature-Reptile-Heating-Heater-p-915262.html

And the bulbs for my EU sockets
http://www.banggood.com/10W-Full-Spectrum-SMD5730-LED-Grow-Bulb-Greenhouse-Hydroponics-Plant-Seedling-Lamp-p-1051507.html

I found some mold on 3 of the 5 cuttings so I had to remove the cups to aerate. It is probably because of the rooting media I used. I tried putting another transparent bucket over the cuttings to give them more air but that didn't help, got fresh mold overnight. I am waiting for the heat pad to arrive and hopefully help with mold. Until then, I added a lamp with a halogen bulb to provide some heat.

I also have a bunch of seedlings and cuttings rooted over this summer that are too small to go into dormancy, they will benefit from the grow lights.

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Originally Posted by pverdes3
Hi Steve, thanks for stopping by.

I ordered a cheap heat pad from China to put under the cuttings and full spectrum LED bulbs for the winter season.

This is the heat pad
http://www.banggood.com/7W-Adjustable-Temperature-Reptile-Heating-Heater-p-915262.html

And the bulbs for my EU sockets
http://www.banggood.com/10W-Full-Spectrum-SMD5730-LED-Grow-Bulb-Greenhouse-Hydroponics-Plant-Seedling-Lamp-p-1051507.html

I found some mold on 3 of the 5 cuttings so I had to remove the cups to aerate. It is probably because of the rooting media I used. I tried putting another transparent bucket over the cuttings to give them more air but that didn't help, got fresh mold overnight. I am waiting for the heat pad to arrive and hopefully help with mold. Until then, I added a lamp with a halogen bulb to provide some heat.

I also have a bunch of seedlings and cuttings rooted over this summer that are too small to go into dormancy, they will benefit from the grow lights.
Thanks for getting back to me Pverdes3. Thanks for the links, I'm looking into heat pads. Thanks again!

First version with added heat was this one, with two plastic buckets.

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Then when I turned off the lights for the night and checked in the morning, they had mold from the low temp and humid environment. Worst was the short cutting with the terminal bud on the original branch.

So I removed the top and now this is how I am trying to root them. The 5th cutting is in a separate location, close to the exhause fan on my PC.

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Have some buds swelling, hopefully they will put out some roots into the mix.

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Pics are from yesterday.

used to root year around. problem during the winter is moisture control. most houses in US at lease is rather dry. if you cover the young plant, they will mold soon. if you leave them out, they will dry and die. so it's balance act on how much to air and how much to keep the cover on. one think i tried was once the root is well established, i would move the young plant to the attached garage next to the wall that takes the sun. i had rather good luck with that. it's mild winter down here. 

Hi,
I'd leave them in the fridge and root in March or April. Or better acquire cuttings in March.

Last year this time of the year, I had small rooted airlayers - they all had some roots, but still were not trees.
I left some in the tomato-greenhouse and some came home near the lamp of one of my fish-tanks.
The ones at home rotted due to humidity and lack of light (I suppose).
The ones in the greenhouse, stayed there the whole winter and woke up in Spring just like they were trees.
Of course, the ones I wanted to save most were the ones I had taken home.
So this year, I have some 6 young airlayers, and those young will go to (or already are in) the greenhouse and they better swim !!!

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Thanks for getting back to me Pverdes3. Thanks for the links, I'm looking into heat pads. Thanks again!


Woodville, just found this on ebay supposedly made for seeds and germination, I guess it's waterproof and also bigger than the one I ordered. You may want to take a look.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/262456161244

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That's a good price for a heat mat.

Gabriel,I think you and me have the same dilemma.I have cuttings from Giorgi Goshev in Bulgaria,Ali Pasha plants.I had to root them so they will be inside all winter.You are on the right track I think from what folks are saying here,,controlled humidity,light and heat are what I found really counts when I have done this with other plants,I guess same applies to figs from what folks have said,also a clean potting media is a great help.I use a humidity box(big clear plastic tub!) up against my radiator in my back room at an angle so moisture drains and doesn't sit under the cups.Results have been positive so far.Ive already had a few of my unknowns graduate to pots and the windowsill after bringing them in from my unheated greenhouse and having them in the humidity box for a week or so,they loved jt.

.I haven't had any problems with mould,I put that down to spraying the cuttings with detol to kill anything and then washing it off and potting them I'm 100% soil-less mix,about 50/50 washed coco coir to perlite( just rough) as I wanted it to drain really well.

I have been looking for a heat mat,I have 'saved' the one you used as it's exactly what I was looking for.I have notoced a trend that light(and top heat)+humidity =leaves, bottom heat+ humidity= roots, so I'm guessing a happy medium between bottom heat,good lights,humidity would be just right.At the moment mine seem to want to leaf before rooting so I will get a heat mat I think which might help.

Important not to keep them too wet,wet+cold= rot=dead.Some of my cuttings in the greenhouse are too cold now so they are rotting.

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Woodville, just found this on ebay supposedly made for seeds and germination, I guess it's waterproof and also bigger than the one I ordered. You may want to take a look.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/262456161244

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that is a good price pverdes3, greattach find.

The grow light bulbs arrived, I installed one of them into an old IKEA desk lamp and placed it above the seedlings and smaller cuttings I rooted over summer.

The bulbs are rated 10W but I suspect they are a lot weaker maybe 5W, hopefully the window and the grow lights will be OK for them to survive the winter.

I am still waiting for the heat mat to arrive, then the lamp on the right will also become a grow light for another shelf and the cuttings go onto the mat.

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All the lights are connected to an IKEA TANDA mechanical timer set to about 16 hours.
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Originally Posted by pverdes3
The grow light bulbs arrived, I installed one of them into an old IKEA desk lamp and placed it above the seedlings and smaller cuttings I rooted over summer.

The bulbs are rated 10W but I suspect they are a lot weaker maybe 5W, hopefully the window and the grow lights will be OK for them to survive the winter.

I am still waiting for the heat mat to arrive, then the lamp on the right will also become a grow light for another shelf and the cuttings go onto the mat.

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All the lights are connected to an IKEA TANDA mechanical timer set to about 16 hours.
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Nice, do fig cuttings do well with
L E D's? I purchased a heat mat from amazon, works great.

Woodville, these grow lights supposedly provide all wavelengths for growth, including uv and infrared. I chose LEDs because of their low consumption, i know there are massive hydroponic systems with HID lights but those produce a lot more heat and require planning and complete ventilation. I just want my seedlings and rooted cuttings to survive winter indoors. The cuttings don't know they have an LED above them, but they get extra light during short and often overcast winter days.

Success.. one of the unknown cuttings just pushed some roots to the side of the plastic cup. This was the only one not resting below the lamp that provides heat.

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